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How To - Tips => Engine & Transmission => Topic started by: Tallon on July 26, 2012, 09:39:13 AM
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I can't find a car anywhere so if I were to buy an engine on ebay, most likely it won't come with anything, can anyone help me out on what else I need to buy and what the things should cost? Wire harness, ecu, accessories etc
It looks like the cheapest I can get a M73 is $1,300 shipped. Trying to keep costs down and I have no idea what I'll be spending when I get all that is needed to run it.
B&R auto has a 5.0 for 700 but they never show the part and don't reply to questions or add much info to their ads.
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theirs a whole car here ,but its not running ,i will check on it
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well there's some in cali but I'm way across the us I'm mainly looking in states close to ga
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I would keep looking, I spent a few months looking and found one about an hour south of my location. I paid 600$ and parted of the transmission, interior and whole car for 750$. The car paid for itself and some!
I dont know if Adrian Burton is still offering them but his package IMO is a no brainer. I just got all the parts in for my swap and should be rolling by early August. Everything bolts up perfectly.
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What's the most you are paying for your transaxle after adapting it to your engine and running it? I was going the cheap route but the 5 speeds are getting impossible to find.
Thanks
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they sold the whole car for $450.00 ...fuel pump was out ,it is now running
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Oh, wow thats a kick in the NuTs >:(
Someone gat a fantastic deal
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>_< darn
well
I'm not sure what would cost more just buying separate parts or getting a car shipped from CA
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Maybe you can work out a package deal with someone selling the engine on eBay... I doubt V12's are flying off the shelf and they would be more willing to work with you.
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yeah they never reply when I ask them any questions :\
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>:( Then your probably didn't want to buy from them anyway. Maybe it's the same person selling the "LP640 LP670 not sure"? And they aren't sure what the answers are to your questions. ::toothy
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wow a 5L that isn't far and it runs and drives
KY BILL OF SALE/PART ONLY/NO TITL
but I'm not eligible to bid on whatever that is
I would be using it only for parts anyway so I don't see why I'd need the title
Lot # 20271262
looks like from CA it would cost at least 1k to ship a car :(
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It's on eBay and you can't bid? ::scratch
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no, copart
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I really hope you get a V12 ::headbang
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If you decide to go standalone ECU, I suggest Haltech. I have this mini tutorial.
http://jimdinner.wordpress.com/2012/07/26/haltech-setup-step-by-step/ (http://jimdinner.wordpress.com/2012/07/26/haltech-setup-step-by-step/)
As far as joining the engine to the transmission, that easy.
This is a WORD document that has my notes on the adapter plate, flywheel and clutch that I am using.
http://stweb.peelschools.org/sssweb/TTI-WEB/cars/Adapter%20Notes%20and%20Tips.doc (http://stweb.peelschools.org/sssweb/TTI-WEB/cars/Adapter%20Notes%20and%20Tips.doc)
I have done this when looking for an engine;
Go on a local 'buy and sell' website and search for BMW stuff, seat, switches, mirrors..... Often you will find one or two guys that buy and part out old BMW's. Tell them what you are looking for.
I have also gone to local garages that specialize in BMW repair and ask if they know where you can find one.
I found three engines/ two cars this way. 1st was $500, 2nd was $600 and the 3rd (just engine) was $700.
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V12 forever..... I hope this year install my to chassis... ::LAMBO
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I thought it'd be easier to use oem stuff, dont know about aftermarket
looks like some work there
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just throwing this out there...
I think i am gonna change direction on the build and go with a porsche boxster transmission and a 2010+ infiniti v6 with 326hp, or a infiniti v8 engine.
I have a infiniti and absolutely love the reliability and the power it has out of the v6.
The engines are not that expensive, and there is a few places that do CUSTOM harnesses for the infiniti to work with the infiniti gas pedals with the wireless controls, etc. The only catch is the harness is just as expensive as the engine, due to it being PLUG and play.
The only other problem is that it needs a pressed flywheel ignition timing gear, which can be done, but just a lil more $.
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That's great, but your 6 cylinders short of what he's looking for...
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I totally understand just throwing it out there. 320+ hp is pretty good out of a naturally aspirated v6!
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I thought it'd be easier to use oem stuff, dont know about aftermarket
looks like some work there
It is very easy to use OEM wiring.
Here is a Word Doc about what wires you need and don't need from the stock BMW harness. It boils down to connecting two lights (Ck Eng and EML), the throttle pedal wires need extending, fuel pump, constant 12V and ignition.
http://stweb.peelschools.org/sssweb/TTI-WEB/cars/BMW%20750%20V12.doc (http://stweb.peelschools.org/sssweb/TTI-WEB/cars/BMW%20750%20V12.doc)
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easy???
lol! not for me!
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I am also using a vq35de Nissan engine from a 350z. 300 hp and it'll rev high. I like the looks of that v12 though. Good luck Tallon!
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Sooo, I was bidding on copart today and was excited to win a car on virtual auction and apparently the seller can send me a counter offer because I guess he didn't like how low it sold for. He offered twice what I won the auction for and I guess he doesn't have to sell it to me. He now has set a minimum bid of 2,500usd even though there was never a minimum bid for the lot. What BS
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I dont know anything about that auction site, but that sucks. I would read the rules and regulations, im sure he cant do that.
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Yea he was just trying to get more money out of me, he then accepted my offer. It's a 2000 audi a8 in florida so I bought it, the only v12 I could see is in CA so maybe next build :\
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So you got it?! That freaking sweet ::toothy You cant go wrong with a Audi motor, at least with the 8 cyl you will have a little room up front if you need to do any maintenance ::headbang
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Congratulations Bryan, are you going to use the transmission off that same car also? Do you need to get a different one? Let's see some pictures of the car you bought.
