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Build Diaries => Aventador => Topic started by: INSPIREcomposite (BANNED) on September 29, 2013, 09:18:00 AM
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Hi. i am ncrazyballa from MM. thought i let you guys over here know that i completed the exterior of my aventador body. Im willing to make a few copies of the kit, check out my website inspirecomposites.com (http://inspirecomposites.com) if youre interested.
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wow nice job
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wow nice job
thank you sir
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how much are you selling the kits for?
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How close are the dimensions to the original? What is the cost of the kit?
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How close are the dimensions to the original? What is the cost of the kit?
how much are you selling the kits for?
perhaps 6500 for full kit. i planned on pricing it more but the panels need to be refined with body work. i dont know how accurate it is to the real car, but this was made with a cnc machine and 3d model that was extracted from a racing game thats a great source for accurate cars.
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Beautiful !! The only concern is how much bodywork will be required to refine
I don't know if Eddie made his off the racing game too but none of his panels are usable without extensive bodywork
I wish someone would make an aventador with Watson levels of precision where all the parts will bolt on perfectly like OEM
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Wow, im very impressed..im new to the replica building but i admire all you guys that build these quality cars its a serious talent. i have roblp640 building me an aventador right now and he just posted the chassis on his youtube channel.
its nice to see aventadors finally being built cause you gotta admit they are extremely rare to see and very beautiful design. great job on your body! ::headbang
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Wow, im very impressed..im new to the replica building but i admire all you guys that build these quality cars its a serious talent. i have roblp640 building me an aventador right now and he just posted the chassis on his youtube channel.
its nice to see aventadors finally being built cause you gotta admit they are extremely rare to see and very beautiful design. great job on your body! ::headbang
How is he building you an aventador when the only body panels he has are the front and rear bumpers and hood ??
He doesn't have the entire side , he is going to need to buy it from a supplier like Eddie or ikr or this one ??
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Actually he did buy the kit a few weeks ago from a guy named eddie whos from Florida..i think he advertised for a while under the name "venta700"?? but hes still waiting for the kit to be made im told it takes about 4-6 weeks to complete?
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What glass fits this kit?
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At first glance this certainly looks like the most accurate of the Adventador kits out there? At this early stage I am happy to put the work in to get the body straight. The hardest part is getting its shape.
Given the arrival of this kit, unless someone can point me at something perfect, I will go this way.
To update those interested, I have been busy putting together the design detail for my car having initially had the intention of using a twin turbo Bentley engine. After a lot of research I think it is a smarter move to go with a LS7 or LS9 based engine. You can buy all the after market ECU and harness to bolt them up. Further, anyone can work on them. No one can promise that they can get the Bentley to run with a non Bentley gearbox and we are likely to spend thousands.
The issue I have is that it just doesn't sound like a V12. I have been working with Charlie Strickland who has been a massive help and we think a destroked, high revving engine. With some work we can still get up to 700hp and still be drivable. Then some good exhaust work. Any ideas?
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"venta700" is Eddy from South Carolina and he's a scammer. Check around and evaluate these so called builders. Some do produce but have turned into scammers ( not sending product). Roblp640 owes me an Reventon but has agreed to replace the Reventon with Aventador because the molds for the Reventon is trashed ( Robslp640 words). So lets see how all this play out in 4-6 weeks.
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I have managed to find a couple of people lately that seem good. Not much when it comes to Adventador though.
The site and supporting pictures are much more than provided by others in the case of Inspire Composite. Lets not judge until we see but fingers crossed.
I was / am still seriously considering the Vendetta from Franco at Gagliardo. He has also been great to deal with and sounds professional. He has plenty to show to support the quality of the kit and workmanship. However, I really want to build the chassis and driveline and may not be able to get the kit on its own from him. Good thing with Vendetta is that it is its own design and you are not trying to get it to look like an exact replica of anything.
I will keep you posted.
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Wow i didnt know the guy from "venta700" was a scammer i talked with Tony i never spoke to anyone named Eddy but the guy seemed very helpful and had a stretched fiero chassis for sale that he was offering and he also said he would help me out with the build giving me pointers and telling me where to get necessary parts etc. i never suspected him as being a scammer, what a shocker. Regarding RobLP640 so far everything seems ok for now, i havnt received the title to the chassis yet but im waiting. Rob did show me the receipts for the body kit he bought from venta700 and hes starting my build diary on his youtube channel showing my chassis if that means anything. All is good so far, sorry to hear about your aventador body situation i hope all works out for you.
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"venta700" is Eddy from South Carolina and he's a scammer. Check around and evaluate these so called builders. Some do produce but have turned into scammers ( not sending product). Roblp640 owes me an Reventon but has agreed to replace the Reventon with Aventador because the molds for the Reventon is trashed ( Robslp640 words). So lets see how all this play out in 4-6 weeks.
There were never any molds for the reventon
All rob did was take your body and fix it to make it more accurate. Molds were never made
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You might be right about the molds. That guy Tony, his real name is Anthony. Those guys had me convince that they were legitimate but trust me the aren't. I have the police report and my lawyer is still fighting this civil matter but these cases take time. They are saying they doctors and ex pilots. They gave me all types of tips and blah blah. They scammers trust me.
