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Opinions & Reviews => Vendor Feedback => Topic started by: Jadams on March 02, 2014, 08:41:25 PM
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Well the admin locked the 1st post because he felt it was getting out of hand but he also said he's locking it in hopes that a resolution could be reached. Well sadly NO RESOLUTION HAS BEEN MET ROBSLP640 continue to say he's broke and give him a couple months. However all robslp640 do is lie, I told him to just give me 2 full quality interior, OEM hood badge, and egear plate and he tells me that he needs a couple months to do that but keep in mind that robslp640 owe me 1 interior anyways. This guy is a complete scammer and all we do is help him to keep scamming certain people regardless of robslp640 SOMETIMING WAYS to deliver the fact is that a lot of honest people are getting scam by this guy and people still deal with him. Robslp640 OWE ME A REVENTON BODY AND INTERIOR. He doesn't try to fix what he has done. Robslp640 claims the Aventador he's got on eBay is Eddy and that maybe true because of the phone number associated with the Aventador on eBay. Now, we all knows Eddy reputation is horrible and when you put these two scammers ( Robslp640 & Eddy F. Wahba) together then you got a recipe for scammer 101 at its best. Am I wrong for wanting what I've already paid for 2 years ago. I will post everyday on here until I receive my paid reventon body. I hope the admin will allow me to push forward with this because it's not right. We all trying to build our passion and for guys like this to NOT be expose to future builders would be a great disservice. I just want what I've already paid for is this wrong?
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I am sorry to hear about your problem with Rob. As someone who may be interested in Rob's Aventador parts down the road, I will be watching this situation closely. I would like Rob to address this complaint and explain how he is going to make this right. I don't have any personal experience with Rob but I want to believe that most people want to do the right thing. I am hoping for a good resolution to this. Please keep us posted.
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I'm so sick and tired of this guy claiming he's broke but always selling stuff on eBay and not to mention he done a reventon and had it for sale on eBay. He told me it was a customer of his. I'm telling from the heart this guy robslp640 is a scammer. In 2 years he can't give me my money or a body in that span! We all just need yo stop dealing with these guys until they make right on things. Everytime we purchase something from these scammers like robslp640 & Eddy F. Wahba we give the future builders false tense that these guys are legitimate and subject them to a scam. I've been OVER PATIENCE with these guys and they take it for granted and never produce what they say the can produce!
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I understand your frustration. This section is available for this sort of thing. All of us as consumers have a right to know the experience other people have with vendors.
I understand you have been patient but I suggest giving Rob one more chance to do the right thing. You want a good resolution to this right? What would you like to see as an end result?
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I just want Robslp640 to give me my Reventon or Aventador body with complete interior. THSTS IT! It's already been paid for so I deserve it. 2 years and robslp640 tells me that he's broke or when I sell this I will take care of you. I've given robslp640 more than 2 years to make this right and he's been spitting in my face the entire time. Robslp640 have no intention of producing the stuff he scammed me for. We just need to stop these guys NOW!
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Fair enough. What if there is some reason he can't make the parts for you? Would you accept a refund? How much money are we talking about?
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Of course I will accept a refund. It would be for $5500.00. This guy robslp640 was given this option but he always says he broke or needs to sell some but never come through.
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OK, maybe you could post the link to the original thread here so we can refresh our memory. I may be mistaken but I thought Rob promised to make things right in that thread correct?
So now the questions for Rob are...Do you owe Jadams what he claims? If so, what are you willing to do to make this right? I know a lot of us will be interested to see what the response is. I am hopeful of a positive outcome. I am personally really interested in Rob's Aventador parts as my brother is planning an Aventador build in the future.
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Link posted.
http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=818.0 (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=818.0)
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Yes, I recall this particular issue now. Wow, this is very discouraging. I am disappointed that a year later, there has been no movement toward resolution of this problem. I know Rob has delivered in the past so I am perplexed. I urge him to come to a reasonable agreement with Jadams so this can be put to bed. It is a darn shame that this kind of stuff still happens. We should be able to do better than this.
Jadams, there were two recommendations for you to pursue legal action against Rob in the original thread. I think that is good advice. Unless Rob agrees to settle this here and now, I would suggest you do so as soon as possible.
