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Title: car keys
Post by: jw9800 on October 18, 2013, 02:33:35 PM
What do you guys use for keys? DO you use the same GM key or get a Lambo looking key?
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Post by: AdrianBurton on October 23, 2013, 07:50:13 AM
I am looking for some too, but I am using the sebring column
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Post by: rodrieguz on October 23, 2013, 10:06:34 AM
Lambo looking key, got mine from lambostuff years ago.
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Post by: AdrianBurton on October 23, 2013, 10:27:58 AM
that was for the GM column right????
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Post by: rodrieguz on October 23, 2013, 10:52:14 AM
Yes, gm column.  Buy the key And make a mold of the end piece.  Fit new piece to your key
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Post by: jw9800 on October 23, 2013, 03:56:47 PM
What do you use for the casting material?
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Post by: jw9800 on November 27, 2013, 09:35:27 AM
Well I got a Lambo key and molded it and attached the end part to my Fiero key and guess what? It doesn't fit in the slot any more. The rubber end is too wide to accept the key any more. Back to the drawing board.
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Post by: 01Lambiero on November 27, 2013, 08:51:58 PM
Can the key slot be milled wider?
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Post by: rodrieguz on November 28, 2013, 07:51:53 AM
If it's a fiero column you have to remove that plastic ring/ears that you would grip as you turn the key
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Post by: jdinner on November 28, 2013, 10:41:45 PM
I know a guy that owns a real 6.0 and he let me borrow the air bag key to mould it. I used Por-a-Mold (synair) to make a mould of the key head. I used a Cavalier steering column so I also used the two sided Cavalier key.
I had a key cutter make several keys and then ground down the head to fit into the mould.
I used an alligator clip on a frame to support the key in the mould while the polymer cured.
Then I poured Por-a-Kast into the mould with the key supported in it. It turned out awesome.
No pictures :(   - I'll get some soon.
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Post by: jw9800 on November 29, 2013, 07:15:38 AM
Yes, the ears are in the way, I didn't know you could take them off. I really like jdinner's idea about replacing the steering column with a cavalier's. I wonder can you just use a ignition lock cylinder from a cavalier and thus get to use a new key or do you have to replace the whole column? I molded mine with silicon molding. What polymer did you use?
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Post by: rodrieguz on November 29, 2013, 06:31:40 PM
You can swap to a cavalier column, the key cylinder idea won't work.  Here is a pic of the fiero column with the ears removed.  The column cover was made to fit the fiero cylinder location.

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Post by: armyman on December 06, 2013, 05:47:39 PM
I have an OEM air bag key and ignition key, I will be making some molds if anyone is interested, I'm thinking $35.00 shipped. 
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Post by: BigPines on December 06, 2013, 06:41:01 PM
Are you talking about molding the part that holds the actual key? Is that different for ignition and air bag?
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Post by: armyman on December 06, 2013, 06:47:57 PM
I bought this on ebay and the Air bag key I have looks just like it.
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Post by: BigPines on December 06, 2013, 07:08:10 PM
Hmmm...I'm kind of interested but I don't know how I'd get my key into that piece without forming it around the metal myself. Do you have an idea how this would work?
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Post by: armyman on December 06, 2013, 07:14:56 PM
 Say we use a fiero key, The way I am going to do it is create a Two piece mold, after the mold is done take the fiero key and place it in between the mold with only the metal male part sticking out and mold it like that. It might take a few tries to get it right, but I think it will work. ::rocker
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Post by: armyman on December 06, 2013, 07:17:14 PM
I might even have to trim the key to get it to work right! Whats your thoughts BigPines?
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Post by: BigPines on December 06, 2013, 08:00:02 PM
I think it may work but we'd all have to send you keys. I wonder what a complete key package from the dealer would be?
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Post by: armyman on December 06, 2013, 08:04:42 PM
You wouldn't have to send me a key, Just the make and model of car and key code, I would then get a blank key of the car depicted and use the blank key for the mold and you have the key cut off your key.
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Post by: armyman on December 06, 2013, 08:06:42 PM
Of course I would try it first with one of my keys and see how it works.
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Post by: BigPines on December 06, 2013, 09:09:20 PM
I'll be interested to see how it goes for you.
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Post by: armyman on December 06, 2013, 09:13:21 PM
Give me a few weeks to get caught up on my Aventador build and I will post pics of the key as soon as it's done.
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Post by: AdrianBurton on December 06, 2013, 09:44:02 PM
35 sounds fair, I am using the sebring column in mine though
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Post by: armyman on December 06, 2013, 10:00:50 PM
I could do the Sebring If you knew the make/model/year and key code, of course it would come to you as a blank key and you have it cut from your key. but let me do a trial run first.
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Post by: AdrianBurton on December 07, 2013, 05:57:49 PM
it is a 01-05 sebring column I have no idea what the key code is, I cannot find the key code on the key
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Post by: armyman on December 07, 2013, 06:04:42 PM
Let me do some trial and error on one of my keys, and we can go from there!
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Post by: armyman on December 19, 2013, 08:36:12 PM
Man this key just don't want to mold right, I'm going have to try a different route. I tried with the plastic cast that is suppose to harden, but its turning out like a gummy bear. Any suggestions.
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Post by: Digibeam on December 19, 2013, 08:39:40 PM
what materials are you using?
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Post by: armyman on December 19, 2013, 08:41:52 PM
InstaMold for the Mold and Easy Cast for the actual part. Easy cast is suppose to harden like hard plastic, but its not.
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Post by: Digibeam on December 19, 2013, 08:55:22 PM
A few things with that and a few other casting products, first, it never seems to harden like other cast materials, also if you are adding any pigments, they can wreak havoc on the set up...
also it can take several days to harden and depending on the atmospheric heat and humidity it will also affect the set up time.
another thing is age, if the product is older than a few months then its past its life or if it has been opened for some time it tends to be hygroscopic and will absorb ambient moisture.
these are things i have had to overcome with my experience in casting and mould making.
i have the same key set that you do and if i find time i will make a silicone mould of it and see what can be used to make the key assembly, i have a product in mind that will be very similar to the oem material.
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Post by: armyman on December 19, 2013, 08:57:49 PM
Sounds good, I might try a few different things also.
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Post by: AdrianBurton on December 20, 2013, 12:22:30 PM
I cant wait to see the final product