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Title: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: pslim337 on May 14, 2013, 06:44:17 PM
ok got some glass from mark clap they fit fine to day my car was coverd out side an i lefted the cover the heat bulked the glass i need real glass !!!!!
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: No Bull on May 14, 2013, 07:29:01 PM
Isn't it time we did a group deal on some G28 glass? 

There was talk before about minimum orders in the past to have this done.  Since the glass is different for the coupe and roadster it will be interesting to see if we can drum up enough interest for both and if there is a discount if we coordinated orders for both at the same time.

I'm in for a roadster set if the price is decent (including shipping) and I think it's only fair that the person organizing this make a little money off each order for their troubles.

Chris
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: pslim337 on May 14, 2013, 07:42:16 PM
Yes man we need to ASAP the glass is slowing me down
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: solrac on May 14, 2013, 08:35:15 PM
If these windows would fit my reventon build I'm in.
I am not familiar at all of the difference on g28 and other models out there.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: pslim337 on May 14, 2013, 08:48:59 PM
im getting on the phone an call autotemp they make custom door glass im going to see whats the deal 
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: am33r on May 14, 2013, 10:28:01 PM
count me in for a set plz. thanks
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: Murci-Me on May 15, 2013, 12:00:44 AM
Wow, here we go again huh? I think people on this forum are trying to build their cars on a shoe-string budget, and dont realize there are just some parts you have to bite the bullet on and pay what it costs. I offered my glass from Autotemp for basically FREE, I wasnt gonna make even 1 cent on the deal, and everyone complained it was to expensive, even after I offered to even crate it for free to save them money.
Yes, someone call Autotemp and see whats up. If you think the price I offered for a set of glass was high, wait till you have to factor in another $1K to be divided among the sets ordered.
You guys are really to much lol.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: am33r on May 15, 2013, 01:32:00 AM
Murci me please run the offer by us again! I wasn't around a build when this took place!

I now have a G28 Roadster what's the deal with True Glass?
Money is not a major factor and I'm going for a plug & play build so retail items make sense. I try to contribute back as I learn & find new short cuts.

Thanks man!
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: pslim337 on May 15, 2013, 06:20:30 AM
Same here I was not around I need the glass I'm willing to pay that's all I'm saying
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: solrac on May 15, 2013, 07:17:24 AM
Am33r and pslim337 are right.. Unlike u I am a fairly new member here.
We wasn't around for those deals before and yes I am trying to save money where I can. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. Power in numbers. We all get what we need at a good price.
No need to make fun of us just cus we r new and didn't know about ure deals before.
I am in no rush of finishing my build. What is important is that I am learning a lot and having a whole lot of fun while building it. As a matter of fact sooner or later I will be getting ure paddle shift set up and engine cover. All in time tho and well of course u still wanna sell to me. Lol. But when good deals come up well its hard to let them past by.  Lol
If I am wrong by saying that well I guess I'll be getting kicked out of this forum. Lol.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: No Bull on May 15, 2013, 11:11:16 AM
This is really simple guys, let's start this off with a quick survey for demand and from that we can determine who is willing to coordinate a group purchase of door glass for the coupe and roadster.  As with the recent group purchase for vents, I would urge anyone willing to do this to make sure they receive a sample or supplier description first so everyone knows exactly what they are paying for.  Second I would expect deposits to be made to the organizer so they are not left holding a bunch of parts and empty promises.  I think it's also really important that we nail down what we are expecting from these windows

 Example: G28, tinted / polarized, tempered, laminated, coupe, roadster, thickness etc.

I don't want to rehash the tempered vs. laminated discussions but rather call this out that a decision must be made and this is how the glass would be made and accepted by everyone buying them. 

I think that the lower part of the glass has to be figured out (what is the best shape for a G28) and  focus on the bottom of the window where the lift usually attaches.  Depending on the type of lift linkage and motor that is used and how the lift attaches to the window might determine how much of the window will stick up in the full down position and there might be a way of improving this by lifting on the side of the window (a molded hole in the glass lined with a rubber gusset) versus lifting up from the bottom.  Just thinking out of the box but is there a way of getting the window down inside the door a little more?

So let's start with agreeing on what we want and determine the demand for the coupes and roadsters.  From that we can look for volunteers willing to manage the project and figure out who the supplier will be and what this is going to cost.

Thanks,

Chris

P.S. - As said before.. I'm in for a reasonably priced roadster set.

Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: am33r on May 15, 2013, 04:25:14 PM
Am33r: need G28-Roadster "Door-Window Glass"
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: Robert on May 15, 2013, 04:46:52 PM
Am33r: need G28-Roadster "Door-Window Glass"
Here is an email from auto temp glass. Have they made door glass for you guys before. I inquired about LP670 glass.

Hello Robert,


The pricing on the side door glass would depend on the size and bend of the parts.  Please send me a template with the exact size and form of the parts you need to the address below and I will quote you the tooling and manufacturing costs.  (We only need one template if the left and right are symmetrically opposite.)



Sorry, we do not manufacture laminated windshields.  We only manufacture tempered parts such as side glass and rear windshields. 