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that sucks, dude for 80 grand you could have bought a gallardo cash. anyways, that was a long list of addons, not very realistic. oh well, hope you get this settled peacefully.
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I am sorry to hear about your problem with Rob. As someone who may be interested in Rob's Aventador parts down the road, I will be watching this situation closely. I would like Rob to address this complaint and explain how he is going to make this right. I don't have any personal experience with Rob but I want to believe that most people want to do the right thing. I am hoping for a good resolution to this. Please keep us posted.
He's been a lying and deceitful salesman for years I can't believe people still consider doing business with him and why he's still accepted by people on any forum.
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Tallon you are 100% correct robslp640 is nothing but a scammer and until we all start speaking up and shedding light on these scammers the will alway scam honest people. I think a lot of prow on ghis forum are honest for the most part but for the few that do scam remember karma is something you can't escape. These scammers don't care,
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Jadams - did you get the wheels and interior pieces robblp640 said he had waiting on a pallet in the other thread ?
Didnt rob take your reventon body and correct the deficiencies to make a driving car (the one in his videos with the iPad in the dash )
I suggest you retrieve that car as stolen property . Rob will lose all the work he put into it
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Jadams - did you get the wheels and interior pieces robblp640 said he had waiting on a pallet in the other thread ?
Didnt rob take your reventon body and correct the deficiencies to make a driving car (the one in his videos with the iPad in the dash )
I suggest you retrieve that car as stolen property . Rob will lose all the work he put into it
I belive the chassis is robs and but body is jadams. Depending on state laws it would be hard to prove it is stolen body. But can't do nothing about the chassis unless it is jadams and then he would have a title
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He sent me the wheels and that's it. I didn't receive anything else. He ensure I would have the body and interior after 30 days. That never came to fruitation. He told me that he would send me the Aventador body because some guy name Joe stole his molds. That never happen! Then all his excuses are ( I'm broke , give me 60 days, I can't pay my house payment, I need to sell this or that ) it's always an excuse . The fact is he's a scammer and it's proven. All I want is what I paid for ( period)! When I ask Rob about that Reventon in his video he said it was not my body but rather a customer he was selling for because the customer was dissatisfied with the motor and it not having power windows . " I KNOW TOO , THAT WAS BS TOO.
I have some legal things in the making but in Virginia it's hard to recover replica bodies. Plus this it's a length process that's already cost me 7k. I'm spending more on HOPE than what the body actually cost. My lawyer trying to fix it to where I can basically sue his SSN. Thanks to all you guys for showing concerns. It's a sense of releif to know you guys exist. You guys are amazing with very geniune and high morals. Thanks again!
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Just curious about something. How many people on this forum had a bad experience with robslp640 or someone of his caliber? I know we have a section for vendor experience, however I know some vendors might not have made the list for whatever reason. I want to know the experience even if the vendor eventually produce the item and what was his reason. I want to compile my personal list from people with direct experience with scammers such as robslp640 & Eddy F. Wahba.
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He said he has 6 figures, wow robslp640 is broke and don't have anything. The guy lives off honest buyers and somehow keep finding people willing to buy from the him. Batbuilder I think he is still waiting on rob to give him his body. It's been over 3 yrs for him, my goodness robslp640 is a scammer!
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Like eating Cheeze Whiz on styrofoam balls.
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Just an interesting update from my end. I received the wheels the were part of the purchase that we tried to make with Rob (scammer). However I had to pay a company in Phoenix to go to his place and get them and ship them to me at my cost. We have still not received the Reventon body that he agreed to make for us.
ROB IS A SCAM ARTIST DO NOT GIVE HIM ANYTHING, HE WILL ONLY STEAL FROM YOU.
Fieroking
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Fiero King, and J Adams seems to be scam artists, fake ordering some parts, not paying for parts, not picking parts up, and posting false accusations. Anyone can post anything, the fact remains, I shipped parts, shipping was not paid on other, promises were made Buy these scammers. The truth shall set u free!!!
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why, why, why ???
why do you guys keep sending people thousands of dollars without seeing and touching the goods first ? lazy, cheap ??
Man before i give a guy with a very shady reputation 10 g's i am hopping on a plane and picking up the parts myself !
i don't care what promises he made or videos posted. Common sense is common sense. This industry is ripe with scammers, why help them to flourish?
