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Build Diaries => Murcielago => Topic started by: lp670mike on July 15, 2013, 11:35:34 AM
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Hi guys,
Don't post much here but I do check in frequently.
Just thought I would post some pics of my project that I am working on. I am building plugs for the 670 kit.
So far I am just about done the rear wing, wing struts, and the rear bumper.
The plugs are made out of mostly particle board and foam. I will then glass the pieces and body work them. Then finish them in an epoxy primer.
I started with a 3d cad model of the 670 and scaled it in auto cad then created templates to transfer onto the particle board.
The process is actually going a lot quicker than I thought. only have a bout a week into it so far.
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Some more pics
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and a few more
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Pretty cool! ::thumbup
What are you planning to do for body panels? I am particularly interested in the front bumper and front fenders as I am thinking of using the LP670 versions in my build.
Mike
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Very fine work Mike! Will these be for sale or just for looks? :)
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some more pics of the progress.
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Nice work so far!! ::thumbup
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that is excellent work! ::salute
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this is it for now. I should have the complete rear mocked up by the end of the week.
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Great stuff you got going on there, is that mdf board???
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Thanks for the good words.
The material that I am using is 3/4" particle board. It is pretty easy stuff to work with.
It is pretty cheap also 22 bucks for a 4'x8' sheet
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He did say in the initial post these are plugs.
Mike
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They will be used to pull molds from. ::thumbup
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Hi guys,
Don't post much here but I do check in frequently.
Just thought I would post some pics of my project that I am working on. I am building plugs for the 670 kit.
So far I am just about done the rear wing, wing struts, and the rear bumper.
The plugs are made out of mostly particle board and foam. I will then glass the pieces and body work them. Then finish them in an epoxy primer.
I started with a 3d cad model of the 670 and scaled it in auto cad then created templates to transfer onto the particle board.
The process is actually going a lot quicker than I thought. only have a bout a week into it so far.
Sweet!
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TEST just checking to see if updates can be posted....
Seems to be working ::thumbup
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Just a TEST to if I can update without pictures.
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Some more progress.
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a couple more ::thumbup
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That is some fantastic wood woking skills you have there :drool
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very impressive work ::thumbup
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Nice job
My LP670 slowly being done, but you can already see the effects of
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wow very nice :drool
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At the same time, I do too LP640, a pity that the day has only 24 hours
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At the same time, I do too LP640, a pity that the day has only 24 hours
Where have you been hiding your builds? Those are awesome please show more!
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I will be updating the progress with pictures as much as I can.
I am long time on this forum and watch others builds and even I have my kit from a very long time (2 years) I've only just found some time to get started with it
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I second Auto! Very nice build ::beers
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I am still waiting on my rear quarter panels and exhaust bonnet to finalize the fitment on my parts. Going on 2 years now and I still don't have a complete body. At this point I am waiting for the rest of my body parts before I go any further with this project.
Thanks,
Mike
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Work is slowly going foward
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Hey guys started working on my front
Bumper last week. Its in really rough stage
Now. I was playing around with maybe
Doing a variation of the 670 but making it
More of an original design. Just wanted to
Some opinions. Again its very rough at this point
And I could still go 670 replica. Just trying
To decide. Let me know your thoughts.
Thanks
Mike
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WOW!!! that looks stupendous!!! Personally I like the Replica LP670, if it were I that is the route I would go. Keep up the Super Duper work!!! :drool
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Looks great so far. I like how you utilized the original bumper. How did you mold the new pieces on so perfect?
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Thanks guys I am still debating wich way to go
With this.
I will put up some more pics next week.
The material I am using is a green dry floral foam
From the craft store. The nice part is you can fiberglass
Right on the foam and the foam will not melt
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Really? I've used that stuff it's so delicate, nice for carving but I thought the resin did melt it :S maybe depends what you use?
The bumper shape looks amazing I'd love to do this
Nice idea making a bottom template to sit on
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Really nice work your car is looking awesome.
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Hey Tallon,
I will go out to the barn tomorrow and see what brand the foam is.
I used it on my 670 wing buck and had no problems putting fiberglass on it.
Maybe there are different types, not really sure. It is super easy to shape though. I just hot glue the blocks together and go to town with saws and sanding blocks.