Thank you!
Robb Spratt
CAD Dept. Manager &
Custom Glass Director

 

950 Kent Rd.
Batavia, Ohio 45103
Main Office: (513) 732-6969
Direct: (513) 685-1115
Cell: (513) 403-5193
Fax: (513) 685-1127
www.autotempinc.com (http://www.autotempinc.com)

Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: Robert on May 15, 2013, 04:49:25 PM
Am33r: need G28-Roadster "Door-Window Glass"
Here is a price quote from Lambo stuff. This is for OEM replacement glass for LP640.

Hi Robert,


Below is a price quote for the OEM LP640 Coupe glass.
Shopping Cart as a Price Quote
  Product Description  Item #  List  Stock  Our Price  Qty  Ext Price 
# 1   WINDSHIELD  418845011  $6,485.92  out-of-stock  $6,096.76  1  $6,096.76 
 This is a special order item or we are out of stock.
You may RUSH this item for $984.89 more. 
# 2   RIGHT DOOR WINDOW  418845202A  $1,200.90  out-of-stock  $1,128.85  1  $1,128.85 
 This is a special order item or we are out of stock.
You may RUSH this item for $192.14 more. 
# 3   LEFT DOOR WINDOW  418845201A  $1,200.90  out-of-stock  $1,128.85  1  $1,128.85 
 This is a special order item or we are out of stock.
You may RUSH this item for $192.14 more. 
# 4   REAR WINDOW GLASS  418845491  $1,309.02  out-of-stock  $1,230.48  1  $1,230.48 
 This is a special order item or we are out of stock.
You may RUSH this item for $208.35 more. 
# 5   SIDE WINDOW,RR  418845299  $2,036.63  out-of-stock  $1,914.43  1  $1,914.43 
 This is a special order item or we are out of stock.
You may RUSH this item for $317.49 more. 
# 6   SIDE WINDOW,RR  418845300  $2,036.63  out-of-stock  $1,914.43  1  $1,914.43 
 This is a special order item or we are out of stock.
You may RUSH this item for $317.49 more. 
Print
Subtotal: $13,413.80
Shipping*: deferred *
Total: $13,413.80
Savings: $856.20
This is what you saved by purchasing from BullStuff!

Shipping Estimates
*BullStuff.com's shopping cart estimates shipping based on your subtotal and number of items it is very close, however it may not correctly estimate shipping on small expensive parts and for "out-of-country" orders. This shipping amount is an estimation only. It also does not include any fees or import duties your country may impose. Import fees are neither calculated or billed by us. In the event you are overcharged shipping or if your order requires additional shipping costs you will be notified or refunded at the time of the shipment. You will also be given the option to defer shipping when you checkout.
Special Order Items
** Any item that is out in stock is considered a SPECIAL ORDER ITEM. There are absolutely no refunds on special order items or used parts, after you submit your order to J&J Concepts.

Rush Shipping Option
*** RUSH fee is a fee offered by the factory to increase normal shipping time from a standard stock order of 1-2 weeks to typically 3 days. Shipping times are averages and are always subject to delays from customs. Although rare, customs delays are out of our control. We do not compensate delays that are out of our control.         









Thanks,
Logan


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Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: BigPines on May 15, 2013, 04:53:41 PM
Will OEM glass even fit in a G28? I don't think so. If we are talking OEM spec glass, and depending on the price, I may be tempted.

Why not take Murci-Me up on his offer to get a group buy together for G28 glass? That definitely sounds like the best lead so far.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: pslim337 on May 15, 2013, 06:09:49 PM
one more time murci-me
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: No Bull on May 15, 2013, 06:24:16 PM
I don't think anyone has an issue with Mike (Murci-Me) coordinating this if he decides to take on the project and offer it again.  This still leaves the question if the glass will fit both the coupe and roadster correctly and I'm sure he will want to know how many are seriously interested enough to leave a deposit.

If it's just for the coupes, then there might still be enough interest for a group purchase of G28 coupe glass.  If they don't fit the roadster, then  we still have the option of coordinating a group buy and absorbing the cost of tooling in each window.

Chris
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: pslim337 on May 15, 2013, 06:59:38 PM
ya mike is a good dude his bilding a cluter for me hes a bizzy man  i dont think he has time to offer it again but if he does ooooooo im in  ::salute
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: LamboJayso on May 15, 2013, 07:03:53 PM
Let's see...I have an OEM roadster door glass. & I also have OEM dimension coupe door skins. If anyone decides to go the route of having door glasses made, I can provide a fiberglass template for $200 shipped.

It will have the proper curvature, length, and height. Now, the G28 doors are about 3" shorter. So I'd leave it for the buyer to shorten it accordingly. I'd recommend shortening it along the B-pillar side of the template.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: BigPines on May 15, 2013, 07:54:10 PM
In the following post written in Aug. 30, 2012, Murci-Me offered glass on the cheap:

http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=265.msg3284#msg3284 (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=265.msg3284#msg3284)

The example price was only $246/pair shipped to buyer's door if he could get 10 orders! What a steal! I wonder why people didn't jump on that? It sounds like he doesn't even need a template as he has his own glass.

Are you still willing to do this Murci-Me?