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Fieroking has really been patience with what we both have been going through with robslp640. We are 2 guys eagered to build our dream car but there are DISHONEST SCAMMERS like ROBSLP640 that set out to set up back and steal money. Fieroking and I have given robslp640 more than enough time to produce a body or refund. Robslp640 clearly can't produce a body to us because of his lack of resource and financial crisses ( so that's what he says.) Anyone that knows robslp640 knows he's a snake,mistake, and will take. Robslp640 proclaims to be the best in the kitcar world but how is that when he a scammer? We are probably never going to retrieve any body from robslp640 , it's been. 2 years and robslp640 can produce as of today's date . Anyone looking to purchase a body please stay away and DONT BUY ANYTHING FROM ROBSLP640!
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Myself and Fieroking don't sell replica bodies to people. That's first. The fact of the matter is that robslp640 owes us a reventon or Aventador body and hasn't produced it in 2 years. So with just that WHY can't or haven't he produced it? Robslp640 have no answers to just that question. He also promise us that he would switch it with the Aventdor ( checkout the link) http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=1358.0 (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=1358.0)
The only question all these members want to know is why haven't you produce a body for a customer that has already paid for their product? You stole from Jadams & Fieroking so how does that make us a scammer (is robslp640 desperate and a lair)lol. Not one member on this or any forum created can find one bad word about Fieroking or myself. However robslp640 is all over with negative feedback and scammer attached to him. ROBSLP640, MAKE IT CLEAR TO THE LAMBOCLONE FAMILY TO WHY WE DONT HAVE S BODY WE PAID YOU FOR?
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Oh did u forger to mention I refunded u back 3,000 plus u received about 5,000 in rims and ties, let's be honest not J why don't u tell Joe Fiero King I send u the money, cuz ur a scam artist and ur playing games.
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5,000 for rims and tires.
Anyone making a deal for 5k rims and tires is a fool.
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Anyone that knows robslp640 knows he's a snake,mistake, and will take.
Hey, this isn't really Jesse Jackson is it? ;) Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Seriously, I feel for you.
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Really, replicated reventon rims, specially cut, stretched to exact dimensions or real rims. U must not know rims. Just to cut and add 4 1/2 to them is over 2,000
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Roblp640 you haven't sent me one dime. If you sent me any money post the receipt showing it. You are a complete lair. You have no other defense but to say you sent me money , the members here know you a scam and that tactic won't work. You never sent me anything and you know it . I can't believe your mom raised a person like you. Show everyone on the forum proof that you sent me money. Lamboclone if the scammer ( robslp640) can produce geniune documents that he sent me anything ALL MEMBERS CAN BASH MY NAME ALLOVER THE WEB.
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Oh did u forger to mention I refunded u back 3,000 plus u received about 5,000 in rims and ties, let's be honest not J why don't u tell Joe Fiero King I send u the money
Well this should be very easy to prove if you sent him back $3000 because there are online statements and receipts for anything financial
Prove you refunded $3000 and your credibility will be restored rob
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robslp640( scammer) can't produce any statement proving he sent me $3000. He's been texting me since yesterday until now threating to call my job and get me fired if I don't delete my thread. Him saying he refunded me money just dug him a hole because that's a complete lie and everyone knows this guy is a lair and scammer. What's crazy is he owes me and calls me a scammer. I want what's mine and he's got an issue with that. In time people will recognize him for the lair and scammer he is. Members keep emailing me so I can keep sending the screen shots of me and robslp640 convo a couple days ago so he can keep confirming that he is a liar. He makes himself look so foolish. I enjoy your support members!
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Rob, I hope you can come up with proof of payment.
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Oh what, what's this, the exact amount, wait a pic of my bank Account, really, yes really. Of wait, look at the date, yes it was even a while back, boo Ya
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Wait let me guess, um u didn't get it, or it got lost, or the dog ate it. Always excuses. These forums and people creating drama when 90% Of people on here never even worked on a replica.
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Rob i have wells fargo too, that screen shot doesn't say where the money went to .
It looks like a transfer between your own accounts , because the online transfer from "sonoran fire" shows a third party transfer.
You need to post the screen showing where the transfer went to . Either fiero king or joey adams.