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i understand what your saying but Rob did show me the receipts where he paid for the body on ebay, hes been good to communicate, He told me that his (tony's) body's are too thin but can be re-inforced and fixed. When i spoke to Tony and told him that Rob was building my car and biuying a body from him , he was furious and hang up on me. he later called me back and aplogized. All in all i believe that the aventador is coming soon and its abpout time cause im burned out on murci's (never thought id say that) but they are almost getting to be like Camaros..(everyones got one) time for a new sexy beast like the Aventador to hit the streets! And im sorry to say this but who in the world with two eyes and a brain would like to drive a reventon? i mean look at it.. it looks like a fricken batmobile. Im just sayin... ::rocker
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You are dealing with three crooks (rob tony and Eddie ) so the chances of something not going right are very high . Be careful .
Just for reference , to show you what kind of people these are, eddie scammed jadams by selling him an unusable $30,0000 reventon and shipped him a different terrible body than the one he showed jadams in person/ one with huge gaps, overlaps and poor body lines. then rob conned Jadams into giving him this Eddie reventon body for free , with the promise he would make him a "better " reventon body
In reality all rob did was correct the problems with eddies reventon body and put it up for sale himself .
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Well, Robs been very honest with me and i actually flew with my wife out to meet him in Arizona, he took me to his house and his shop and showed me everything, even took me to see the mold hes making of the aventador, we just decided to buy venta700's cause robs mold will take a while to finish. Im sorry to hear about the problems jadams had but i did see Rob posted that he will fullfill his commitment soon with an aventador body. Thanks for the advice I hope all works out for everyone, im going remain optimistic cause he is posting my build already on youtube and he was very open to me and my wife..im excited ::rocker
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Hey I wish you the best of luck. Just be careful and know who you are dealing with
Also read these prior threads
http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=1079.0 (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=1079.0)
http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=818.15 (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=818.15)
These people will smile in your face and say anythjng to keep getting your money . When it comes time to deliver what is promised , after you refuse to send more money, is when the problems start
Also look at ebay item 111178928236
Rob is trying to sell eddies kit, using eddies pictures . No wonder Eddie is pissed at rob- he knows rob will try to steal all his business , so he may decide not to even ship the body you paid for to rob
These people are all lowlife backstabbing scammers who will lie cheat and steal to make a dollar, so you need to keep your wits about you
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Nice car you got there, man I swear. Im getting so sick of people throwing around the scammer word its not even funny. Im building a LP 640 kit myself. its sitting in my garage. That said Ive dealt with many people along the way, for knowledge here and there. Some of these people have been spoken of on the boards. either way. If you don't have a court document with a court case won against someone stfu! If someone didn't send your 200 usd part to you then dispute there butt in paypal. they offer 45 day dispute limit. If you blindly send money to people and dont cover your butt then that's your fault. If you wire money you should be smart enough to know the rules of money wire( ie there are none). if you PayPal someone your should have clear instruction of approx many time for parts to arrive. its not freaking rocket science. My LP is near done and other than some wait times Ive had a pretty good experience, with most builders around the usa. some spoken about on the boards as scammers, but I haven't been scammed once. And no i dont work with any of them, either way running your mouth without proof is called slander. and slander can have you thrown in court. either way we are all adults, with enough extra money to throw at a 30k+ extra hobbie. use your head. end of rant.
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cki is making the same kit I believe (VENGEANCE-7) might not be the best quality tho but probably same as rob's would be. $5,000 I spent more on my mercy2
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The area code for the phone number on the website is the one next to mine, which would put it right outside of Chicago.
This is not a model I am interested in but I could PM this builder and see if I can check out the digs.
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Where do I find CKI and the VENGEANCE-7?
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I found it on Google. First result: http://www.carkitinc.com/carkit2.php?id=19 (http://www.carkitinc.com/carkit2.php?id=19)
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It really is amazing that on this little chat session a couple individuals are talking trash, well let me see, I have video of at least 7 cars completed, no one else on here does, I have a video out with 6 cars in it, two completed, anyone top that, didn't think so. Second, I showed my customer my receipts form the body I bought, I should him where his money went on the v8 chassy with the custom motor. Oh so I did not build a mold of the rev, funny I still have the areas that did not get damaged and still have parts for it. Im not some little female dog in here talking trash, so if you want to talk trash come to AZ and do it to my face, which you wont, also here's my number if you would like to call and talk trash or come see a real builders work 480-688-7526
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Rob is the only one who offers any OEM spec Aventador body panels to my knowledge. Nobody else does right?
We all need to be careful no matter who we deal with. We all need to be smart.
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You should always go in person to see the work and talk to the build, u can get a feel if he is legit and knows how to Build.
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I'm sure
Rob is the only one who offers any OEM spec Aventador body panels to my knowledge. Nobody else does right?
We all need to be careful no matter who we deal with. We all need to be smart.