It won't help me as I need OEM glass but that price is so cheap, I may be tempted to pick up a set anyway just in case I change my plans.

Mike
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: pslim337 on May 15, 2013, 08:17:04 PM
i tell u what for 246 i wont too sets  ;D
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: BigPines on May 15, 2013, 08:24:14 PM
Seriously! I mean, that HAS to be cheaper than the plastic when you consider the shipping saved. ::scratch

It sounds like there may be enough interest to make this happen this time around.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: pslim337 on May 15, 2013, 08:30:52 PM
yes it is i got the mark cllap glass  an it was fine tell it got hot down here the heat made the glass bukle i need to sets one to put on the car an one for safe keeping
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: BigPines on May 15, 2013, 08:36:12 PM
I don't think anyone has an issue with Mike (Murci-Me) coordinating this if he decides to take on the project and offer it again.  This still leaves the question if the glass will fit both the coupe and roadster correctly and I'm sure he will want to know how many are seriously interested enough to leave a deposit.

If it's just for the coupes, then there might still be enough interest for a group purchase of G28 coupe glass.  If they don't fit the roadster, then  we still have the option of coordinating a group buy and absorbing the cost of tooling in each window.
Chris, unless I am mistaken, the OEM roadster glass is different. It would have to be confirmed by someone but I think the coupe glass would fit into the door but it wouldn't have the same cut on the top and some people may not like the look of the result. Personally, I wouldn't compromise on this but some people may disagree.

If someone will do OEM spec glass for that price, I would be all over that. Sadly, I don't think that will happen.

Too bad we don't all need the same glass. In this instance, we seem really fragmented. :(
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: Murci-Me on May 15, 2013, 10:44:21 PM
OK, I didn't mean for my post to sound like I was making fun of anybody, i'm sorry if it came across like that.
Years ago when I was working on my build, I went through exactly what I see many people going through now, -trying to find glass to fit my G28 build. After months of searching for donor glass, I came to the realization that their is not going to be a donor glass that will fit the opening exactly like it needed to be.
Autotemp offered to make the glass for me, all I had to do was send them an exact template of the shape, and what radius curvature I needed. I had to pay a $1K set-up/tooling fee ($500 each side), and then $160 for each set of glass, with no minimum order. I ordered 5 sets (10 pieces), and they arrived about 8 weeks later.
So now, Autotemp has my jigs to make my glass anytime I need it. They still charge $160/set which I think is a great price, but they also charge $300 for crating and shipping, no matter how many pieces you order.
If 5 people here wanted a set of glass, it would cost 5 X $160 = $800, plus $300 shipping for a total of $1100. Divide that number between the 5 sets, and each set would cost $220. Shipping from me to anywhere in continental U.S. is an additional $43, bringing the total cost to $263/set.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: solrac on May 15, 2013, 10:51:45 PM
count me in if it fits my reventon build.. i can do local pick up since i am in Los Ageles.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: BigPines on May 16, 2013, 11:00:36 AM
Murci-Me,

Any chance you could post some detailed pictures of one of your windows so people know what they are buying? Maybe some close-ups from the outside rolled up, rolled as far down as they go. Also, as No Bull asked, are they tinted/polarized? What is the thickness?

I am seriously thinking about getting in on this just in case my plans change and I go with a G28 body. This is so cheap that everyone building a G28 should be jumping in.

Thank you for your help with this.

Mike
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: pslim337 on May 16, 2013, 04:43:44 PM
263 got it im ready when u ready pm sent ::bounce
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: Murci-Me on May 16, 2013, 10:33:05 PM
The glass is the standard 3/16" (for use with maxima guides and regulators), and since it is automotive tempered glass it has the D.O.T. slight green tint to it. There is no other tint to the window than that, since in the grand state of CA. that would be illegal.
I'll look and see if I have any pictures of the glass. It uses the standard glue tab that is also found on most power window glass now, and the bottom edge of the glass is straight from front to back to allow for glueing of the tabs in any position.
When the windows are rolled down, about 3" stays sticking up in the opening. This is caused by the G28 door pocket not being deep (tall) enough to fit the entire height of the glass inside it when rolled down.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: Murci-Me on May 16, 2013, 11:02:22 PM
Heres the only pics I could find showing how far it sticks up when fully retracted......
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: Murci-Me on May 16, 2013, 11:54:12 PM
You can see the glass much better in this pic.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: BigPines on May 17, 2013, 08:42:55 AM
Oh I see! Now everything is clear. ;)

Seriously though, I don't think it is a big deal that the G28 glass doesn't go down all the way. It looks good to me. Thanks for the pics. Do you happen to have any that show the windows up so we can see how the curve of the glass matches. I assume it matches very well.