You'll probably have to use your computer because the mobile version website won't show the detail
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You transfer your "way to save" money to where your other account. You can't produce any document showing you sent me anything oh and NO the dog didn't eat it nor did you ever send any money. Show who you sent money to. You posting a picture of a transfer from way to save transaction from your accounts isn't proof. You can't get out of this one scammer. If it was ok for me to show you some of the emails I'm getting from you guys y'all know this scammer like a book. Robs upset now saying 90% of member here never own a replica it's probably because you scammed them out their money too. The members that I email screenshots to pay attention to the timeline" how did he claim to send money when he said me way broke. Why is it that robslp640 is always the one claiming people scam him after the fact when he's exposed sorry Rob try again show the name of who you transfer money to.
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Rob i have wells fargo too, that screen shot doesn't say where the money went to .
It looks like a transfer between your own accounts , because the online transfer from "sonoran fire" shows a third party transfer.
You need to post the screen showing where the transfer went to . Either fiero king or joey adams.
You'll probably have to use your computer because the mobile version website won't show the detail
TUSABES,Thanks for seeing through the BS. Oh my robslp640 you really stuck your foot in your mouth with that desperate move, WE NEED TO SEE YOUR PROOF PLEASE. We WILL WAIT! I expect robslp640 to start bashing members now to deflect the subject at hand. Members don't fall for it nor let him off the hook to prove what he said he sent. Rob these member are smarter than you think. Now post something saying you don't have to prove anything to is or just not post anymore because it's checkmate.
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I didn't think Jadams would be so cocky if there really were statements somewhere proving this ;) At least I hope not. Not too easy to lose them these days being electronic and all...
Whether the transaction is real or not... why is it only until Feb 27, 2014 that he attempts to make some kind of right, when obviously this dispute has been going on for quite some time.
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THE FUNDS WERE TRANSFERED TO PAYPAL, PayPal is sending me a copy and verification of money received, and veryfying his email. This is the screen shot then. I will up date once paypal contacts me back. ANYTHING ELSE!!!!
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Yeah, I've got something else.
These forums and people creating drama when 90% Of people on here never even worked on a replica.
Who is "creating drama"? You allegedly stole someone's hard earned money. You don't think your potential future customers have a vested interest in the validity of that claim? We don't have a right to know the truth about this transaction? That is a pretty arrogant position for a vendor to take.
So let me get this straight, you TRY to insult and intimidate your potential future customers because of course that will put their minds at ease? Uh-huh, makes perfect sense to me. Who gives a flip if anyone here has built as many cars as you? I hope you can prove you refunded Jadams but either way I'm not impressed with your response. Not impressed at all.
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Tallon, I'm just trying to get what's mine. I don't want anything more. I know robslp640(scammer) haven't sent me any money nor is he trustworthy. What makes this so sad is that at first when rob and I made the deal I did everything prompt and was straight up with my transaction. The guy robslp640 gave me the run around for 2 yr and he could've at least sent me any body. I told him at one point to just send me Murci body and he couldn't do that. Rob says a lot of us never own a replica and that maybe true but we trying to make an effort to build a dream and he turns it to a nightmare. That's the reason why replicas never get done. Why don't rob just produce and let people talk about how he was instrumental in the success of that project. He don't have to do what did to Fieroking and me but he chose to. Now that he told a lie I know I may never get anything now because now rob has to live up to that lie. At this point he want apologize and say he was sorry for all this stuff going on, he rather live a lie.
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That isn't my my email address.
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Ok guys.. I'm locking this thread and I'll ask both of you to not start another one on this topic. I've merged this and the other topic about jadams and Robslp640 together into one topic.
My advice for two guys who feels the other owes them money and has a strong case... Settle It In Court!
Warnings are always appreciated however ranting about it on this site will not resolve anything and just drag everyone into a situation that is only solved via legal proceedings.
The thin line between a warning to others and launching a personal attack was crossed a while ago.
Chris
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ucyimd1@live.com
Will keep members posted on forum or PM!
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STILL NO PROGRESS WITH GETTING ANYTHING FROM ROBSLP640.
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And u will get nothing because I owe u nothing, tell them about the rims and tires I sent u, stop lying
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Rob your march 6 screenshot showing an alleged payment of $3000 to Jadams was an admission you owed him money, specifically $3000. To now say you don't owe him anything is a bold faced lie. We already know he got the wheels. You acknowledge there was a further $3000 debt after he got the wheels.
you even tried to claim you paid it, with the screenshot which we know you never did click to actually send .
