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Title: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: william on August 06, 2014, 04:31:39 AM
Ok I'm new and I work so much I barely have had a chance to really read the rules so hopefully you guys can forgive me. I live in Colorado and I want to have a lamborghini built for me, I been researching like crazy trying to get an idea of what I'm looking at paying out to have this done.

I don't need any real speed because the car will mostly be used in the display room of my shop so it will mostly be used for looks. I am just curious if anyone could reference me to a builder who is reliable and let me know what I'm looking at paying just a rough guess. Like I was saying just overall looks don't need anything spectacular. 

If I posted in the wrong section I apologies thanks.
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: am33r on August 06, 2014, 04:41:42 AM
welcome to the board.

Can you us more on what you want your Lamborghini to look like and what donor car you will be using.  Also, what options do you want and how soon do you want one.

Did you consider buying one that is already built?
What's your reason for showcasing it in the show room?

have a great day man  ::wave
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: william on August 06, 2014, 04:47:11 AM
It's a little small car shop, I know it will get the attention of customer's, I am located in a secluded area so just using it as a reason for customers who do come in to say "yes that one shop". The body style I'm looking for is the 2010 I could probably wing the interior myself as I have done some things like this already.  So whatever way is the cheapest as  I am not really planing on driving it for speed.
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: william on August 06, 2014, 04:49:11 AM
Oh yes and the donor car really depends,  my knowledge of this is still horrible, I heard mr2 is used but I don't know exactly if that would help me on keeping the cost down..
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: william on August 06, 2014, 04:53:17 AM
Sorry for all the replying, I would like to get started now, I have a guy who I believe is a reliable source but I haven't fully been able to get that full trust factor with him, I'm supposed to fly out and meet with him soon. He said 25k I seen some of his work it wasn't bad but again trust is an issue,  and he wanted half up front. I rather work it out differently.
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: exoticse on August 06, 2014, 09:10:49 AM
Who is this supposedly reliable person you are talking about ?? A loooooot of scammers out there. Name him and i am sure the forum members can offer some insight.
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: william on August 06, 2014, 09:23:20 AM
The guy I have been speaking with his name is Rob, he Owens this one IMG 7049 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvhgMpkk9j4#ws) and he builds them or has a guy, we haven't fully worked out the details yet but I know what you mean by scams.

I spoke to the owner of that super cars site in person and automatically read scam just from the garbage he was feeding me lol. But this guy seems legit this is not the first Lambo video he has on the Internet and both of the videos I seen were both in his driveway.  Of course I will not do any transaction until I fully know it's safe.

But that's why I'm here trying to shop around and ask all of you guys for a little help directing me.
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: Digibeam on August 06, 2014, 11:48:08 AM
His name is..... Rob...... Hmmmm. Where have I heard that name before?
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: Tallon on August 06, 2014, 12:14:22 PM
There are discussions on here about two Rob's "robbing" people, one of them being the one you talked to. Apparently just because you fly out to their home, eat dinner with their family, it doesn't mean they won't take your money and judging by other's experiences, you can't do much about it. The car doesn't look much like a lambo anyway. The safe way is to build it yourself, we're a little lower on resources in the replica industry when comparing to the kit car industry. If you don't have time to research, it's probably a bad idea to jump in to this being unsure. These forums will be your ONLY source of info, you can't just search google and find a real builder, sadly. It sucks to see people get scammed, even when they were warned.

I assume you meant you wanted a murcielago?
For your purpose I'd say go with a diablo or countach, at least it will look more like the car it's resembling. I think the murcielago requires more work, attention to detail especially if your budget is low and there are too many really inaccurate bodies out there for it.
I'd be just as impressed to see a diablo in your shop..
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: timmer on August 06, 2014, 01:33:55 PM
Welcome to the room.  Yes take that advise and stay away from Rob
I'm just going to ask because if your looking for a car that bring attention , my diablo draws a crowd all the time. She won best in class at the World of Wheels in March up in Omaha    All complete and runs great. But I'm asking 40,000 for her.   

Let me know. 
Tim.
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: satinta on August 06, 2014, 01:59:06 PM
I don't know who Antony Fasone is but he is the one posting the videos. One thing is for sure, there are no neighborhoods in the phoenix area that look like that. Way too green.
I don't think these vids have anything to do with robslp640.