Actually, you don't share nearly enough pictures of your car Mike. This thing is beautiful. I'd love to see more!
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: dratts on May 17, 2013, 08:49:58 PM
If we ever get a group buy on g28 roadster door glass together I want to be in on it.  My top build is being held up until I get glass in place.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: BigPines on May 27, 2013, 04:47:58 PM
It is shocking to me that more people aren't clamoring to get this ultra cheap G28 coupe glass. The G28 has to be the most popular kit by far and glass has to be one of the hardest things to get right. This price is so cheap too! I'll tell you, if I was planning a G28 build, I would definitely be in on this.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: pslim337 on May 27, 2013, 04:57:50 PM
ya im trying to get m -me to do it agen i need some bad
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: pslim337 on May 27, 2013, 05:23:54 PM
ya im trying to get m -me to do it agen i need some bad.
the heat out side buckle the ones i got from mark
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: BigPines on May 27, 2013, 05:28:56 PM
I'm glad you told us about this pslim337. Who knows, I may have gone with plastic but no way I will do that now.  :(

I really hope enough people will come together to make the G28 glass happen.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: pslim337 on May 27, 2013, 05:31:50 PM
ya same here
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: LamboJayso on May 27, 2013, 05:38:21 PM
Guys don't be gullible, you think if one of Murcie-Me's door glasses were to crack on his car he'd need to initiate a group buy in order to replace it??? Nooo, for w/e reason he will continue to stall, perpetuate this group buy non-sense, and secretly get a kick out of everyone begging him to buy to his door glasses.

Like I said the only options are:
-No door glasses
-Hyundai Tiburon door glasses
-Or have a new set made up

-Jayso
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: pslim337 on May 27, 2013, 05:49:24 PM
a jay i went got a tiburon glass but i think i got the year wrong cuz it was a no go it was a2000
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: BigPines on May 27, 2013, 07:35:01 PM
Not sure where that is coming from LamboJayso.

Who said anything about his glass cracking? If so, I didn't catch that.

I really don't see that he is stalling. I see an inexplicable lack of interest in a valuable offer. ::scratch

If you have some other information, don't be coy, just tell us.

Mike
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: Murci-Me on May 27, 2013, 08:25:36 PM
Guys don't be gullible, you think if one of Murcie-Me's door glasses were to crack on his car he'd need to initiate a group buy in order to replace it??? Nooo, for w/e reason he will continue to stall, perpetuate this group buy non-sense, and secretly get a kick out of everyone begging him to buy to his door glasses.

Like I said the only options are:
-No door glasses
-Hyundai Tiburon door glasses
-Or have a new set made up

-Jayso

WTF? I have a second set of glass for my build just in case one of my windows ever do braek, which is very unlikely.
Where the F do you come off even saying something like that anyway? Its obvious to several people here that your agenda is selling AD bodies, and you try to steer anybody away from anything G28.
Personally, I dont care either way if people buy my glass or not. I'm not i the business of selling glass, so it doesnt matter to me if anybody ever purchases it again. Pslim337 mentioned he needed 2 sets, so if 3 more sets can be sold i'll place the order. I'll even place the order for just 2 sets if Pslim337 wants to pay $720 for just 4 pieces of glass.
The fact is Jayso, there is NO OTHER GLASS that will fit the G28 properly, and not even close. The only 4 options are my glass, plexiglass/lexan, order you own glass to be custom made, or have no glass at all. The Hyundai glass fits so bad it isn't even worth mentioning.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: Murci-Me on May 27, 2013, 08:29:42 PM
I think anybody who doesnt believe what this glass costs and how much this company charges minimally to ship needs to contact Autotemp directly to see for themselves.
Like I said, there is no minimum order for the glass, but the "shipping" is the same price for 1 set or 100 sets.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: BigPines on May 27, 2013, 08:39:28 PM
I just can't imagine the price is the problem. How could it really be any cheaper? Even if you were making a profit (which I know you can't be on this) - who cares? It is a great price! I really don't care if people make a profit on this stuff. I honestly expect it. If it is a good price and I need it, I will buy it. People should be able to make a profit for their time/skills.

This is dang cheap for REAL GLASS. I am still tempted to get some even though I am planning to go OEM spec. I know I will kick myself if I pass on this, my plans change and I end up going G28.

Mike
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: LamboJayso on May 27, 2013, 08:43:29 PM
^^There you go, you have enough ppl for the group buy now.^^

Lol idc if ppl want to buy my kit or not. But, whenever someone new specifically inquires about my kit, I will continue to aid in w/e way I can.

-Jayso
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: solrac on May 27, 2013, 08:45:10 PM
I am interested in the Glass.. i do think its a good price Murci-me is giving ppl a good price and most of all he is been honest of the cost.
I just have one question.. How do i know what a g28 body is.. ???
I have a reventon but i have no idea if they will fit or not.. since there are few different models out there..
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: BigPines on May 27, 2013, 08:48:40 PM
solrac, I could be wrong but I don't think this glass will fit your build. This glass is specific to the G28 or "Mercy 2" Car Kit, Inc. kit. Unless your doors are based on that specific kit, I don't think the glass will fit. :(
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: jrule78 on May 27, 2013, 08:50:52 PM
   I might be interested in a set as well. I currently have the plexiglass windows but think glass would be a better choice if available.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: pslim337 on May 27, 2013, 08:53:23 PM
Guys don't be gullible, you think if one of Murcie-Me's door glasses were to crack on his car he'd need to initiate a group buy in order to replace it??? Nooo, for w/e reason he will continue to stall, perpetuate this group buy non-sense, and secretly get a kick out of everyone begging him to buy to his door glasses.