With that admission , and screenshot, it is an admission of monies owed, he doesnt need further proof, he can now go to court and recover . Of course if you claim You are broke , he will end up with an uncollectable judgment against you.
It is unfortunate you conduct your business affairs this way rob
THE FUNDS WERE TRANSFERED TO PAYPAL, PayPal is sending me a copy and verification of money received, and veryfying his email. This is the screen shot then. I will up date once paypal contacts me back. ANYTHING ELSE!!!!
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Rob we have told the members that you sent the wheels and tires. Fieroking have already posted that on this forum. It took us 1 year to get that. You still owe us a Rev body or Aventador. It's pointless to hope you do the right thing now because you have lied about everything when it comes to sending our body that if you gave us what we paid for then members will know you're a scammer, so now you have to continue this cycle of lying. You completely and deliberately tried to cloud potential customers with your lies. You claim to have send a refund but can't produce a simple PayPal invoice stating that, these members are smarter than you give them credit for. You can keep this up but in your heart you know you are wrong and it's uncall for. I just simply wanted to build my dream the way you did am I wrong for that? You know it takes trustworthy people to complete these builds why are you turning my dream into a nightmare. I never done anything but everything I said I would do as far as the purchase goes. You are wrong and you know it.
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Just a point. I received the wheels which we agreed on for $1500.00, (no tires we didn't want the tires) and I had to pay to have them picked up from your place and boxed and shipped. Cost me $400.00 for 4 wheels in shipping.
Joe Sokol (Fieroking)
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Fieroking it's a unfortunate situation with robslp640 to delay a build that we should've completed by now. Robslp640 you could still produce and show an intergity side that you probably had when you where producing bodies for paid customers. You are choosing to do this out of spite or for whatever reason. No matter what we don't deserve this. You still can do the right thing and produce a body or refund. If you produce either I will delete the thread as well as retract the negative feedback, and lastly I will post positive. I won't disclose to the forums what happen or the arrangement. Just all positive interaction.
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This right here proves ur lying, I can call machinist, it cost 800 per rim, just to cut them and stretch the, add the four inches and Weld them back together. plus the 1800 I paid for the rims, plus the 1300 something I paid for the tires, the rear tires are what 295, maybe 315 but it saying I gave u free Tires, lol sure cuz I'm in the business of giving away tires. Ur such a scammer, u scammer Eddy the same way, difference is u can keep posting and talking poopie, the facts are the facts.
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The only thing that this proves is that you are very bad a grammar.
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Because I said wheels and tires that makes me a liar. Memebers we only received rims from robslp640. He steal owes us a reventon or Aventador body. It's been 2 years and as of this message we still haven't received a body. Again all the members that sent emails thank you and I can't tell you guys and ladies how much it meant. I can try to fight the scammer ( robslp640) all day but he will continue to lie and we want get our body so robslp640 you scammed another customer in myself and got away with it. I JUST HOPE MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE SCAMMER ROBSLP640 HELPS FUTURE CUSTOMERS BEAWARE.
Don't let the scammer (robslp640) video fool or encourage you to buy from robslp640!!!
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Jadams, I don't believe there is anyone on robs side of this. The bogus paypal refund picture was the last nail in his coffin. He's clearly not going to help you in anyway without taking him to court. It's really unfortunate that people are so dishonest and have no issue stealing peoples money. Last but not least, any grown man that says "poopie", clearly has issues and cannot be trusted....
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SchulzeA thanks for the encouragement. I just wanted to build my dream car. I want let the scammer ( robslp640) stop me!
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Last but not least, any grown man that says "poopie", clearly has issues and cannot be trusted....
You win the prize SchulzeA, I was wondering how many people would catch that. ::thumbup
Anyone that tries to post the word four letter slang word for crap will find that the forum automatically flags it and changes it to "poopie". There are a few more of these out there that help us maintain some decency on the site. I figure that anyone that can't control themselves enough on a public forum should automatically have their words changed to something more appropriate, but expresses the same meaning that they struggled to find the right word for.
I have a teenage nephew that visits this site and follows many of the topics. I'm sure he's not the only young adult that has the dream of building a car someday. There are others on this site with strong religions beliefs and we owe them to maintain a site thats suitable for everyone.