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Are you using gp polyester or epoxy resin
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Yeah I used poly resin for the wing buck
Maybe thats why I had no issues. I plan on
Using epoxy resin when I make the molds and
Parts.
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Hey guys back with a little update.
Its too cold to do any fiberglass in my
Shop so the bumpers and wing are at a
Stand still until spring so I decided to see
What I could do with the engine bonnet.
To about a day of layout and staring at
Pictures but I think I am off to a good start.
Pretty sure the factory designed theirs off
Of a murcie bonnet too. It all layed out
Perfectly once I figured it out. I will start chopping
It up this week. Enjoy! ::beers
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That's awesome! thanks for sharing this process
I was thinking about doing it to mine
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No problem.
If you hang in there a few more days I can make you some paper templates which will save you
a lot of time figuring out all what I just did. Once it is lined out and trimmed it shouldn't be to hard
to add the new fiberglass pieces. I am going to use flat FRP sheeting cut all my new pieces, scuff everything up with a sanding disc on a 90 deg. die grinder. Then panel bond all the parts together.
when set up I will flip it over and laminate the whole thing again in fiberglass. I am going to have a glass shop make the hexagon windows out of 3/16" tempered glass.
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Here's what I have come up with so far, in a psd at actual size
once I get the overall dimensions correct I should be able to get them for each piece
window ledges aren't outlined in this
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Lookin good dude! I started trimming mine this week
I will post some pics of where I am at tomorrow. I made my hexagon
Windows all the same with 7" equal sides. I kept going
Back and forth looking at pics, wasn't sure if they
Were actually different sizes or it was just an optical
Illusion?
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I was thinking they jump down a size each one just slightly but it's hard to tell. I'm using a sky view pic of the lp670 and cropped the hatch portion. The hatch is on an angle obviously but not sure how much it affects the image.. Doesn't seem like much because if you measure them all length-wise they're basically the same, just different width. Or so I thought :S
Boxes abc are all the same size in the picture and the intersecting lines show the windows as different width
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Yes Tallon, you are correct. The windows are larger toward the roof and smaller toward the tail end. I have estimated the measurements in the attached image based on my 1:10 scale model. I don't know how accurate the model is but it looks very accurate and it should at least give you an idea of general proportions.
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I matched them all up to my outlines I had and most of them are dead on or pretty close
two of them are off within an inch or more
The length can easily be obtained from an oem hatch, the top measurement that is off I'm not sure about
Maybe this should be split up into a new thread, I don't mean to hijack just sharing ideas :)
look at width on long boxes and height on tall boxes.
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I was thinking along the same lines too.
But the more pictures I looked at I started to
Question if they were the same or not. Check out this
Pic to me the windows look the same size. Also
I was looking a a pic of the bottom of the engine
Bonnet and it looks like the fiberglass supports
Are all the same size and shape?
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interestingly enough.... each of the three to purchase are the same price... though they do have three different part numbers...
429827631C
429827632C
429827446C
and the magic price would be a smashing $2,663.14 each !!
or, you can get the whole collection in one easy to buy price of just $5,428.66 !!
just imagine the savings buying the complete set !!
get two...they're small !! ::duh
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I am gonna go ahead assuming they are equal
Since I already chopped it up. ::toothy these are
My other reference pics. I will get some pics up tomorrow.
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I can tell you from the info that I have ..... that they are all indeed different. :)
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Are you able to measure the glass in that cad file? Because that would be a huge help.
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Did you make that CAD file String? If not, what is the source?
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I was thinking along the same lines too.
But the more pictures I looked at I started to
Question if they were the same or not. Check out this
Pic to me the windows look the same size. Also
I was looking a a pic of the bottom of the engine
Bonnet and it looks like the fiberglass supports
Are all the same size and shape?
If you look at that photo, it is heavily distorted by the lens used (almost like a fish eye lens). The perspective and the lens distortion give an optical illusion that the windows are the same size when they are not.
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I drew the same to-be intersecting lines on those reference pics as well and it still shows they're different sizes. (won't bother posting those)
They just look the same by eye since they only differ slightly on each side. You can also just put two pieces of straight paper up to your screen and see. Human eyes are not good at seeing these small differences.
I'll just wait to see how this compares to Strings dimensions...