He isn't the first to obtain anything and I don't believe anyone has oem aventador parts copies they are all cnc of 3d models or made from scratch. Not like accurate lp640 panels from watson.
The person who made this thread isn't rob and he has a body as accurate as it can get at the moment (until a real, most likely wrecked car is bought and splashed) does he not? Think we're getting off track here :\
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Um my Hood, front bumper and real bumper are oem splashes. 100% perfect, lights and grills fit in. You can sea first hand my copied oem parts with a wide body kit built off it at the sema show in Vegas on a real aventador
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Meant a complete exterior kit but cool good job, I may have missed you posting it but I don't doubt you at all
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Um my Hood, front bumper and real bumper are oem splashes. 100% perfect, lights and grills fit in. You can sea first hand my copied oem parts with a wide body kit built off it at the sema show in Vegas on a real aventador
But those oem splashes are not going to fit in with eddies body ?? Or are you not going to use the OEM pieces with eddies body and just use eddies parts ?
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I won't know until I get it and see what differences there are
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::salute
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some more parts.
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I'm new to this forum but I've read about this "Watson" guy. Who is he? Seems like he does some amazing work.
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I'm new to this forum but I've read about this "Watson" guy. Who is he? Seems like he does some amazing work.
john Watson
One of the most talented kit builders ever
His company was air dynamics
http://www.air-dynamics.ws/ (http://www.air-dynamics.ws/)
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Due to health issues he isn't building anything and several people haven't been able to get what they already paid for
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I'm new to this forum but I've read about this "Watson" guy. Who is he? Seems like he does some amazing work.
I'm new to this forum but I've read about this "Watson" guy. Who is he? Seems like he does some amazing work.
john Watson
One of the most talented kit builders ever
His company was air dynamics
[url]http://www.air-dynamics.ws/[/url] ([url]http://www.air-dynamics.ws/[/url])
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Due to health issues he isn't building anything and several people haven't been able to get what they already paid for
Wow, sorry to hear. Hopefully he gets better. Looking at the pictures on the site, that looks like an awesome build. Reminds me of Extreme but they have their own problems too since the new owners took over. I bought the build CD since I was considering the Murcielago and they have the most accurate kit ever, but then the Aventador caught my eye and that was the end of that. Now the obsession has set in hahaha
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If you want to see some of the most amazing work known to mankind look for mike vetter hes in florida, i actually drove 5000 miles to see him and his shop, i still get chills thinking about what i saw. I have never seen a more awesome display of talent. His cars are in movies and even some NBA players have bought his cars. Hes very nice and downt to earth, you can give him $1000 dollars cash and come back in 20 years and he will still be holding it in his pocket for you.
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If you want to see some of the most amazing work known to mankind look for mike vetter hes in florida, i actually drove 5000 miles to see him and his shop, i still get chills thinking about what i saw. I have never seen a more awesome display of talent. His cars are in movies and even some NBA players have bought his cars. Hes very nice and downt to earth, you can give him $1000 dollars cash and come back in 20 years and he will still be holding it in his pocket for you.
Does Mike have a site or is he pretty much only old school?
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http://kitcarmike.com/the-car-factory-store/etv.aspx (http://kitcarmike.com/the-car-factory-store/etv.aspx)
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[url]http://kitcarmike.com/the-car-factory-store/etv.aspx[/url] ([url]http://kitcarmike.com/the-car-factory-store/etv.aspx[/url])
Wow, another great kit car designer/fabricator. Too bad they're not interested in working with this project though :(
Well not sure what happened to this thread but hoping someone will do a near 100% splash of this vehicle. Let's put our money together and rent the Aventador for a week and just splash everything and then put it back together like nothing happened. What better way of getting accuracy ::thumbup
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vetter's murcie was one of the more inaccurate ones from what I know but looks like you wouldn't go to him for a lambo kit
I don't think anyone will risk ruining a new aventador like that, gotta find one salvaged, it took years to copy older models why do people expect this car to be copied so fast :S no one has even finished an lp670 rep yet
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I think you have a very good point about the Aventador body's Tallon, it took builders some time before they got a nice looking murci body available, the Aventador body thats available is too new and doesnt look quite right (venta700). The only Aventador body ive seen that looks accurate is from Carlos Munoz but no one can reach him. As far as paying someone to build you a car, thats honest and guaranteed not to rip you off and does awesome work, mike vetter is hands down the guy you want. Trust me, that guy is on a completely different level than anyone i have ever seen, simply jawdropping work, no joking.
vetter's murcie was one of the more inaccurate ones from what I know but looks like you wouldn't go to him for a lambo kit
I don't think anyone will risk ruining a new aventador like that, gotta find one salvaged, it took years to copy older models why do people expect this car to be copied so fast :S no one has even finished an lp670 rep yet
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Let's put our money together and rent the Aventador for a week and just splash everything and then put it back together like nothing happened. What better way of getting accuracy ::thumbup
This happened on the Countach. The guys brought the car back a mess from what I have read. Ouch!