I have and will continue to maintain a thin line on language and nudity and the rules for the site are clearly defined at the membership agreement page and in the rules section.
Chris
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this thread is poopie.
edit: its works ::thumbup
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Trying to get in before the shut!
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I agree this thread is poopie, BS, like they say the truth comes out in the end. Anyone else wanna claim I scanned them, now's ur chance. Out of hundreds of customers I guess it's u u jadams huh!!!
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i was scanned...and then cloned.... now people are out there pretending to be me.... ::K
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Robslp640 all you have to do is show the lamboclone members a invoice from PayPal showing you sent me money. It's really simple, please produce it. No one on this forum believes you scammer ( robslp640). PRODUCE THE RECIEPT / INVOICE.
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Nobody believes Rob anymore. He has lied too many times. All his posts are just bragging and slinging insults at others. Too bad for him. I probably would have told my brother to get his Aventador parts from him. No way I would ever do that now.
Edit: Rob, if you make things right with Jadams and BatBuilder, I may reconsider my position.
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BigPines thank you for KNOWING I'm telling the truth.
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sucks I wanted an Aventador...
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I'm sure in a little time there will be better sources, like with everything else....
everyone's getting so impatient with the new models it leads to problems like - this thread (http://blogsfornatalee.com/forum/Smileys/classic/hairpull.gif) It's the most popular THREAD lately ::scratch
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I think ppl get inpatient because if they don't spend the money on a car right now they will spend the money some where else. Lol
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Solrac , I think that too maybe the case in some instances, however in this situation, because this scammer( robslp640) was so convincing and supposedly eagered to sell us a body, Fieroking & I learned a valuable lesson. When I state that we was 100% up front with robslp640 we where. I know deep down robslp640 knows he is wrong and he has done and said things that if he tried to make it right it would expose him to everything we said. I've never see someone just take a 100% lying stance.
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At this point, what I am about to say is merely conjecture, but being a business person, I am gonna take a stab at it. I will not use names.
Person A took money from Person B with the understanding that there would be a finished product received as a result. However, Person A already had transactions outstanding with persons C, D, E, etc. that Person A no longer had the funding to complete. Due to missappropriation, project budget over-runs, or straight theft, Person A was taking funding from new clients to meet the obligations already owed to prior parties. In the end, it seems like Person B is the one left holding the bag of poopie (a word I love to use SchulzeA and I do consider myself trustworthy. Something about it just grabs the attention of grown men and says, "Hey, this guy knows his poopie!")
Does that sound about like what may have happened in this case? If so, Person A has a lot more issues to deal with than just a failed obligation. Person A is running a Ponzi Scheme of sorts, which is a whole other criminal matter in itself.
Person B, I am sorry. You seem like a great hypothetical person and I hate to see someone get scammed. I think you need to involve the courts at this point as others have said because Person A will continue to do this until they are in so far that bankruptcy is their only option. At which time you will receive poopie.
PS - I am a scanned Digibeam replica, but only on the weekends.
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I could use a few scans of myself right now come to think of it... anyone selling?
::K
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Digi: Do you want fries with that??
Cmarens: You left out the first chapter prior to Person A but that's another can of worms also. Also inbetween Chapter One and Chapter 2, you can insert the fact that a large portion of Lamboclone membership advised Person B NOT to go dealing with Person A. Did Person B listen.....NO. Facts are facts, Jack! If you are tired of drinking lemonade......Quit buying lemons.
Don't you just LOVE a Soap Opera..............NO.
Please pass the styrofoam balls and the cheeze whiz. Thanks OH, and some popcorn would be super, too. ::scratch ::bounce :LL:
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Silly guys lol. I'm sure Person B had already committed to buy from Person A prior to knowing that facts about Person A. I'm certain if Person B knew Person A was a untrustworthy person that Person B would've never dealt with Person A. Person B has learned a valuable lesson.
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I could use a few scans of myself right now come to think of it... anyone selling?
::K
I rent pretty cheap. Will work in trade for knowledge. How about this - you let me have some wrench time with you and we can call it good. You get work done on your vehicle, I learn more about the "how tos" and we are all happy. Well, except the wives. Their to-do list will be put aside which will undoubtedly cause some yelling, which will cause headache, which will call for beer. Win-Win-Win all around I say!