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I matched them all up to my outlines I had and most of them are dead on or pretty close
two of them are off within an inch or more
The length can easily be obtained from an oem hatch, the top measurement that is off I'm not sure about
Maybe this should be split up into a new thread, I don't mean to hijack just sharing ideas :)
look at width on long boxes and height on tall boxes.
I re-measured the top piece and it is actually 380mm (picture fixed) which gets a lot closer to your measurement. I also found one of the 160mm was in fact 170mm and changed that. Tough to get these measurements on a 1:10 scale model. I verified the length was in fact correct.
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Oo we might be measuring two different things at those slants, ah well
That top piece was the main thing - I moved it up until it turned into 15"
I wonder if the scale model's hatch is longer than the real hatch? 53.49mm difference from what I got :S
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What type of model are we taking measurements from? Auto art?
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Thanks for all the input guys. I am gonna run out to my workshop and make some more
adjustments. ::beers
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taking into account the body panel gaps , that are filled in on a cad model , this model is actually quite close 5mm or so to when I measure an actual part.
So what I have done is take measurements from the model , redraw them next to the panel - rounded up slightly , and used the angles measured and come up with these glass panels . I have then overlayed them back ontop of the engine bonnet and look good.
The car model is not mine and I respect (c) , but the glass panels I will upload here, with a couple of pics to show the size differences. :)
Forgot this front view - bonnet open pic..
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Nice String! That Is almost exactly what I got for measurements (within about a mm or 2) after scaling up my 1:18 scale Auto art model!
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Thanks for all the help guys. And big thanks to string
For posting those numbers. I got it all mocked up
I just have to add the glass support rings on
The under side. I have it all built out of cardboard and tape
But the next step is to transfer the pieces to frp
Sheet and bond it all together.
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A few more ::beers
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Yes thanks string this is great :D
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Yes, String is an asset to this site and is very generous with the info he has.
String, I am not saying your measurements are not correct but I am very interested where you got your drawings/plans. Can you divulge the source? Are these OEM or a video game model or what? If they are OEM, how can we purchase/obtain this information?
Thanks bud.
Mike
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I believe the answer to that question will require vast resources of money, high level security and possibly one or two of your first born...along with maybe an arm or leg as added value...
but if String wont tell you, i may be persuaded with similar influences and beer... ::beers
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So I guess I am last to know eh?
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Progress!
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Sorry dont know why they came in sideways. They look normal on my phone.
And a couple more.
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Hello, I have a pair of hinges copied oem engine compartment. if interested.
purchased the digibeam to me, he can tell the quality.
I think it would come right to complete his 670 engine compartment
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Hatch looks great so far!
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Finally started to mock up the body and start the 670 conversion! ::thumbup
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A few more
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Nice work mike! Very impressive work man!
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I second that great work for sure! Keeping a close eye on your progress!!! ::headbang
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Thanks! Still a ton of work ahead of me. Once I mocked up the body I realized the part bucks I made from the video game model were pretty far off from OEM parts. So now Iam going back and modifying my parts to fit with my OEM parts. I will get it all sorted out soon. I have been following your build aswell. Your car is looking awesome!
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You are doing a wonderful job there Mike, I really admire your skills.
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Nice work! ::thumbup
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Here are some pics of the begining of the mock up.
I am further along now but I have to take new pics. These are all i had on my phone. Took alot of slicing and dicing but it is all coming together now. Almost ready for body work. Then off to have molds made!
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Anyone have an idea why my photos keep coming in turned 90 deg?
Seems like it just started this lately. I dont think I am doing anything different?
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Quit trying to get creative with your camera angles, it looks really good but she ain't no super model!!! J/k I have no idea, just wanted to bust your balls!!!
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And a couple more. The hardest part was creating all of the compound curves in the pieces. The parts I started with were just flat mdf. I had to make cuts and miter the pieces in multiple dirrections then bond everything back together. Along with completely dicing the the 640 bumper. That was the point of no return lol.
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Nice work man!
My LP670 front in progress ::wave
Now must working on the front fender (wings)...
(http://img12.rajce.idnes.cz/d1203/9/9776/9776151_4b309be7d950ef21076ee0392db0045a/images/DSC_1550.jpg?ver=0)
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Looking good man!
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My back bumper