Like I said the only options are:
-No door glasses
-Hyundai Tiburon door glasses
-Or have a new set made up

-Jayso

WTF? I have a second set of glass for my build just in case one of my windows ever do braek, which is very unlikely.
Where the F do you come off even saying something like that anyway? Its obvious to several people here that your agenda is selling AD bodies, and you try to steer anybody away from anything G28.
Personally, I dont care either way if people buy my glass or not. I'm not i the business of selling glass, so it doesnt matter to me if anybody ever purchases it again. Pslim337 mentioned he needed 2 sets, so if 3 more sets can be sold i'll place the order. I'll even place the order for just 2 sets if Pslim337 wants to pay $720 for just 4 pieces of glass.
The fact is Jayso, there is NO OTHER GLASS that will fit the G28 properly, and not even close. The only 4 options are my glass, plexiglass/lexan, order you own glass to be custom made, or have no glass at all. The Hyundai glass fits so bad it isn't even worth mentioning.
mike i have it right na 720
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: Murci-Me on May 27, 2013, 09:16:13 PM
I am interested in the Glass.. i do think its a good price Murci-me is giving ppl a good price and most of all he is been honest of the cost.
I just have one question.. How do i know what a g28 body is.. ???
I have a reventon but i have no idea if they will fit or not.. since there are few different models out there..

Measure from the "B" pillar to the rear of the mirror mount area. If it is 36" (+/-) this glass will work. If it doesnt, you will have no problem selling it for what you paid.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: Murci-Me on May 27, 2013, 09:22:25 PM
Also, is there anybody on the forum who is near Batavia Ohio? If so, they could pick the glass up, saving the shipping cost. They would then have to ship to each member who has paid, but that should be less than $40 anywhere in U.S.
They would also have to charge for the crating/packaging.
It would save a ton of money that would normally be divided between the sets of glass price. I would have to charge to ship it from here to each buyer anyway, so that cost is unaviodable. 
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: BigPines on May 27, 2013, 10:04:35 PM
That is an excellent idea. I wouldn't mind helping out but I am nowhere near OH.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: usmc_butler on May 28, 2013, 08:09:12 AM
Count me in for coupe glass if this goes through... PM me when its payment time  ::study
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: dratts on May 28, 2013, 03:40:43 PM
Please pm me if you want to be a group buy for the G28 roadster door glass.  I'm in for a set plus a spare set.  I am asking on other forums too.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: tonypaul on May 28, 2013, 03:43:40 PM
Has anyone tried window glass from a BMW 850i?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1993-BMW-850-850I-850CI-840CI-E31-Passenger-Door-Glass-Window-/400453734682?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d3ce7111a&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1993-BMW-850-850I-850CI-840CI-E31-Passenger-Door-Glass-Window-/400453734682?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d3ce7111a&vxp=mtr)

I have a Diablo so I have no idea if its even close in size/shape to a LP640, but I do also have a 850i and I was noticing how similar it is to me Diablo Roadster.....
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: BigPines on May 28, 2013, 04:14:20 PM
So you guys have your group buy then!

Committed:
  x2 dratts
  x2 pslim337
  x1 usmc_butler

Looks like there are your 5 orders right?

Other potential orders:
  solrac
  jrule78

Now it is just a matter of pulling the trigger.

Congratz! ::headbang
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: BigPines on May 28, 2013, 04:20:40 PM
Thanks tonypaul. That is an interesting option. I would be very interested to hear if that glass worked.

Just to put everything into perspective, the price of that one piece of BMW glass is $232.48 with shipping. Murci-Me's deal for a *PAIR* is only $263 shipped! I think this group buy is really a fantastic deal.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: usmc_butler on May 28, 2013, 04:25:23 PM
BigPines out of your numbers there, how many are coupe and roadsters? Its my understanding that Mike only has the molds at the glass company for coupe glass. Correct me if I am wrong but all members that are looking for roadster glass will have to pay the setup fee and start from scratch....?  ::scratch
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: BigPines on May 28, 2013, 04:31:41 PM
Crud. Yeah, I didn't notice dratts wanted roadster glass. :(

Yeah, Mike's deal is only for coupe glass. I guess it is still a little more complicated than I had hoped. Too many versions of glass on these things!

pslim337, did you want coupe or roadster?

I would just like to see this work out for everybody.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: tonypaul on May 28, 2013, 05:31:46 PM
Thanks tonypaul. That is an interesting option. I would be very interested to hear if that glass worked.

Just to put everything into perspective, the price of that one piece of BMW glass is $232.48 with shipping. Murci-Me's deal for a *PAIR* is only $263 shipped! I think this group buy is really a fantastic deal.

I wasnt refering that link for the price, more for the shape/size. :) Im sure the 850i window glass could be found cheaper elsewhere or even local for some folks. It might be worth checking out if the group buy doesnt happen or someone isnt willing to wait....
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: Nitemare on May 28, 2013, 05:57:07 PM
Hard to resist... Shouldn't really spend the money right now but I guess I don't have much time to decide  :(
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: BigPines on May 28, 2013, 06:01:05 PM
I wasnt refering that link for the price, more for the shape/size. :) Im sure the 850i window glass could be found cheaper elsewhere or even local for some folks. It might be worth checking out if the group buy doesnt happen or someone isnt willing to wait....