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Ok fellas going to leave this open till morning then lock it. I have my conclusions as to what needs to happen but felling doubtful that right will come of this unfortunately. If there are any updates from the parties involved I will unlock this and let further comments be made.
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That was a very astute observation by Cmarens and I do not think it takes much of a crystal ball to see ahead a little further. Persons C, D, and E were involved BEFORE B. We know from this and other Forums that there is at least persons F and G that have become involved AFTER B, and for a great deal more money. Mr. B should now be far enough down the Ponzi to be paid. I know this is no consolation to B, but the poopie bag that he was left holding is relatively small amount. My crystal ball says that this is going to get much bigger.
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Ok fellas going to leave this open till morning then lock it. I have my conclusions as to what needs to happen but felling doubtful that right will come of this unfortunately. If there are any updates from the parties involved I will unlock this and let further comments be made.
You're the moderator, but personally I think that the more light we shine on these situations the better, even if it's upsetting and distasteful to read.
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Dratt when I met you and Fieroking in Idaho you guys where great to me and it's was a great pleasure to met both you guys? How's the car riding?
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Dratt when I met you and Fieroking in Idaho you guys where great to me and it's was a great pleasure to met both you guys? How's the car riding?
still works in progress. Mostly the doors. I need to rehang them with new hinges and install working glass windows. Always something, but I always get it on the road during the summer. Here comes summer! I'm losing hope for you in your dealings with Rob. Sorry about that.
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Ok fellas going to leave this open till morning then lock it. I have my conclusions as to what needs to happen but felling doubtful that right will come of this unfortunately. If there are any updates from the parties involved I will unlock this and let further comments be made.
You're the moderator, but personally I think that the more light we shine on these situations the better, even if it's upsetting and distasteful to read.
I agree with Dustin that the thread should be locked and what could be said on this topic has been said and it's now just being repeated. I'll remind everyone again that this site cannot resolve the legal problems those issues should be resolved in court. There are two sides to every story and we've all heard them both. Everyone has been warned about dealing with everyone involved and I believe they've created enough reasonable doubt one another that will keep many from dealing with either one.
Chris
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I agree with admin, and moderator, if jadams or any other party has a issue with me, please use the legal system. I infact challenge jadams to take legal action and let's deal with this in Court.
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Robslp640 you don't have to scam me. You doing this because....why. Fieroking and I have been truthfully with you from day one. If you find it in your heart to make this right , I will welcome the product.
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Why won't u let the courts decide this, what are u afraid of, the truth. Please if u feel unsatisfied use the legal system, that's what it's designed for. Prove to the forum and the courts that u paid me and never received what was agreeded upon.
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Wow robslp640. Can you screenshot the PayPal invoice that you sent me money that you claim to have done. I think the members will have some type of satisfication.
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I kind of agree with the mods that this is not going to be solved here. Rob will be essentially out of business anyway. Sad because we really do need all the providers we can get. So stupid though, he could have just done the right thing and stayed in business. Is there ANYONE here who would want to do business with him now?
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Jadams, rob has told you to take him to court. You have the proof you need to show he owed you $3000 right here in this thread , from his own admission
you don't need any other contract or proof , he had said he refunded you $3000 plus gave you $5000 worth of rims. He even posted two fake screenshots from Wells Fargo and PayPal attempting to show he sent $3000 somewhere
I don't know why you're expecting him to post more fake screenshots of refunds he never actually sends to you ,post internal transfers between his own accounts , or PayPal screenshots that are not the actual sent money receipt,etc.
all you guys are doing is playing Internet games now .
You're definitely not going to get a penny out of him by bumping this thread with your grievance , and its cluttering the evidence you need to get a judgment in your favor
There are companies in AZ that will prepare and serve the small claims summons on rob if you aren't familiar with the courts. Then after you win you can hire a sheriff or judgment collector to seize his assets including all the cars he posts on eBay . He titles them in his own name
If he wants to file bankruptcy that will cost him at least $2000
He has made it extremely clear he is never going to voluntarily refund you a penny and is challenging you to sue him , and you show you aren't going to do anything but complain online, therefore he isn't taking you seriously either
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Thanks Tusabes, you have been a big help and I'm going to see what happens with this court thing.