Maybe it's a different Rob.
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: Tallon on August 06, 2014, 02:31:05 PM
Well that was robreezy's car that's been posted several times here right? and had everyone on a national watch for it lol
But either way, avoid the name Rob
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: Jadams on August 06, 2014, 04:11:38 PM
Robslp640 is a complete scammer don't BUY even if you go meet him. He scammed me please see my "Vendor Feedback"! PLEASE DONT TRUST ROBslp640
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: solrac on August 06, 2014, 04:25:53 PM
I actually think that is am33r mechanic. I remember he posted a vid of that guy standing on the to show it wasn't wobbling. Also he likes to built them on mr2 and no fiero.
From what I heard about this guy is only bad things. Pm if u want me to get u in contact with someone who did business with him and got screwed over by rob, and I believe he is up in Stockton , CA
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: william on August 06, 2014, 06:44:44 PM
Thanks everyone for the heads up and looking out for me to make sure I don't get scammed, I talked to robslp640 he claimed everyone is haters trying to take his buisness. But I'm with you guys on this one,  definitely somethings not right. I spoke to another rob who I was supposed to be doing business with, his name is Rob Stuart.  Does anyone know anything about this Rob? This rob referenced me to a guy named Mike Vetter. When I asked Mike about both robs, he said LP rob is definitely a scam and but other rob isn't too reliable either. So anybody know this Rob Stuart guy? Sometimes goes by Anthony
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: william on August 06, 2014, 06:46:06 PM
Rob Stuart is supposedly in Missouri
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: Fatboyslim on August 07, 2014, 12:25:58 AM
William, my name is randy i was in your exact position when i first started looking to find a builder. Do yourself a favor, go back and look at a reply on this thread from a guy named tallon, he gave you great advice that you should listen to and that is to build your own. Its fun and you learn as you go with help from this forum along the way. Your odds of getting scammed if you look for a builder are VERY high. Roblp640 in arizona burned me for $53,000. thought you should know this. Either build your own or buy a car thats partially built as i did and take over from there. If you have no time to build then buy a car thats already built. Just dont hire anyone to build you a car or else we will all be saying "told you so". that green Diablo from Timmer looks like a great deal i also have a Diablo and a lp640 for sale for the same price. Pm me if you want to see pics. Just be careful and read all these threads you will be glad you did.  ::thumbup
                        Randy
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: william on August 07, 2014, 03:47:16 AM
Hey Randy thanks for the advice,  I am actually starting to consider that with the amount of feedback I have received on here. Is this website the real deal http://www.carkitinc.com/access.php (http://www.carkitinc.com/access.php)
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: Purple LP670 SV on August 07, 2014, 04:32:16 AM
Yes, they are the real deal! I have not purchased from them but do know that if you buy from them you will get a kit! Also there is a guy in Michigan that I've been told will deliver!
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: Tallon on August 07, 2014, 08:08:19 AM
I've purchased my murcy-2 body from CKI and so have many others. Jackie is a nice guy and will answer your questions but it is still smart to pick up your parts in person because you may end up missing parts or receive a lesser quality body. You get what you pay for though.
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: Digibeam on August 07, 2014, 11:39:38 AM
I also bought my body from Jackie..... Sent everything he said he would and it was ready when he said it would be ready, I would look at his videos with a grain of salt, but then, he isn't a builder and by no means the producer of the bodies, but as a business man he sells his product very well and keeps the deal he makes.
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: Tallon on August 07, 2014, 03:28:34 PM
A successful delivery is nice to hear! And you've got quite some distance from them. Maybe it depends how busy they are.
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: am33r on August 07, 2014, 05:09:12 PM
I actually think that is am33r mechanic. I remember he posted a vid of that guy standing on the to show it wasn't wobbling. Also he likes to built them on mr2 and no fiero.
From what I heard about this guy is only bad things. Pm if u want me to get u in contact with someone who did business with him and got screwed over by rob, and I believe he is up in Stockton , CA

Solrec who did the mechanic I worked with scam? That is impossible!
The guy goes out of his way to help and charges so little for great work! He will do all he can with what you give him - I will take my car out of the garage and post more pics from last year to show his work this coming week.
You might have heard something wrong or unreliable or missing crucial details or just wrong and immoral or someone blaming him for their own short-coming!

William: $25K can make something beautiful out of an MR2, and in so little of a time! Again, once I take my car out I will post pics soon.