Sure. I understand and agree completely what you are saying. My comment was just a real-world example of how cheap this group buy is.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: pslim337 on May 28, 2013, 06:08:06 PM
Crud. Yeah, I didn't notice dratts wanted roadster glass. :(

Yeah, Mike's deal is only for coupe glass. I guess it is still a little more complicated than I had hoped. Too many versions of glass on these things!

pslim337, did you want coupe or roadster?  coupe

I would just like to see this work out for everybody.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: BigPines on May 28, 2013, 06:16:59 PM
OK, so for coupe glass you have...

Committed:
  x2 pslim337
  x1 usmc_butler

Other interest:
  x2 (roadster) dratts
  (Reventon - will coupe glass fit?) solrac
  (unkown) jrule78
  (unknown) Nitemare?
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: pslim337 on May 28, 2013, 06:20:34 PM
OK, so for coupe glass you have...

Committed:
  x2 pslim337    yes sirrr. ::headbang
  x1 usmc_butler

Other interest:
  x2 (roadster) dratts
  (Reventon - will coupe glass fit?) solrac
  (unkown) jrule78
  (unknown) Nitemare?
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: Murci-Me on May 28, 2013, 06:35:08 PM
We still need to find somebody near Batavia Ohio! If we could save the shipping/crating fee that Autotemp charges, it would bring the cost of the glass down dramatically.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: am33r on May 28, 2013, 08:15:33 PM
Count me in for a Roadster Set. I have Mark's Lexan still in the box if we need it for template.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: No Bull on May 28, 2013, 08:24:10 PM
I live about three hours from Batavia Ohio but I'm not jumping on this as the organizer for a couple reasons.

1. I simply do not have the extra time to coordinate the purchase, pick-up, crating and then shipping out to everyone.

2. I really don't want to deal with any hassles associated with product quality or fit and be "the guy in the middle".

3. I don't want to front my money to get the order started and then get stuck with needing to collect from everyone to pay the supplier.

4. My time, fuel and 300 miles on my car is worth something and everyone seems to be expecting this glass for around $270 a pair.  Someone has to crate these up after they've been picked up ($$$) and then pay to have them shipped to each builder ($$$). 

5. No one is totally sure how these will fit a roadster or if the molds for the coupe can be modified slightly to make glass for a roadster.  I would need a set of plexiglass windows that we absolutely know will fit a G28 roadster and take them to the glass supplier.

I could consider this if certain conditions were met up front.

A. My time and expenses (fuel / mileage) are reasonably compensated.

B. Crating is performed by someone other than me.  I can coordinate this locally in my town by someone who has the facility, materials and tool to build solid packaging.  Each buyer will be expected to pick these costs up plus UPS shipping.  I would simply want to pick up the order from the glass supplier and drop everything off at the packaging company (UPS store) who would then ship it to the buyer.

C. Someone must ship a set of G28 roadster windows to Batavia so they are able to compare them with the molds they have for the coupe.  I'm in only if they are able to make both roadster and coupe glass since there appears to be a demand for both.

D. Full payment (minus shipping / crating costs - TBD) for the glass most be received by everyone wanting a set of windows.  If the minimum order is not reached, everything will be refunded.  Payment would be need to be made by PayPal and any PayPal fees are picked up by the seller.  Shipping and crating costs must be received prior to shipment of the glass.

C. Any quality / fitment issues are worked between the buyer and the glass supplier.  Tracking numbers would be sent with each shipment and insurance would be mandatory.  Any breakage would be between UPS and the buyer.

I know this might sound like a lot a demands however I was once left holding the bag on a $15,000 mold injection project (Muscle car parking and reverse lens project) and it took me over six years to sell enough parts to recover my losses.  I've said it before, I have no desire to get into this as a business and I would only be able to help coordinate this as a last option and only if the conditions I listed above were agreed upon by everyone up front. 

Thanks,

Chris
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: No Bull on May 28, 2013, 08:27:45 PM
OK, so for coupe glass you have...

Committed:
  x2 pslim337
  x1 usmc_butler

Other interest:
  x2 (roadster) dratts
  (Reventon - will coupe glass fit?) solrac
  (unkown) jrule78
  (unknown) Nitemare?

I'm in for a roadster set if we can absolutely ensure a set can be made for the G28 roadster.

Thanks,

Chris
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: BigPines on May 28, 2013, 08:52:36 PM
Totally reasonable expectations Chris. The $263 a pair figure came from Murci-Me. If he no longer wants to coordinate this buy and ship them out, all bets are off. I sincerely hope this works out for all of you.