Patience...Trust me, people are working towards an OEM kit right now. It will happen.
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these are the latest venta parts ive made.
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vetter's murcie was one of the more inaccurate ones from what I know but looks like you wouldn't go to him for a lambo kit
I don't think anyone will risk ruining a new aventador like that, gotta find one salvaged, it took years to copy older models why do people expect this car to be copied so fast :S no one has even finished an lp670 rep yet
That's why you also get the LDI ;) and then there are no worries if for some odd reason a bunch of gear heads can't figure out how to slap a Lambo back together, then there won't be any issues. I would normally never purchase it on a normal rental but this is very special case in which I would. Also after extensive research, I don't see why it would be any more difficult than any other vehicles. Every panel that you can see on the outside of the actual vehicle unbolts and comes right off. Thankfully this vehicle is a monocoque so NONE of the body panels with the exception of the roof, is permanently attached to the frame itself. Thus making splashing the whole exterior with near 100% accuracy that but better. No 3D models of guesstimates needed here. Luckily the roof isn't some crazy maze of shapes so splashing that along with the pillars shouldn't be extremely difficult. If there are a group of extremely excited and dedicated vehicles, I don't see why this couldn't happen. I'm just throwing this stuff out there. There is a place that rents a matte black Aventador starting around $5,500 a day. I'm figuring a week would be sufficient time to mold some plugs. 1/2 a day to carefully tear down the vehicle to the rolling chassis, about 4-5 days to splash the panels and make the molds, and the rest to put everything back in place. Also while we're at it, why not create a simple jig to accurately measure and possibly come up with a frame that people can build themselves. Not everyone wants to reuse tired old vehicles. If you have welding skills, why not make a frame? If you provide the labor and parts, I don't believe it would cost much more than buying a donor vehicle and modifying that. I could be wrong on that last point, so don't peg me to the stake hahaha.
It may seem like a lot, but why not get a group of seriously interested individuals together, get a small fraction of money from each member of the group to rent the vehicle and splash the heck out of this vehicle. I'm pretty sure most of us here can make a pretty decent mold off an actual piece. Not all of us have the talent to eyeball and freehand things, that's where expertise and excellent skill comes in, but most people with any average skills can create a mold with near perfect accuracy. If we have a team, each one can be allocated to a section of the vehicle in order to be efficient and save as much time as possible. Also I know the worry about someone running away with the funds and what not, but how is a group that will physically meet up run away with the funds? It's not like it's being sent to 1 person. A whole helluva lot safer this way IMO.
Just throwing the idea out there. I don't believe it needs to take years to create an accurate body, panels, and most importantly, the molds in order to reproduce those parts.
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I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a serious deposit required on that rental and who wants to sign their name (and credit) on this rental for this project? I'm not saying it is a bad idea. It has been done before and I'm sure it will be done again.
Personally, I would rather 3D scan the car to avoid damage but even that involves some risks. We'll get there. I'm not in a hurry personally.
But hey, we are kind of stomping on INSPIREcomposite's thread here. We should take this discussion elsewhere. Sorry INSPIRE.
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I really don't think this would be a job for anyone who can make simple moulds. It's a huge job that needs to be done by professionals. This is a half a million dollar car...
Not saying Inspire couldn't do it
or someone like watson
or Digibeam
but not "most of us"
Chances are those people aren't going to take on this project and making the moulds and parts professionally would probably cost more than the thousands to rent the car as if that wasn't already a lot. So a lot of the bodies on the market weren't splashed from rentals. But if you're serious about it, that's awesome but it's probably something you'd need to do on your own.
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I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a serious deposit required on that rental and who wants to sign their name (and credit) on this rental for this project? I'm not saying it is a bad idea. It has been done before and I'm sure it will be done again.
Personally, I would rather 3D scan the car to avoid damage but even that involves some risks. We'll get there. I'm not in a hurry personally.
But hey, we are kind of stomping on INSPIREcomposite's thread here. We should take this discussion elsewhere. Sorry INSPIRE.
Ooops, my apologies. You're right on that point. Didn't mean to hijack the thread. Well currently working on another project so this one will sit on the back burner temporarily. Not like they're gonna discontinue the Aventador anytime soon so I think we'll be safe on this idea for a little while ;)
P.S. I wouldn't mind renting the vehicle under my name. I'd for sure without a doubt get the insurance from them so there are no liabilities to my name. I used to work in the rental industry, it's worth it if you're worried about anything happening. In this case it would be a no option but to get it. Also, the deposit isn't huge at all. It's about $500 minimum but definitely not anymore than what it costs to rent the vehicle itself. I mean it wouldn't make any sense that you need an American Express black card to rent an Aventador when you can actually buy one with that card. This is for the "common" folk who want to live like a king for a day or two ;) I've researched this already. Kinda serious about it hehe ::thumbup
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The exotic junkyards in Sacramento Ca have aventador that you can splash , and they won't charge $5500 a day
In fact you could probably get them to loan it to you for $1000 total . That's the way to do it , use a salvaged one , preferably something like a flood car where the panels are still perfect
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We are still waiting on the body from Rob. Still no word on anything being shipped my way.
