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Build Diaries => Aventador => Topic started by: nulafed on January 05, 2014, 07:45:55 PM
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So, I'm new to this board, but I wanted to start a build diary. Technically Rob (robsLP640) is building the majority of the car, but will be finished by me. The build should be done March 1st 2014, so perhaps a few months after that it will be driving.
On the chopping block that will already be completed is:
*Stretch chassis
*Doors aligned, fitted, poppers, hinged, glass and reinforced
*Front and rear lids hinged
*BIG brake system ( oh yea!)
*rear lights, front lights
*Air ride system (front and back)
*Sexy wheels mounted to that bad boy without the cheesy spacers
So as you can see the bulk is being done to make it easier to finish.
Once all that's done, I'll be looking at mounting an LS1 with about 700HP
I'd like to build it with a real manual tranny, Rob thinks it's doable, I just think the paddle shifters are less fun to drive.
I value everyone's input on additions to this car, so please feel free. Once I get more pics from Rob I'll post them. Progress should start back up in a few weeks.
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700 hp in a stretched fiero chassis? which way do you plan on mounting your engine?
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will this engine / trans set-up be longitudinal or transverse 6-speed (side-ways like the fiero engine set-up ) like this below
http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=1150.msg10308#msg10308 (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=1150.msg10308#msg10308)
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The plan was longitudinal with a porche transaxle with adapter. I was going to go with a Viper V10, but opted for cheaper price per HP. Are you guys suggesting it won't fit or that I should consider another option?
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Two pics Rob sent a month ago.
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Another pic.
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well, this is my personal opinion based on past experience with high horse power vehicles,
I would be wanting a custom tube chassis designed to handle the amount of torque that sort of horsepower can dish out.
a cut and modified chassis that is a few decades old... regardless of its apparent condition, would not be my first or last choice to say the least.
not to say that it hasn't been done or that it should not be done, but my recommendation for something of that caliber would be a custom chassis without question.
so, assuming you dont blow the clutch or break axles and assuming you actually hook up on the pavement... then the next thing that will happen is your frame is going to want to twist like a cork screw, if you feel that a partial fiero chassis with all its original integral roof/frame cut away then augmented with post welded frame implements will be adequate to absorb the horsepower and revert it back to the wheels without again breaking something down the line.
i am all in to see what you come up with. but i am just saying, if it were me, i would be going tube chassis...and in fact... that is what i have and i will be lucky to hit 450hp with the design of my engine, but the frame and all the mounts are fairly over designed to take that mild abuse compaired to what you are going to put your frame through.
just voicing my opinion because you asked... :)
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Welcome to the forums !! Can't wait to see your build , although please keep both eyes wide open when dealing with any kit builder and sending them money
Those two chassis pics are completely different cars .
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Welcome to the forum
I hafta agree with Digi on that, to much power in a mostly fiero chassis will be scary at best and downright dangerous at worse. If you are intending on that much power and want to build a mostly tube chassis and use the fiero tub like what RT did with his build.
Either way keep the pics coming an ask all of the questions that cross your mind
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I have to agree with Digi 100% on this. You will have trouble making that much HP work on the street and in a Fiero frame it is just not a good idea at all. You will not find a transverse transmission that will take it and a Porsche set up for that much HP will cost you around $12,000. I see a lot of builders getting carried away with HP numbers and they don't really have any idea what it takes to make that much HP and how to get it to the ground in a controllable manner. Go read through a bunch of the posts over on the GT40 forum and you will find that the guys who have experience building and driving these sort of cars will tell you that 400 HP will do most anything you want and let you have as much fun as necessary.
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nulafed…
Since Adrian mentioned my build I thought I'd add some info. I used a Fiero chassis as the basis for my build but vey little is left of the Fiero. I made a sub-frame for the engine, transaxle, suspension at the rear from a section of C5 Corvette rear frame. I narrowed it 3", aluminum suspension frame and all, to allow for appropriate wheel offset and built attaching points for everything else. The rest of the Fiero tub was re-made around the floorpan with rectangular steel tubing for strength. That is hardly what you showed in the pictures.
Horsepower is great but, in reality, you won't be using it much. Anything over 400 HP is just bragging rites with little usability. You might as well "exaggerate" the HP and nobody would know. That would be cheaper and more practical.
The other thing that I feel is "exaggerated" is expecting to be finished "by March 1st, 2014". THAT I want to see! Good luck.
Anyway, keep us informed.
RT
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nulafed, don't quote me but the two pictures above that you posted are of two different cars.
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Pictures: Pre-stretch, Post-stretch? Steering wheel same? Flip a coin. Engine in stretched chassis looks like it has made a home in there for a few months at least.
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Pre-stretch has the plastic hole plugs missing in the upper frame just behind and above the rear tire. The post-stretch has them installed. Who does that?
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I would like to add to Jdinner and notice not only the installed plugs but if you notice that actual size of the center oval in the oem frame above the rear wheel on the top image to the same oval on the bottom image...
how did it magically get smaller yet still be a punched/forged hole with dimple intact?
there is no question those are images of two different vehicles... not that i am very surprised but i am sure there is a very good explanation.
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http://lamboclone.com/index.php?board=35.0 (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?board=35.0)
Read first before you make anything
Most and lot of them newbies wants 1k hp engine and 5k$ sound system
Where are they today??? Did not listen ,did they ?
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Pictures: Pre-stretch, Post-stretch? Steering wheel same? Flip a coin. Engine in stretched chassis looks like it has made a home in there for a few months at least.
Honestly I thought the steering wheels DIDN'T look the same
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Maybe it's me, but I thought that the pigeon poop on the corner of the trunk was a dead give away! Is it snowing in Scotsdale again? The batteries on my electron microscope went south. You guys got good eyes. ::thumbup
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I dont think thats pigeon... looks more like red tailed warbler.... :P