When it comes time to do my OEM glass, I plan to set something up with a company here on the West Coast. I will probably buy OEM glass to use as a template so we get it right. Hopefully by then others will be interested in buying some OEM spec glass to help me defer the costs of that fun little project.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: am33r on May 28, 2013, 11:20:42 PM
Moving forward on the Interest Section

Murci-Me G28 Coupe glass:

Committed:
  x2 pslim337
  x1 usmc_butler

G28 Roadster:

(Am33r has set of Mark Clapp - Will measure it this week and welling to send a set to the Glass Maker)

Committed:
  x2 dratts
  x1 Chris
  x1 Am33r

Other (Awaiting Fitment Research)

  (Reventon - will coupe glass fit?) solrac
  (unkown) jrule78 PLEASE LET US KNOW WHAT YOU"RE AFTER
  (unknown) Nitemare? PLEASE LET US KNOW WHAT YOU"RE AFTER
 :)
Let's complete the Interest Section then move on to Manage the Process. I will also contact two makers in CA to see what they can do for $300 or less a set.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: Murci-Me on May 28, 2013, 11:47:26 PM
First off, nobody has to "front" any money. I will pay for all the glass, but need a 50% deposit (non refundable) from anybody who wants a set.
Second (and most important) is that this COUPE glass will IN NO WAY FIT A ROADSTER. It wasnt designed to be a "fit all" for either build, and IT WILL ONLY FIT G28 TYPE COUPE BODIES.
I am 100% responsible for how this glass will fit, not the guy who crates it up and ships it out.
This glass was designed to fit the window opening on the G28 bodies. There is a difference of 1/2" in length between the right and left window openings on a G28, this glass fits accordingly.
The quality of the glass is top AAA+. It is manufactured by the top supplier of automotive glass in the United States. The clarity of the glass is superb, totally flawless.

I am offering this glass to anybody on this or other forums.
Pslim337 needs glass, and I will help him. If nobody volunteers to be a middleman to save everybody money thats fine, he and I will go this alone.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: jrule78 on May 29, 2013, 06:56:11 AM
    Murci-me, I am in a committed relationship with the coupe glass.  Thanks
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: No Bull on May 29, 2013, 07:49:30 AM
First off, nobody has to "front" any money. I will pay for all the glass, but need a 50% deposit (non refundable) from anybody who wants a set.
Second (and most important) is that this COUPE glass will IN NO WAY FIT A ROADSTER. It wasnt designed to be a "fit all" for either build, and IT WILL ONLY FIT G28 TYPE COUPE BODIES.
I am 100% responsible for how this glass will fit, not the guy who crates it up and ships it out.
This glass was designed to fit the window opening on the G28 bodies. There is a difference of 1/2" in length between the right and left window openings on a G28, this glass fits accordingly.
The quality of the glass is top AAA+. It is manufactured by the top supplier of automotive glass in the United States. The clarity of the glass is superb, totally flawless.

I am offering this glass to anybody on this or other forums.
Pslim337 needs glass, and I will help him. If nobody volunteers to be a middleman to save everybody money thats fine, he and I will go this alone.

Thanks Mike.   ::thumbup

Chris
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: Nitemare on May 29, 2013, 07:55:12 AM
So Mark clapp makes roadster lexan windows too or does he just make them oversize to be trimmed to fit both?
I have them but I never had to specify for roadster or coupe, I'm building a coupe
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: Murci-Me on May 29, 2013, 04:21:52 PM
There is a huge and very noticeable difference in shape between coupe and roadster glass. Sure, plexi can be cut to any shape you want, but very few people actually "want" plexi for their build. I imagine plexi side windows would also be a negative feature when it comes to selling the car.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: am33r on May 29, 2013, 07:02:50 PM
Yes Murci-Me.
So far, those who built Roadsters (maybe 10 completed builds out there) didn't need windows because they don't drive their cars 'enclosed' and have a Dry-Season open car. I am making mine with Windows and a Convertible Top because I'd like to drive it 'Enclosed' with my AC on if it's very sunny without the top being down. I'm also looking to work a windshied wiper in case it rains... I want an all season convertible!

If and when only the plexi could be available, then having such an all-season package is VERY desirable, and will not be a negative-feature by any measure if/when the car to be sold.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: solrac on May 29, 2013, 08:22:47 PM
COUNT me in for a set.. pm with info of payment.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: Murci-Me on May 29, 2013, 08:32:22 PM
Yes Murci-Me.
So far, those who built Roadsters (maybe 10 completed builds out there) didn't need windows because they don't drive their cars 'enclosed' and have a Dry-Season open car. I am making mine with Windows and a Convertible Top because I'd like to drive it 'Enclosed' with my AC on if it's very sunny without the top being down. I'm also looking to work a windshied wiper in case it rains... I want an all season convertible!

If and when only the plexi could be available, then having such an all-season package is VERY desirable, and will not be a negative-feature by any measure if/when the car to be sold.

Plexiglass side windows could never be a desireable option when compared to real glass. Common sense will tell you that a car with glass side windows is more desireable than plexi side windows. Plexi scratches (even the "scratch resistant"), warps, hazes, bends, can't be tinted, stains, and so on. Yes, having power windows on a roadster is a plus, but the windows being plexi is a negative.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: Murci-Me on May 29, 2013, 08:35:40 PM
Also, why wouldnt a car have a windshield wiper? You state that like its something most builds dont have, when in reality most builds do have it.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: am33r on May 29, 2013, 09:00:15 PM
Yep. As stated "if and when" no real glass is available for a roadster then plexi is more desirable then none (especially if the roadster has a convertible top). Yes there are things to improve the functionality & looks too it seems.