Of course in no way am I telling you to go for that mechanic, but you may judge for yourself.  Check my build diary to see the work (the diary is short and simple to follow).
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: solrac on August 07, 2014, 08:44:15 PM
I actually think that is am33r mechanic. I remember he posted a vid of that guy standing on the to show it wasn't wobbling. Also he likes to built them on mr2 and no fiero.
From what I heard about this guy is only bad things. Pm if u want me to get u in contact with someone who did business with him and got screwed over by rob, and I believe he is up in Stockton , CA

Solrec who did the mechanic I worked with scam? That is impossible!
The guy goes out of his way to help and charges so little for great work! He will do all he can with what you give him - I will take my car out of the garage and post more pics from last year to show his work this coming week.
You might have heard something wrong or unreliable or missing crucial details or just wrong and immoral or someone blaming him for their own short-coming!

William: $25K can make something beautiful out of an MR2, and in so little of a time! Again, once I take my car out I will post pics soon.

Of course in no way am I telling you to go for that mechanic, but you may judge for yourself.  Check my build diary to see the work (the diary is short and simple to follow).
I never said he scammed someone and also I am not 100% sure it is him in that vid. But there is a member here that lives close by to me that is getting a car built by ure mechanic and from what he told me it wasn't that good of a job.
Plz don't get offended I am just putting what I heard.
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: am33r on August 07, 2014, 10:34:35 PM
You said "from what I heard about this guy is only bad things".

What did you hear? why can't you be transparent? why not tell us? why do you have to only pm william? and what are the bad things you heard?

Yea?! And your source is RELIABLE? HAS GOOD REPUTATION? MORAL? HAS A CONTRACT THAT WAS VIOLATED? CREDIBLE? AND WHAT TYPE OF CREDIBILITY?

Please answer all that so we learn about your methodology of verifying the truth!

Did you hear a story from both sides? or third parties? did you seek the whole truth?

I am not offended - I am shocked that i let someone like that work on my car!

So tell us what you KNOW (AKA you can back up with facts that are undeniable)
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: solrac on August 07, 2014, 10:49:05 PM
I am sure u know who it is. It's not my business what happen bewteen them nor should I be urs.  But if u really know ure mechanic then u will know who he is and u should be asking. Unless u really don't know ure mechanic then by all means just ask him.
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: solrac on August 07, 2014, 10:55:56 PM
Actually looking at the post u do know who I am talking about since u posted on his thread. So there u go all ure questions has been answered
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: am33r on August 08, 2014, 01:16:03 AM
I get it.

I am not suggesting that the mechanic i chose works on any car I am just standing up to the non-sense and unacceptable behavior.

So here I will TEACH YOU THE TRUTH though it seems you've been a victim to selective hearing!

HAVE YOU MET TRANSCEND?

Transcend is a THIEF

And he will receive justice sooner or later - I will make it top priority of mine that it happens.

How is he a credible source?

Did he tell you that Seth rented a trailer at his own expense and paid for gas and drove 6 hours to Southern CA to pick up a car that doesn't even role.  He had to find ways to load it onto the trailer on his own because that car has no axles and missing a million component, then drove 6 hours back again to bring the car here. He charged $200 for his time to deliver the car! which is an unheard of number to drive a total of 800 miles to pick up a car.  He didn't even get paid when he got there, I paid him when he got back, then two days later Dennis paypal'ed me the money to pay him a partial for his work.  He then replaced the warped sub frame on the car for free once Dennis bought one. A while after that he wasted more time to drive to Sacramento and buy used parts for the car just so it rolls properly.  The Mechanic even gave my MR2 rear tires to him for free so the car rolls in a way that it can be stretched symmetrically because his wheels are bent and has a doughnut wheel too.  Transcend was so cheap he didn't want to buy the used set for $50.

Did he start his story with that?

Did he tell you he was cheap and didn't know what he was doing?

Did he tell you he doesn't have a proper fuel pump he needs to use (which is why the tank isnt installed) and therefore the other pipes afterwards?

Did he tell you he delayed what could take a month t become 6 months because he was always out of money? forcing my mechanic to work on the car in two more places after he moved?

Did he tell you he withdrew money from my paypal account for the storage I paid on his behalf and the towing I paid on his behalf and the $200 the mechanic spent on little things to help put that engine in that car safely?

He also withdrew from my paypal the $800 he sent to the mechanic to install the drive train in? After I paid the guy!

Did he tell you that I got a city notice of citation because the car remained in my driveway while he awaits to have money to buy an engine setup? Then at the end I cleared my entire garage to store his car for more time till he towed it back to So Cal?

Did he tell you that I advised him many times on doing things the right way and he refused and decided to do what he wants although its illegal, weird, and just plain ridiculous?