Fieroking
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Hopefully you get your stuff soon. Always an anxious moment while waiting for something you paid for.
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What a nice dream to have for renting an aventador for that much money!
Heck no!
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Really? Why do you say that?
http://vanityexotics.com/listing/lamborghini-aventador/ (http://vanityexotics.com/listing/lamborghini-aventador/)
https://www.bwrentacar.com/vehicles/exotics/lamborghini-aventador.html (https://www.bwrentacar.com/vehicles/exotics/lamborghini-aventador.html)
http://www.aaarentcars.com/rent/rent-lamborghini-aventador-lp-700-4.html (http://www.aaarentcars.com/rent/rent-lamborghini-aventador-lp-700-4.html)
http://www.miamirentacar.com/english/rent/quote.aspx?v=11743#.Uz12gq1dW0Y (http://www.miamirentacar.com/english/rent/quote.aspx?v=11743#.Uz12gq1dW0Y)
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why the emphasis on an "exact" copy?
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Because it is the gold standard. It is less work to make it work. OEM glass and other parts fit.
It is the same amount of materials and same cost to produce an accurate panel as it is an inaccurate panel. If you could have a kit that was an exact copy for the same price as a kit that was not, why wouldn't you go for the exact copy? I guess my counter question is, why NOT place the emphasis on an exact copy?
That being said, you can make a nice looking replica that isn't based on an OEM splash - it just isn't my first choice.
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Start pricing an OEM windshield and you will
Wish you were not building OEM. ::tongue. I have an OEM body
And it does get more expensive once you take that road. Exact replica is nice
But it is definitely more costly. I guess it just depends on your budget.
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Because this project most likely will never be finished..
can the op afford to take on such a project? it would make sense to know this before continuing discussion
oem glass, door parts, lights, grills, hinges, interior, drivetrain, chassis, wheels, paint etc etc. haven't even been factored in yet
Not to mention it hasn't been done yet so lack of knowledge out there compared to building a g28.
Meanwhile we wait for the first watson kit to be built :S
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Tallon,
We will wait another eternity for the parts to be delivered to even start the builds.
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Hi
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? What does it mean???
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Venta R kit
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Kit looks great!
? What does it mean???
it means he has a kit that he is now selling....
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continued.
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This is an incredible amount of work. Congratulations. You are an inspiration to me. ::thumbup
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hey who knows how to get this body mold ::rocker
Please STOP already! If you are looking for a body, post something in the "wanted section". Read the threads before asking questions and post a thread in the members section introducing yourself.
Chris
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Sounds like a corporate trademark troll to me
All he asks in every thread is who has molds
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no I just need help finding a mold but yea my bad
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Ive been working on many new parts for the kit, one of them is a new upper cab that would fit a stock windshield. here it is :occasion
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continued. hope you guys like it. ::study
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Good job. Now some inexpensive oem door glass. People will flock to you.
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Will the Saturn coupe door and window work with that ?
Being able to use a whole OEM door unit would be Awesome . If you could just take off the Saturn door skin but leave the OEM window mounted in its track so the power windows work perfect straight away!!
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that would fit a stock windshield.
Which stock windshield?
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Will the Saturn coupe door and window work with that ?
Being able to use a whole OEM door unit would be Awesome . If you could just take off the Saturn door skin but leave the OEM window mounted in its track so the power windows work perfect straight away!!
Good job. Now some inexpensive oem door. People will flock to you.
at some point im going to redo the door jams as well so it would be ideal to use a donor door that would fit the jam. However, the glass would need to be trimmed because i just cant see that there is a donor out there with a glass that would fit the new roof. or else i would need to redo the sides of this new cabin piece, which is possible.
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If the aventador roof is similar to the murci roof then the Saturn ion door might work
See pics
http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=2668.msg22266#msg22266 (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=2668.msg22266#msg22266)
The Saturn sc coupe doors and ion doors are the ideal assuming the windows will work - redo the door jamb so you can just bolt these in and you'll save hundreds of hours of time trying to make custom doors /windows work . The kit buyer can just pop in Saturn door assemblies and have working power windows that fit !
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How about late model Civic side glass....? Looks like it has a nice rake to it.
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have money so what u want for this kit
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On second thought, looking at the door, maybe rear side glass from a four door of several models would work, you would have to flip the sides and find the small triangular window for the front. Like this Honda not an exact match but it shows the idea.
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Ive been working on many new parts for the kit, one of them is a new upper cab that would fit a stock windshield. here it is :occasion
I'll try this again, as my previous question went unanswered. Which stock windshield Inspire? What Make and Model?
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2015 Honda Civic Si Coupe
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here is the kit as of now.
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some more
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Can you show us what you recieved?
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Yes. Please post pics.
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(Quote from MM, where I was banned by a person calling himself Powerhouse, without me violating any forum rules there; this is why I post my reply to you here instead)
(http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Bobi1 (http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png) (http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/showthread.php?p=213148#post213148)
"Sorry for the late input in this regard, I have been busy with recovering my health recently.