The wiper on a roadster (not as much as a coupe) has been neglected.
I have only personally seen 2 roadster replica Murcis and neither had wipers! Also the two "partial builds" I have seen by Rob on eBay in the recent past didn't even have holes for them.. Mitch's doesn't have one (my build is kind of similar to his) and I dunno if the rest of the guys here with roadsters are making them with wipers! CKI had also only completed one roadster with no wiper too. Btw. The ones that have wipers, what r they using!
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: BigPines on May 29, 2013, 09:43:30 PM
Truthfully, most of Rob's "partial builds" don't even have doors so his "builds" aren't a great example here.

I agree that a wiper is important! :)

If I recall correctly, some people are using a Toyota Yaris wiper.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: pslim337 on May 29, 2013, 09:57:24 PM
Truthfully, most of Rob's "partial builds" don't even have doors so his "builds" aren't a great example here.

I agree that a wiper is important! :)

If I recall correctly, some people are using a Toyota Yaris wiper. [yep i used it on mine]
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: Murci-Me on May 29, 2013, 11:26:55 PM
Its easy to make a replica wiper, they are not very complicated. I made mine from salvaged parts from the junkyard. I think I have about $30 into mine, $20 of that being the blade lol!
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: Murci-Me on May 29, 2013, 11:37:19 PM
OK so here we go, last chance to reserve your set of G28 coupe glass.
So far, we have Solrac in for 1 set, and Pslim337 in for 2 sets. I might purchase a couple sets for resale just to bring the price down, i'll have to see.
If anybody wants a set for their build, speak now or forever (or until next time I order) hold your peace!!! The glass will be shipped to me, and I will then ship to whoever has ordered them. I dont charge a crating fee, just the actual shipping cost.
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: usmc_butler on June 05, 2013, 09:02:50 PM
I'm out on the glass, good luck getting them guys  ::bounce
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: batbuilder on June 06, 2013, 02:24:49 AM
Hope I can be in on this deal. I would like two sets of coupe glass. I appreciate the opportunity to be a part of this and thanks Murcie-me for putting it together for us. Just let me know where to PayPal the deposit! Thanks again, Dave
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: Murci-Me on June 11, 2013, 12:46:56 PM
Glass was ordered today (6/11). The total cost is $270 (glass+crating/shipping+shipping to you). I ordered 6 sets;
Solrac............1 set
Pslim337........2 sets
Batbuilder......2 sets
Jrule78..........1 set

Autotemp told me 6 weeks lead time, but I was assured it would be much shorter  :)
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: dratts on June 11, 2013, 01:17:58 PM
Thanks for your huge contribution.  Wish you had a roadster!
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: No Bull on June 11, 2013, 05:31:00 PM
Thanks for your huge contribution.  Wish you had a roadster!

That makes two of us..   :(

Chris
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: autopro on June 11, 2013, 05:48:55 PM
Thanks for your huge contribution.  Wish you had a roadster!

That makes two of us..   :(

Chris

Well I wish he had OEM sized glass  :'(
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: am33r on June 11, 2013, 06:06:25 PM
Hey guys.

I am going a different Rout on my build since I do not care to have anything be OEM so I am going to sell my set. I will use whatever windows I feel like and modify the door to make them work.

I'll make a separate thread for it but I will post it here too.

I have a Mark Clapp set of Lexan Windows for the Replica Doors of LP640 Type Builds. They will fit: No Top Murcy-2 Kit from CKI or G28 Roadster kit from Triangle-G, Joe Griego, or RobsLP640.

They are brand new with the platic casing still on them and in their original box. They are the perfect curve - simply the best

I bought them for $200 shipped but I'll sell them for $150 Shipped if anyone on the forum is interested  :) or I could just mess with them and consider them part of my "Research and Development Spending Fund"
Thank you
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: pslim337 on June 11, 2013, 09:31:30 PM
Glass was ordered today (6/11). The total cost is $270 (glass+crating/shipping+shipping to you). I ordered 6 sets;
Solrac............1 set
Pslim337........2 sets
Batbuilder......2 sets
Jrule78..........1 set

Autotemp told me 6 weeks lead time, but I was assured it would be much shorter  :)
thanx big time cant get the doors done wit out them  ::thumbup
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: pslim337 on September 22, 2013, 03:25:27 PM
a yo im still wating on my glass whats the deal its been 3 months
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: No Bull on September 22, 2013, 04:14:36 PM
Mike aka Murcie-Me is no longer a member here.

Could someone who has Mikes email address please private message it to everyone who had glass ordered with him so they can complete their orders outside of this site.  Please do not post it in this thread.

Thank you,

Chris
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: Merciero on October 19, 2013, 11:57:21 AM
So what did we figure out with the reventon windows? The rev is an spawn off the murcielago so I assume it would be the same. But will these fit a cki rev? What do tall use?
Title: Re: in need of some g28 door glass asap some one help
Post by: Tallon on October 19, 2013, 07:37:20 PM
But the g28 is not really like the real murcielago so who knows if a specific rendition of the rev is like the g28 :S
Not sure what it's based off of
same with the windshield which is probably why it says to use an accord's