Did he tell you he paid exactly for what he asked?

Did he tell you I paid for whatever he needed then he paid me afterwards? Did he tell you I never charged him a dime to help him?

Did he tell you he came by to my place and inspected his car prior to dropping the engine in and simply approved of all work done?

Believe him all you want and spread the non-sense around.  I know the truth and I have no problem with transparency an I will call BS when I see it.

On the other hand seth the mechanic has done incredible work for me and for exactly what Transcend asked to be done to his car.  I saw and was there throughout.

SHOW US THE VIDEO AND LET US SEE WHAT HE HAS TO SAY! I WILL PUT HIM I HIS PLACE.

your source didn't pay to have someone build a car for him; he paid to have particular things done to his car and that is all. I have a perfect list for what needs to be done and he chose what he wanted.

Where is his contract? Read the contract then judge.  Whatever he has in his video is what he asked for - if his car is pathetic then it is because it is what he wants.

There you have it

if you have anything solid then bring it - otherwise feel free to be told what's up
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: william on August 08, 2014, 05:05:54 AM
So Randy has me motivated,  I'm really thinking about stating small, I noticed on that carkit website I could get the murci 4 kit and it states it's the easiest kit to install, I'm assuming it's more body work than anything,  I much rather a murci 2 even though it seems the 2 and 4 look a lot alike,  would this be doable?  Can it still turn out convincing enough to look real?

Also the donor cars it uses has back seats, does the murci 4 have back seats? I just stated looking at the kit, so not enough research, you guys have all been a great help.  Thanks for answering all my newb questions.
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: italianknightrider on August 08, 2014, 06:35:43 AM
get the Murci 2 - G28LP ,the fenders look weird on the Murci 4 ,this is my opinion ,it does not look convincing   
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: william on August 08, 2014, 07:00:42 AM
darn, Italian,  you just called out the flall that sealed the deal,  after looking at it now I can't stand it, I'm worried more about the frame stretching on the 2, what doner car should I use if I go with the 2
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: italianknightrider on August 08, 2014, 08:45:02 AM
what have you found in your area ,MR2 91-95 OR Fiero 85-88 what are you expectations & budget ...Roadster or Coupe ,nice daily driver or a 600hp trailer queen ,track car. if the guys here help you with the MR2 it will be the 3 or 4 build maybe no.5 including the blue car.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peldeDa6oLA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peldeDa6oLA)

 http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=55.255 (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=55.255)

 http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=971.105 (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=971.105)

he used everything replica that was available , including the tail lights ,get it on the road & enjoy some "Driving" then replace things as the budget permit ,they are always a work in progress.

Good luck
IKR 
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: Fatboyslim on August 08, 2014, 08:55:45 AM
Hi William im glad to see that i got you motivated thats very cool tnx for that. Heres some more good advice for you bro, you are on the right track go with a carkit inc murci 2 is also callled a G28 that IKR was referring to. Its the closest look to the real Lambo that your going find and Car kit inc has been around a long time they have great information on their website (if you can stand to listen to the guy talking)  :LL:. i think i almost went to the store and bought some rope to hang myself after i listened to that guy for so long but they have great information to use regarding the glass to use, power windows, grilles, tail/headlights etc. regarding your donor car, stick to a stretched fiero for your 1st build, you just cant go wrong with that its the best donor car for your 1st build. Have the stretching done for you because it has to be done right it can be dangerous if not done right. theres alot of guys here that are selling already stretched fiero donor cars for you such as a guy name Lance from s. carolina i forgot his forum name but he does great work and really makes his chassis strong and safe and for a good price ( about $4k) im sure someone here knows his forum name. you can have lance put a wide track suspension on the fiero from a place called arraut motor sports they have a bolt on kit that is cheap and very important to have. the rest is all done in steps and is fun to do. theres alot of talent here and they can help you step by step along the way.  if you noticed theres a feud going on here, this is a perfect example of what usually happens when you hire someone to build you a car. not saying anyone did anything wrong here i dont know these gentlemen but i can tell you something went wrong with them and the end result is probably you the buyer will lose your money or something and instead of being excited about your new hobby you will be discouraged and pissed off and lucky if your girlfriend doesnt leave you in the process. theres another guy that has a perfect body even better than carkit inc his name is jaime from lamborghini replica for sale his murci bodies are very nice and he is as honest as the day is long. good luck, your on the right track the g28 is a great body to start with and the fiero chassis is pefect for it. heres a couple pics of my murci2 that im re-building. very fun and very cool. one of the best bonuses that these cars get you along the way is a young hot chicks, yes its true the girl you see in the pic is now my wife and the pathetic truth is i could never get a chick like this if i didnt have this car. im a fat old guy, i fricken look like peter on family guy.. yeah i know, it sucks but now i love this car and i love my life cause i got a hot chick to wake up to every day! woohoo!  and now i need to go listen to some def leppard and bang on my drums. have a good one  ::beers

                                              randy
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: Digibeam on August 08, 2014, 12:26:19 PM
, i fricken look like peter on family guy..