I used the exact same dimensions listed in the official technical page of Lamborghini Aventador, hence my chassis design is made according to the proper scale and should fit any properly developed body kit for this car. [url]http://www.lamborghini.com/en/models...pecifications/[/url] ([url]http://www.lamborghini.com/en/models/aventador-lp-700-4/technical-specifications/[/url])
I took measurements from the same 3d model that was said to be used by the maker of the body kit mentioned in this thread, and I figured out that its scale is wrong. This is what I measured now, compared to the genuine Aventador:
- 30.82 mm shorter wheelbase (2669.1848145 mm versus 2700 millimeters);
- 66.12 mm shorter overall length (4713.8808594 mm versus 4780 mm);
- 27.26 mm narrower (2002.7372621 mm versus 2030 mm);
- 22.88 mm lower (1113.1203613 mm versus 1136 mm).
I don't know if the body kit is wrong scale, but the 3d model is definitely smaller. Also, there is an issue with the roof shape, resulting into an inability to roll down the door glasses inside the door panels. The latter could be fixed only if the A-pillar, A2-pillar and B-pillar are being cut and modified to take a proper shape. "
Today, 07:54 PM #89 (http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18902&p=213181&viewfull=1#post213181) ncrazyballa (http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/member.php?u=43210) (http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/images/statusicon/user-online.png) Last edited by ncrazyballa; Today at 08:11 PM.
"hey bobi, after glenn bought my body, he decided he wanted to build a tube chassis, he asked for the 3d model of my kit so that he can give to you so that you can make sure the chassis plans you were selling him would fit my body. thats why you have my 3d model, isnt that right? I didnt sell glenn a body under the pretense that it would fit your chassis, however, you did sell him a chassis plan under the pretense it would fit my body. Also, the oem dimensions isnt the problem, you made a guestimate where to support and anchor the doorjam for an aventador kit because there is no such info that could tell you exactly where the tubing should be placed in your design."
No. My chassis was never supposed to be scaled down, in order to fit your body kit. I designed my chassis according to the official dimensions provided by Lamborghini, such like wheelbase, length, width, height, wheel size and location, and roof pillars were shaped to meet the proper side window curvature so that the power windows could roll down inside the door panels. I told all of my customers that my chassis will fit any properly developed Aventador body kit with real 1:1 scale and overall dimensions comparable to the genuine car.
It was obvious that the body kit Glenn bought by you was not meeting the size of the genuine Aventador (shorter wheel base, shorter length of the side skirt, shorter overall length, narrower body, etc) and proper curvature of the side glasses, this is why he sent me the 3d model which you used for your CNC-build. I had to check that 3d model, take measurements, and tell him how different the body kit was compared to the official Lamborghini technical dimensions. From there, I was able to get the distances I listed in my quote above.
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(Quote from MM, where I was banned by a person calling himself Powerhouse, without me violating any forum rules there; this is why I post my reply to you here instead)
([url]http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png[/url]) Originally Posted by Bobi1 ([url]http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png[/url]) ([url]http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/showthread.php?p=213148#post213148[/url])
"Sorry for the late input in this regard, I have been busy with recovering my health recently.
I used the exact same dimensions listed in the official technical page of Lamborghini Aventador, hence my chassis design is made according to the proper scale and should fit any properly developed body kit for this car. [url]http://www.lamborghini.com/en/models...pecifications/[/url] ([url]http://www.lamborghini.com/en/models/aventador-lp-700-4/technical-specifications/[/url])
I took measurements from the same 3d model that was said to be used by the maker of the body kit mentioned in this thread, and I figured out that its scale is wrong. This is what I measured now, compared to the genuine Aventador:
- 30.82 mm shorter wheelbase (2669.1848145 mm versus 2700 millimeters);
- 66.12 mm shorter overall length (4713.8808594 mm versus 4780 mm);
- 27.26 mm narrower (2002.7372621 mm versus 2030 mm);
- 22.88 mm lower (1113.1203613 mm versus 1136 mm).
I don't know if the body kit is wrong scale, but the 3d model is definitely smaller. Also, there is an issue with the roof shape, resulting into an inability to roll down the door glasses inside the door panels. The latter could be fixed only if the A-pillar, A2-pillar and B-pillar are being cut and modified to take a proper shape. "
Today, 07:54 PM #89 ([url]http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18902&p=213181&viewfull=1#post213181[/url]) ncrazyballa ([url]http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/member.php?u=43210[/url]) ([url]http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/images/statusicon/user-online.png[/url]) Last edited by ncrazyballa; Today at 08:11 PM.
"hey bobi, after glenn bought my body, he decided he wanted to build a tube chassis, he asked for the 3d model of my kit so that he can give to you so that you can make sure the chassis plans you were selling him would fit my body. thats why you have my 3d model, isnt that right? I didnt sell glenn a body under the pretense that it would fit your chassis, however, you did sell him a chassis plan under the pretense it would fit my body. Also, the oem dimensions isnt the problem, you made a guestimate where to support and anchor the doorjam for an aventador kit because there is no such info that could tell you exactly where the tubing should be placed in your design."