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I'll need to find a 2WD trans but at least I won't need an adapter
no damage to this car and supposedly runs and drives, no idea why it was salvaged
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It looks nice. You can part it out after removing the parts you need and hopefully make your money back!
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yeah that's what I need help with, do I call around to see if people need the parts and they come and get 'em? what about the shell?
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Advertise it on Craigslist and people will come to your place and buy the parts they need. Once you are done just call a junk yard and they will come get the body, just make sure you don't lose the title or bill of sale.
I think you made a wise choice getting the Audi, for some reason I think it will be much easier to get it running. Are you going to use all the electrical components from it and the wiring harness? This is what I am planning on doing.
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Oh yeah that's the reason I went with it, John talked me into it lol
I still would have gone with the v12 if I had found one. The one I was looking at is gone.
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Exactly what autopro said. Don't put a phone number on your listings! You'll get a million calls from tire kickers. I'm not sure about the junk yard but there are people that will pay you for the metal shell and haul it off.
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only 01e on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Audi-S4-Six-6-Speed-Transmission-EDU-1999-2000-2001-2001-5-01E-/130711735686?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e6f06cd86&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Audi-S4-Six-6-Speed-Transmission-EDU-1999-2000-2001-2001-5-01E-/130711735686?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e6f06cd86&vxp=mtr)
kinda pricey though
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try here:
http://austin.craigslist.org/ptd/3184028325.html (http://austin.craigslist.org/ptd/3184028325.html)
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Car was delivered yesterday...
man this car is nice! picture doesn't show it at all.
there's no dents or scratches the exterior looks like new and all the features the car has is crazy, tires are new. The only problem is it is slow in drive, runs nice in reverse so I guess it's a trans problem. I'm not sure how to fix an automatic but it seems like a shame to tear a part such a nice car. Someone told me to sell if for a few grand and buy another car.
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You get a good title? If so Flip it and make you some money for something else ::beers
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I'm not sure how to fix an automatic but it seems like a shame to tear a part such a nice car. Someone told me to sell if for a few grand and buy another car.
How much did you end up paying for the car? Don't start falling in love with it, tear it apart already >:(
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Yea it has an ohio title and plate is not even expired yet
It was $1150, + 300 shipping
I was sitting in it and it cooled instantly just sitting there and the next morning it sealed all the cool air in there still and it's hot outside. lol it's nice.
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Ill just give you your money back and pay for shipping ::beers you can find another ::tongue
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Bryan I don't remember if you bought your transmission yet or not but here is a list of the cars that have the one you can use. To make it even more confusing it’s hard to tell what the differences are in the 5HP-19 transmissions that you find in all of these cars:
Volkswagen Group — longitudinal engine transaxle, front-wheel drive
* 1996–2001 Audi A4 (B5) 2.8 V6
* 1997–2003 Audi A4 (B5) 1.8T
* 1997–1999 Audi A8 (D2) 3.7 V8
* 1998–2001 Audi A6 (C5) 2.8 V6
* 1998–2003 Volkswagen Passat GLS 1.8T
* 1998–2003 Volkswagen Passat GLS V6 2.8L
* 1998–2003 Volkswagen Passat GLX V6 2.8L
* 2003– Volkswagen Passat GL 1.8T
Did you notice the A8 with the front wheel drive? I have been looking for one of these but I can't find them.. Hopefully this list will help you find a less expensive alternative.
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Yes sir I got the 2.8 tiptronic it's from a passat, I'm hoping it will all work electronically, I bought the ecu for it as well. I don't know anything about aftermarket eng. management.
I'm also hoping it will hold up to the V8 I've been told it most likely won't but I'm giving it a try anyway, maybe as long as I don't abuse it.
I think the FWD A8 is rare probably not even in the US, it seems most people can't find one. Maybe because of the transmission problems? It seems they even break on the a6's.
I was reading on making it stronger but there's no info out there. All I can find is replacing the reverse/Ddrum with an aftermarket one that uses slightly thicker aluminum.
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You responded to my other thread I just noticed, yeah that's me but I don't think anyone on there knows anything about it.
I don't think I'd be able to use the 5hp24 anyway as that was the only thing wrong with the car. None of the gears works except reverse lol
I was waiting to see if I can learn a bit more before tearing the car apart but I ended up removing the exhaust, driveshaft, front bumper so far. Should only need to remove a few cables now when I'm ready for it. I'm trying to see how the darn center console comes apart.
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LOL ;D I thought that might be you!
I spoke to John yesterday on the same thing with the transmission and the engines and he told me about a guy that can reprogram the ECU so you should call him up and get that info.
I am just going to buy and 02-03 Passat 2.8 right now to use as a donor. I did manage to find the V8 here in the states but not at the auction.
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Will you be able to add paddle shifter to the tiptronic? Let me know if you can so when I get the Passat I will also get one with tiptronic.
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I heard it is easier to do paddle shift setups with tiptronic but I haven't looked into it yet. I wanted the automatic just so I can do that so I'll definitely do it one way or another. I was thinking all of them were tiptronic, not sure now that you say that.
The A* is tiptronic too and it has a sport mode type thing so you can shift it like a manual but with the stick. I'd imagine it could be incorporated with paddles the same way? I guess it's all electronic because the transmission seems pretty simple on the outside, but bunch of wires coming out.