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How To - Tips => Doors => Topic started by: dwafford on December 30, 2013, 04:07:33 PM
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I've just finished fabricating the channels/tracks on my Diablo Roadster build, and started trying to fit one side into the door. When I align the slanted portion of the glass with the door A pillar, the rear corner of the glass sticks up about 2" above the door B pillar (which on my kit is just a flat piece of fiberglass - lots of head-scratching remaining to be done there). I think this is okay, because this seems to match (roughly) the pics I've seen of real Diablos. What's really puzzling me is that the short vertical section of the glass at the front of the door is slanted relative to the edge of the mirror mounting panel. Don't know if I'm explaining this very well - but in photos of genyoowine cars, it appears that the trailing edge of the mirror mounting panel/leading edge of the door glass is pretty much vertical. As mine seems to be fitting up, the leading edge of the glass will be sloping a couple of inches - farthest rearward at the top corner, sloping forward to the bottom corner. I don't know for certain whose kit I have (bought from an individual years ago), so this may be unique to my kit, but I just wanted to check to see if anyone had run into a similar problem. I'll try to post a pic or two when I get home from work to better clarify. Any advice will be most welcome, even if accompanied by rolling eyes and groans of, "You big dummy, you!" ('Cause I say that to myself a lot!)
PS: Advice also welcome on how to post pics with a thread; tried before and couldn't figure it out. (And yes, I'm one of those tech-challenged old farts)
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To post pics...when you create a new post via the REPLY button (not the Quick Reply feature), simply click the link below the content section called "Attachments and other options" and the attachment controls will become visible. You can navigate to select the image you want to upload but some browsers allow you to drag and drop an image directly on the textbox (mine does).
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Thanks for the advice. We'll see if I get it right. If so, the first pic shows the front portion of the window frame taped to the inner shell A frame, and the second shows the outer skin laid on top of that. Thanks again for any tips!
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PS: Advice also welcome on how to post pics with a thread; tried before and couldn't figure it out. (And yes, I'm one of those tech-challenged old farts)
I see that you've figured it out with some help from BigPines. ::thumbup
Here is some additional help if you or anyone needs it.
Thanks,
Chris
http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=387.0 (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=387.0)
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if i am understanding the issue, the glass is sitting too high at the rear when the front is in its proper place?
im not up on my Diablo parts, but doesnt the top of the glass actually slant down towards the rear on the roadsters?
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I THINK the back end is okay - photos I've seen of real Diablos show the roadster glass standing up a little higher than that painted triangular piece above the door handle. It's the front edge that's really got me puzzled - seems that it should line up with the rear edge of the triangular piece where the mirror will mount - which is what it seems to do in pics I've seen. But if I tip the glass to align along that front edge, then the slanted portion of the glass along the A pillar is far out of alignment, and the rear corner drops well below the frame on the rear. I have AGP roadster windows, by the way.
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If you aligned the window tracks with the glass and not the doors, this is probably where you are having that issues. The AGP glass is not Diablo OEM correct and from what I've been told, this glass was made for the D&R replicas years ago and the glass is specific for that body. To add to this, the AGP glass that I have is labeled as Diablo roadster glass which may have a different rake and windshield pillar height than a coupe does and you might be experiencing some of this as well.
Chris
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any chance of seeing the glass in that area to get a visual of the fit?
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please, and without dropping the glass... maybe just lay everything down on its side...
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Here are pics with the glass laid in place. It wouldn't be that big a deal to cut and fill fiberglass as necessary to bring the mirror area flush with the window channel, but it would wind up looking a little different than factory to a close observer - and I want to make sure I'm not overlooking something before I take that route.
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okay a few things i am seeing...
i will go out on a limb here because i am not all up on Diablo, but
first is see you have the bottom of the door somewhat level across... i believe the door does sit more at an angle.. not straight across
second, the rear of the window could move forward still as that tab area seems a bit shorter than OEM size.
third the window i dont believe moves perpendicular to the bottom of the door which means that your frame does look correct and the window probably sits at a mild angle.
and you will need to add to that rear most area that also would hide the fact that the window climbs in an angled fashion compared to the rest of the door.
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I had a big problems with my doors (Naerc), thank to Jim, RT and KEN I got done after whole year .
anyway first of you need to hinge the door and latch it , then you'll need to align the A post with door A post.rear of the glass is higher. it's good to use roof as well to match all. I'm using Ford Tbird window tracks that fits the glass well.
mp me if you need any pictures. but I'm off to Florida for two weeks so after the 15th.
you can see how bad was the fitment of glass and A post pillar
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Digibeam, thanks for the suggestions. I'll look at all of this. I hate to move the window any further forward, however - if you look closely at a couple of the pics, you'll see why I pushed it back an inch or so from where I originally had it (you can tell because in the pics my frame extends an inch or so behind the A pillar) - where it is positioned now, the lower front corner of the window will hit the wheel well when it comes down only 9 inches or so. Any further forward and the window will hardly move down any at all. And Eddie, your point is good about getting the door mounted to check the glass against roof and body A pillar. I've been working on fabricating hinges (discovered mine can hardly have any offset like the factory hinges), so I'll finish those and get the door mounted before going much further with positioning the window. Thanks for the great advice, guys.
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Dan trust me I only work on my car on Sundays, but realy big help from Jim and RT.
I would be still nowhere
http://s849.photobucket.com/user/guywithlambo/media/roadster%20build/itworks_zpsbfc2654d.mp4.html?sort=6&o=0 (http://s849.photobucket.com/user/guywithlambo/media/roadster%20build/itworks_zpsbfc2654d.mp4.html?sort=6&o=0)
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who's glass is it ? ( body too) that's not NEARC gen ll
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Are you positive that the glass is for a Roadster? Is it AGP glass? What is the number on the door glass? Thanks, Jim.
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The glass is AGP roadster. The chassis is NAERC. I don't know whose body kit it is. I bought it from a guy in South Carolina about 10 years ago, who had bought it from someone in that part of the country who had been building body kits. I want to say RKS (?), but I really don't recall. He had a couple of kit cars in his shop that he was working on, and a chassis that he said was his design. I can tell you that I paid him for the body kit, plus another $2,700 for additional parts, including window regulators and motors, weatherstripping, door hinges and latches, and a bunch of other parts - which he never shipped to me.
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Jim,
Yes, it's AGP. The numbers on the packing list are 055.1.2259 (driver) and 055.1.2260 (passenger). The only number I see on the glass itself, under the AGP logo, is 72.
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dwalfford, Here is a couple of pics from kc from Rod's build and Switta's build. They show that your glass needs to be rotated cc. The front channel runs all the way to the bottom of the door and the rear channel is moved rearward. Hope this helps. You really should have your doors mounted on the body before you install your windows and tracks. The removeable top dictates the position and alignment of the glass also.
Jim