No. My chassis was never supposed to be scaled down, in order to fit your body kit. I designed my chassis according to the official dimensions provided by Lamborghini, such like wheelbase, length, width, height, wheel size and location, and roof pillars were shaped to meet the proper side window curvature so that the power windows could roll down inside the door panels. I told all of my customers that my chassis will fit any properly developed Aventador body kit with real 1:1 scale and overall dimensions comparable to the genuine car.
It was obvious that the body kit Glenn bought by you was not meeting the size of the genuine Aventador (shorter wheel base, shorter length of the side skirt, shorter overall length, narrower body, etc) and proper curvature of the side glasses, this is why he sent me the 3d model which you used for your CNC-build. I had to check that 3d model, take measurements, and tell him how different the body kit was compared to the official Lamborghini technical dimensions. From there, I was able to get the distances I listed in my quote above.
if you think 3/4" off wheelbase of a body that comes in seperate panels is going to matter then you are just stupid my friend. please let me reiterate again, i sent glenn my 3d model almost a year ago. he wanted it so that you can check chassis fitment of my body. This was even before he started building the chassis. and you failed to modify the chassis for him or inform him of it? again, you are an idiot bob.
boss pit was right, you claim your original designs are original, they are just remakes like the one that looks exactly like the pt cruiser. and even the FLT car.
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(Quote from MM, where I was banned by a person calling himself Powerhouse, without me violating any forum rules there; this is why I post my reply to you here instead)
([url]http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png[/url]) Originally Posted by Bobi1 ([url]http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png[/url]) ([url]http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/showthread.php?p=213148#post213148[/url])
"Sorry for the late input in this regard, I have been busy with recovering my health recently.
I used the exact same dimensions listed in the official technical page of Lamborghini Aventador, hence my chassis design is made according to the proper scale and should fit any properly developed body kit for this car. [url]http://www.lamborghini.com/en/models...pecifications/[/url] ([url]http://www.lamborghini.com/en/models/aventador-lp-700-4/technical-specifications/[/url])
I took measurements from the same 3d model that was said to be used by the maker of the body kit mentioned in this thread, and I figured out that its scale is wrong. This is what I measured now, compared to the genuine Aventador:
- 30.82 mm shorter wheelbase (2669.1848145 mm versus 2700 millimeters);
- 66.12 mm shorter overall length (4713.8808594 mm versus 4780 mm);
- 27.26 mm narrower (2002.7372621 mm versus 2030 mm);
- 22.88 mm lower (1113.1203613 mm versus 1136 mm).
I don't know if the body kit is wrong scale, but the 3d model is definitely smaller. Also, there is an issue with the roof shape, resulting into an inability to roll down the door glasses inside the door panels. The latter could be fixed only if the A-pillar, A2-pillar and B-pillar are being cut and modified to take a proper shape. "
Today, 07:54 PM #89 ([url]http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18902&p=213181&viewfull=1#post213181[/url]) ncrazyballa ([url]http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/member.php?u=43210[/url]) ([url]http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/images/statusicon/user-online.png[/url]) Last edited by ncrazyballa; Today at 08:11 PM.
"hey bobi, after glenn bought my body, he decided he wanted to build a tube chassis, he asked for the 3d model of my kit so that he can give to you so that you can make sure the chassis plans you were selling him would fit my body. thats why you have my 3d model, isnt that right? I didnt sell glenn a body under the pretense that it would fit your chassis, however, you did sell him a chassis plan under the pretense it would fit my body. Also, the oem dimensions isnt the problem, you made a guestimate where to support and anchor the doorjam for an aventador kit because there is no such info that could tell you exactly where the tubing should be placed in your design."
No. My chassis was never supposed to be scaled down, in order to fit your body kit. I designed my chassis according to the official dimensions provided by Lamborghini, such like wheelbase, length, width, height, wheel size and location, and roof pillars were shaped to meet the proper side window curvature so that the power windows could roll down inside the door panels. I told all of my customers that my chassis will fit any properly developed Aventador body kit with real 1:1 scale and overall dimensions comparable to the genuine car.
It was obvious that the body kit Glenn bought by you was not meeting the size of the genuine Aventador (shorter wheel base, shorter length of the side skirt, shorter overall length, narrower body, etc) and proper curvature of the side glasses, this is why he sent me the 3d model which you used for your CNC-build. I had to check that 3d model, take measurements, and tell him how different the body kit was compared to the official Lamborghini technical dimensions. From there, I was able to get the distances I listed in my quote above.
if you think 3/4" off wheelbase of a body that comes in seperate panels is going to matter then you are just stupid my friend. please let me reiterate again, i sent glenn my 3d model almost a year ago. he wanted it so that you can check chassis fitment of my body. This was even before he started building the chassis. and you failed to modify the chassis for him or inform him of it? again, you are an idiot bob.
boss pit was right, you claim your original designs are original, they are just remakes like the one that looks exactly like the pt cruiser. and even the FLT car.
