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Title: Aventador build on aluminum chassis
Post by: DUBUC SLC on October 07, 2015, 10:38:34 AM
Paul ( a Customer ) is building an AvantadorDubucSLC chassis and on wheels
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Post by: DUBUC SLC on October 07, 2015, 10:46:57 AM
Engine donor Ford fusion 2013 ecoboost installed
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Post by: DUBUC SLC on October 07, 2015, 10:48:39 AM
original Engine support and cradle
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Post by: DUBUC SLC on October 07, 2015, 10:51:06 AM
suspension corvette front and ford rear
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Post by: DUBUC SLC on October 07, 2015, 10:52:56 AM
Check dash installation  console and seat
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Post by: 01Lambiero on October 07, 2015, 11:36:22 AM
Can you post a pic of the chassis with the body on?  What is the track width?  What is the wheelbase?  Thanks
Title: Re: Aventador build on aluminum chassis
Post by: DUBUC SLC on October 07, 2015, 12:43:51 PM
We did not bought a body yet...looking for a good one...
Same as Aventador   wheelbase 106 inch   ..overall width around 82 inch and plus  depending on your rear wheels  height 44 inch

The frame was design to fit
Title: Re: Aventador build on aluminum chassis
Post by: Tusabes on October 13, 2015, 07:16:34 PM
How did you know how to shape that aluminum frame without the kit body ?
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Post by: plans4sale on October 13, 2015, 07:30:56 PM
How did you know how to shape that aluminum frame without the kit body ?
It's hard to tell by pictures, but chances are that the side vertical beams of this aluminum chassis will collide with an Aventador body kit. At the front firewall, there must be enough room for the door hinge right behind the front wheel. Around the rear firewall, the side air intake will suddenly turn deeply towards the engine bay.
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Post by: s.pearcy on October 13, 2015, 08:16:27 PM
Very creative and beautiful project..cant wait to see the finished product. Great job! I wonder how the aluminum will hold up with the torque. Plans 4 sale you seem to be very knowledgeable on chassis designs and fitment, it would be great if you built a chassis from your designs then you could possibly pair up with aventcar and see if his body will fit your chassis, and together use it as an awesome marketing tool, im sure it would generate alot of interest/buyers for your chassis plans and for aventcars bodies. :)
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Post by: plans4sale on October 13, 2015, 08:27:51 PM
Very creative and beautiful project..cant wait to see the finished product. Great job! I wonder how the aluminum will hold up with the torque. Plans 4 sale you seem to be very knowledgeable on chassis designs and fitment, it would be great if you built a chassis from your designs then you could possibly pair up with aventcar and see if his body will fit your chassis, and together use it as an awesome marketing tool, im sure it would generate alot of interest/buyers for your chassis plans and for aventcars bodies. :)
s.pearcy, thanks for the kind words! My chassis plans are no longer available for sale since 5 days. Instead, now the actual chassis is available for orders through "Finnluxury" Oy.
 As for the aluminum chassis of the OP, I think that, with a few adjustments here and there to fit the currently available Aventador body kits, it could become a great base for the builders who demand lightness.

 Cheers!
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Post by: FauxDiablo on October 14, 2015, 09:49:14 AM
That is a very awesome frame.

That said, I cannot stand it when I see awesome fabrication skills executed to the Nth degree, only to be downgraded to crap with a bizarre collection of not-so awesome parts.

This is basically the opposite of throwing $50,000 worth of high-end drivetrain and suspension into a stretched Fiero.
Title: Re: Aventador build on aluminum chassis
Post by: DUBUC SLC on October 14, 2015, 04:07:19 PM
The frame dimension were base like a stretched Fiero to fit in a Diablo or Murcielago my customer has both , so will fit for the Aventador....Don`t get fool by the front wheel...it is not the right offset for the application  ....temporary wheels....
Title: Re: Aventador build on aluminum chassis
Post by: DUBUC SLC on October 14, 2015, 04:12:14 PM
High quality Aluminum was use on the chassis built..it can hold high horsepower and torque...we are building awd electric car on that chassis with 600 ft-lbs without any twist or flex
 
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Post by: DUBUC SLC on December 22, 2015, 09:58:54 AM
Received the body....just on top of the chassis ....Now measurement...and body support fab....all aluminum
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Post by: autopro on December 22, 2015, 10:16:15 AM
Oh that is very nice indeed!
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Post by: ncrazyballa on December 25, 2015, 07:50:55 AM
Looking good. 
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Post by: Rob James on December 27, 2015, 10:56:15 AM
May I ask if you are in Continental North America Dubuc? I would be very interested in meeting you or at least learning more about your build. Seems very high quality to me and a well thought out build. Congratulations on the work done thus far!