Hahahahaha. You're killing me.... I will never be able to read another post from you without that vision in my head....
 ::K
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: LP640 on August 08, 2014, 12:42:54 PM
@fatboyslim, so you have the red diablo now your building the lp640? looks good, anymore pics?
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: tonypaul on August 08, 2014, 01:44:47 PM
After reading your first couple post about your goals for a replica I just wanted to give you a suggestion. I by no means want to sway you from getting a replica but it seems like alot of money to spend for a marketing item. I do small business marketing consulting and just would hate to see you get into something that has a very high risk of of not providing you what want.

This is just an idea, and something that could be done quickly and very cost effective and provide you with a excellent marketing tool as well as something you can use for your business. You could buy a used basic cargo van and have it wrapped something like below but with a Lamborghini image and business info. If done right you could really turn some heads and have a good shop transportation.

If you end up with some kit thats not done well it could reflect poorly upon your business....
Like I said its just an idea......
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: Purple LP670 SV on August 08, 2014, 01:48:49 PM
Maybe some different wheels and you'd be in buisness!!!
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: solrac on August 08, 2014, 04:14:58 PM
Am33r. I don't know the details and since ure suing him the courts will decide what is good and wrong. 
No I never met him he just seems like a nice guy and was looking to meet him in a couple of weeks since a couple of us members here that live close by are meetin all up together in a BBQ.
I've never before dealt or talked u so I have no Idea how u r. From the sounds of it sounds like ure a nice guys for doing all those things.
I was just stating what I heard of that deal and once again the courts will decide on that matter.
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: am33r on August 08, 2014, 04:49:15 PM
Thanx solrac  ::wave I hope all goes well with you.

I tried to explain some of what went on, there is plenty more but to the same effect.
And at least you now know the truth.  I won't bother you any further - unless you are willing to serve him the court papers :) at the bbq it would be a civil duty/privlege; kind of like voting
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: Fatboyslim on August 09, 2014, 12:29:06 AM
yes you can just call me peter griffin :LL:,  i do actually look just like that dude haha i certainly havnt won any tom cruise look alike contests lately, but yes i do have both cars for sale, for $40k you can have a beautiful Lamborghini Diablo replica..and why pay someone to build you a car and deal with all that mess? if you dont wish to build your own then i have one ready for you to enjoy. i will even set up the buyer with a date with my wifes sister, (the girl in the pic) shes looking for a husband hehe. it was alot of long hours to finish that car whoever buys it is getting a nice car that was built by me and a few highly educated hillbillies,. the Murci is for 45k and i made sure every single gap and line was perfect, i will post pics of it today, i think i put in over 2000 hours on the murci. it is sure to be a traffic stopper when its finished. So bring your coveralls and some chewing tobacco and come to washington and buy my car please. americas got talent is on gotta go!  ::wave

                                            Randy
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: william on August 09, 2014, 04:50:50 PM
Don't get me wrong I always wanted to experience a lamborghini,  so yes it will be for fun also, but I just don't plan on driving it much, I decided thanks to all the people on here I would find one that is 90% finished and go from that point.

You guys are all great, I appreciate all the help I received on making the right choice, finding out about roblp640, it's help like this that keeps people from getting screwed.

Btw the pic with the dhl van had me cracking up, awesome! I gotta look into that, good thing is I can skip past all the old lamborghinis and just have them paint b the new adventador lol.
Title: Re: I need a reliable builder.
Post by: am33r on August 09, 2014, 06:43:46 PM
William. Great idea!

Just so you know, LamboClone site owner NoBull (Chris) wanted to sell his lambo build two weeks ago - we all tried to talk him into changing his mind - he's rethinking it.. But ask him and see - maybe he would love to see it get done by someone from his forum! And he will help you a TON as he knows lot of the information and tricks all of us entertain here.  Ask him and see what he says!