Exposing your true nature is always welcome. It's not the first time you prove yourself as acting this way, using personal insults and bad language. Several people already exposed you here and on MM.
Let me tell you again, so that you can properly understand:
1. My chassis is designed according to the real dimensions and scale of Aventador.
2. To CNC-mill your plugs and build your body kit, you used some 3d mesh model that is smaller scale in any direction (it's not only the wheelbase!). Also, the side glasses are tilted too much, hence the door window will not be able to roll down inside the door panel.
3. The door jams of your body kit are completely wrong where the weatherstripping must be installed, and go too deep inside the cabin.
4. You failed to check and set a proper scale to the 3d model before you went to CNC-mill the plugs. My 1:1 scale chassis have never been supposed to be scaled down, in order to fit your smaller scale body kit.
5. That improper 3d mesh model you were using was sent to me with the sole purpose to check how much wrong is it, and where it will be necessary to be split into pieces and extended in a way to match the real scale of the genuine Aventador.
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Ups ! 888o ---- :o ---- ::police
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Try eHarmony.com
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::help
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Try eHarmony.com
he said eeeee harmoneee
hahahahahhahaha
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Once again the irony. They are on here bickering because they got banned from madmechanics, on a forum created because of a ban on madmechanics.....
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I didnt get banned from MM, bobi did because hes a donkey, and decided to come here and post it in my thread to spite me. at 36, his hopes and dreams of starting a car company are fading quick and he knows it. He really thought someone would invest 2 million dollars because he designed a 3d model. LOL. Doesnt have a real job or career, wasted the last 12 years of his life learning how to 3d model and not actually creating anything in real life. The only success hes had was due to my cnc build thread and decided to imitate me by doing cnc work. Matter of fact, the only reason why he sold a chassis plan, is because of my venta r body. Guy is pathetic and criticizes everyone else's work that hes not capable of.
i mean look at this guy, this is an example of it
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([url]http://i58.tinypic.com/2i6mcrc.png[/url])
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I didnt get banned from MM, bobi did because hes a donkey, and decided to come here and post it in my thread to spite me. at 36, his hopes and dreams of starting a car company are fading quick and he knows it. He really thought someone would invest 2 million dollars because he designed a 3d model. LOL. Doesnt have a real job or career, wasted the last 12 years of his life learning how to 3d model and not actually creating anything in real life. The only success hes had was due to my cnc build thread and decided to imitate me by doing cnc work. Matter of fact, the only reason why he sold a chassis plan, is because of my venta r body. Guy is pathetic and criticizes everyone else's work that hes not capable of.
i mean look at this guy, this is an example of it
([url]http://i62.tinypic.com/1zyjaes.png[/url])
([url]http://i58.tinypic.com/2i6mcrc.png[/url])
Hey, Nathan (Inspirecomposite), the MM forum member once known as Powerhouse banned be without me violating any of the forum rules. He was angry that I exposed him, thus he sent me nonsense PM and just served his own ego by banning me from the forum and telling people lies (he wrote that I sent him a PM with insults, which is definitely not true!). I have no problem with him pretending to be forum god with virtual powers, I just watched and... smile was the best I could do at that funny moment. I'm glad that this happened, because more people are now able to see this person's ego and real character better exposed. It was him and you who used angry insults all over your posts. No wonder you did not get banned on MM, because you both look like brothers, mental-wise.
As for your latest post above, I see that you still continue to use your notorious insults and bad language towards other people (for which a few forum members over here and on MM already told you the truth in your face). You have no idea of what you are talking about. I would recommend you to look at your own skills and fails, before you try to do so with others. You can write whatever you want regarding me or anybody else. You can dream about your perfect skills and my complete lack of expertise, if you believe so.
Last week I was forced to spend extra time on figuring out how to fix the issues related to your exterior and interior kit, because I have a customer who can't use your smaller scale body kit and interior. Yesterday I found that your interior kit is quite inaccurate, which makes it unusable in the real world. You had to carefully check the 3d model's dimensions and scale, prior using it for CNC-milling. This is a copy of my report that I wrote yesterday about the interior you made:
1. The instrument panel and steering column position on that 3d model are about 115.03 mm more towards the left door than necessary. They are positioned in such way that the driver's head would need to be located just below the left roof pillar, and the former will most likely hit the left door window. The center of the driver's body (as well as the seat, steering wheel, etc) must be 350 mm off the center of the car. This means that the distance between the centers of both seats must be 700 mm. Inspire's 3d model have this distance set at whopping 930.06 mm instead.
2. The central tunnel panel is twice as wide, especially around the feet area, hence it will reduce the feet room by mere 100 mm at each side compared to my chassis. On my chassis, I made the tubular central tunnel 200 mm wide. However, the 3d model of the interior is 412.5 mm wide, which pushes the driver 100 mm closer to the left door. Considering that the fiberglass thickness is usually about 5 mm for interior panels, a proper central tunnel panel should be 210 mm wide when covering the chassis.