Rob,  ::beers
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Post by: Tusabes on December 28, 2015, 02:35:12 AM
Dubuc is in Canada
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Post by: DUBUC SLC on December 28, 2015, 08:39:33 AM
Where are Located i Quebec Quebec Canada.  This is my friend Paul build.He is a master kit builder, this is his 4th lambo built ( Countach, Murcielago,Diablo and now The Aventador. He build them for himself. He is using my aluminum frame on this one.
Starting alignment and looking good.
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Post by: ncrazyballa on December 28, 2015, 10:50:33 AM
 ::salute ::beers :notworthy
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Post by: Rob James on December 28, 2015, 11:10:16 AM
Did he get the body from InspireComposites??

Rob,  ::beers
Title: Re: Aventador build on aluminum chassis
Post by: DUBUC SLC on December 29, 2015, 01:24:35 PM
Yes Body from Inspire composite
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Post by: Tusabes on December 30, 2015, 11:52:00 PM
Inspires body looks closest to a real aventador
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Post by: Rob James on January 02, 2016, 09:00:38 AM
Do you really think so Tusabes? To my eyes, Carlos' car is the closest, maybe even exact. What am I missing here? Enlighten a simple layman's eyes.........honestly I really do want to know. ::help

Rob,  ::beers
Title: Re: Aventador build on aluminum chassis
Post by: faker on January 02, 2016, 12:41:41 PM
I like both kits, but i agree with Tusabes, that back quarter panel the arch for the back wheel is way out of wack, but i like Carlos's car because just by looking at it, it looks like a boat load less work, inspire has a more overall accurate kit in my eyes but lots more bodywork from what i can see from pictures. but regardless they both look sharp.
Title: Re: Aventador build on aluminum chassis
Post by: Tusabes on January 02, 2016, 07:32:29 PM
I don't want to get into the whole Carlos /inspire debate. 

Carlos kit is good but to my eyes looks more like a kit , with compromises in the wheel well area and other areas to fit a donor car

Inspire car is a scan that's closer to the real thing , but also means no donor easily fits under it- so you need to custom fab a chassis like is being done here

Of course the most important is that inspire kit can be bought today in the USA and you'll actually get it . The one reported purchase of Carlos kit (stethy ) has still not been able to take delivery of his parts.  That right there makes the deciding factor simple
Title: Re: Aventador build on aluminum chassis
Post by: plans4sale on January 02, 2016, 07:49:45 PM
Inspire car is a scan that's closer to the real thing , but also means no donor easily fits under it- so you need to custom fab a chassis like is being done here
Where did that information came from?
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Post by: rodrieguz on January 02, 2016, 09:54:37 PM
Kit looks good in the pics chassis is stellar too.  ::bounce
Title: Re: Aventador build on aluminum chassis
Post by: Rob James on January 03, 2016, 10:13:26 AM
Ok, just so I'm clear on this, Dubuc that is not a custom aluminum chassis FOR the Aventador, but an aluminum chassis for the Tomahawk that you are trying to fit Inspire's body on? And that aluminum chassis sells for $5,000.00 Canadian, correct? Ok, I would be very interested to know how many modifications you wind up doing to get things aligned and connected. And what your overall impressions of the fitment are. Best of luck, looks like an extremely interesting Project.

Rob,  ::beers
Title: Re: Aventador build on aluminum chassis
Post by: DUBUC SLC on January 04, 2016, 10:27:51 AM
OK...Yes the chassis was develop for the Tomahawk, but very close to a stretch Fiero for a Lambo kit. So all the chassis dimension ( width, length and height ) fit under a lambo skin. NO MODIFICATION ON THE CHASSIS .
For sure you will have to fabricate  all the body support and body reinforcement, like you do normally on your build.
You can see on pics the roof fit right on top of the rear Firewall and Rollbar.

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Post by: DUBUC SLC on January 04, 2016, 10:29:00 AM
More pics
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Post by: Peggyontherunireland on January 04, 2016, 02:20:09 PM
Build looks amazing mate keep it going  ::thumbup ::thumbup
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Post by: 01Lambiero on January 04, 2016, 02:51:42 PM
What kind of modifications will be necessary to strengthen the chassis when the wheels are extended outward?  What are your plans concerning side crash safety to occupants?
Title: Re: Aventador build on aluminum chassis
Post by: DUBUC SLC on January 04, 2016, 04:22:49 PM
The chassis is made for an 80 inch wide car....so no modification needed....
Do not look at wheels on it they are not the correct offset
Like other kitcar you build your door reinforcement for side impact.
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Post by: Havemurci on January 04, 2016, 04:42:49 PM
I love this thing!
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Post by: Rob James on January 06, 2016, 07:18:29 PM
Very cool.........thanks for the detailed pictures, looks excellent. I see you are using wood to mock up future chassis connection points, won't that be a modification? Two questions come to mind. Aside from outright buying an assembled chassis, do you have any intentions of selling the chassis build plans? And if not, do you have any idea of turn around time, from ordering to delivery? I'm in Western Canada.

Rob,  ::beers
Title: Re: Aventador build on aluminum chassis
Post by: DUBUC SLC on January 18, 2016, 08:39:10 AM
Some fitting  Top support frame and bumper frame
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Post by: Havemurci on January 18, 2016, 02:56:34 PM
Like the crumple zones.
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Post by: Tusabes on January 18, 2016, 03:08:40 PM
Like the crumple zones.
For the front , yes. The top support should be much thicker and in steel though for occupant protection
Title: Re: Aventador build on aluminum chassis
Post by: DUBUC SLC on January 18, 2016, 03:38:16 PM
The frame has already a full width rollbar for occupant safety...you can filp the car upside down and it will not crush...
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Post by: Tusabes on January 18, 2016, 03:50:13 PM
It's far more likely to crush at the windshield /A pillar area in an accident, than be a perfect 180 degree rollover situation where the rear rollbar behind the seats comes into play

If the entire windshield /a pillar area is crushed into the passenger compartment , it doesn't matter that the rear rollbar behind the seats is strong , the occupants are still dead.
Title: Re: Aventador build on aluminum chassis
Post by: minihawn on January 18, 2016, 04:22:32 PM
It's far more likely to crush at the windshield /A pillar area in an accident, than be a perfect 180 degree rollover situation where the rear rollbar behind the seats comes into play

If the entire windshield /a pillar area is crushed into the passenger compartment , it doesn't matter that the rear rollbar behind the seats is strong , the occupants are still dead.

I guess all cobra replica/OEM owners will never drive there cars again...
Title: Re: Aventador build on aluminum chassis
Post by: Tusabes on January 18, 2016, 04:30:00 PM
Cobra are a deathtrap and the drivers know it . Do you think they are safe , or that the little hoops behind the headrests Save people's lives ? Anyway , that's besides the point for this build

The point I'm making is that for this build - in this thread - there is an easy solution to make the car far safer by using a thicker steel top support beam . Given the progress where there is full access to unbolt the aluminum part, it's at the perfect stage to make it stronger before it's too late

I've said my comments in the spirit of safety and constructive help and I'll leave it at that. I don't need this to devolve into a pissing contest
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Post by: 76mx on January 18, 2016, 08:47:26 PM
It's far more likely to crush at the windshield /A pillar area in an accident, than be a perfect 180 degree rollover situation where the rear rollbar behind the seats comes into play

If the entire windshield /a pillar area is crushed into the passenger compartment , it doesn't matter that the rear rollbar behind the seats is strong , the occupants are still dead.

I guess all cobra replica/OEM owners will never drive there cars again...
I am going to keep driving mine, and continue to do it without wearing the seat belt. It would make me feel like I was belted to a motorcycle. I have been stopped several times because there is no visible shoulder belt, but after explaining that a 1966 is not even required to have belts, let alone be worn, they say nice car.
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Post by: DUBUC SLC on January 30, 2016, 01:57:18 PM
Door post assembly and rear hatch hinges
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Post by: DUBUC SLC on January 30, 2016, 02:02:12 PM
Running board frame both sides and rear end fit
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Post by: DUBUC SLC on February 19, 2016, 08:19:42 AM
Rear hatch frame and bumper , rear body frame
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Post by: Rob James on February 19, 2016, 09:44:41 AM
Dubuc, your build is looking spectacular. Can't say enough about your craftsmanship, especially the framing, really looking top-notch. Best of luck with it!  ::thumbup
Rob,  ::beers
Title: Re: Aventador build on aluminum chassis
Post by: DUBUC SLC on February 19, 2016, 04:04:21 PM
THIS IS NOT MY BUILD....

I am posting for my Fiend Paul...

He is building this project...I am not.... 

No frame for sale....
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Post by: Rob James on February 22, 2016, 03:12:57 PM
Apologies for posting off topic in your thread.
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Post by: casper on February 22, 2016, 04:36:16 PM
What am I missing? I'm not seeing anything rude?
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Post by: Rob James on February 22, 2016, 04:39:40 PM
Again, apologies for posting off topic in your thread.
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Post by: eddie on February 22, 2016, 05:08:15 PM
maybe he thinks you are tire kicker with no money ,but lot of dreams.
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Post by: ncrazyballa on February 22, 2016, 05:39:23 PM
rob called me one time pretending to have business but the only reason calling me was to complain about the beef i had with aventcar.
Title: Re: Aventador build on aluminum chassis
Post by: Rob James on February 24, 2016, 09:42:27 AM
Apologies for posting off topic in your thread.
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Post by: eddie on February 24, 2016, 11:11:15 AM
Rob I never said that .i said  HE may think you are a tire kicker.
Plus I'm not a businessman. Just blue collar working stiff. Working my as$
Off sub contracting 3 different bodyshop average 12hrs a day some  weekend too.
All peace Bro .
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Post by: ncrazyballa on February 24, 2016, 01:30:22 PM
bye  ::wave
Title: Re: Aventador build on aluminum chassis
Post by: Neils88 on February 24, 2016, 05:27:01 PM
Hi to everyone.  I'm new to this forum, but some of you know me from PFF with my Aventador build based on an 88 Fiero Chassis and an Inspire body kit.  I've had the pleasure of meeting Paul and Dubuc SLC, who drove down from Quebec to visit my build last year, before Paul bought his kit from Inspire.  They are great guys and wow...what a wealth of knowledge.  It's builds like Paul's that keep me inspired (no pun intended) and strive to keep the quality of my work up. 

I won't get involved in any of the issues and arguments going back and forth here, but I will say that I hope everyone can put these things aside and keep threads like these civil as much as possible.  This is where new builders look for the information that will help them get into what could be one of the biggest projects of their lives...or help them steer clear before they get over their head.  If it gets filled with animosity, then eventually it falls apart, the real information dries up and the thread loses any value.   :(

Anyway...let's keep a great thread positive and enjoy the awesome work from Paul!  I have lots more to learn from him and can't wait to see his progress!   ::thumbup
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Post by: italianknightrider on March 14, 2016, 09:34:50 PM
THIS IS NOT MY BUILD....

I am posting for my Fiend Paul...

He is building this project...I am not.... 

No frame for sale....


How is the windshield frame support coming alone ,will it be one piece ,with a curves support under the windshield lip tray or will it be 4 pieces weld together (top, two sides and a bottom
Title: Re: Aventador build on aluminum chassis
Post by: DUBUC SLC on April 07, 2016, 08:17:09 AM
Windshield frame and top
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Post by: DUBUC SLC on April 07, 2016, 08:19:13 AM
Aventador real wheels and tires fitting
The wheel / frame gap is not as close as you see in pics...
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Post by: DUBUC SLC on April 07, 2016, 08:20:42 AM
Body adjustments latches fuel tank door
Paul will move out the rear fender to accommodate the tires
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Post by: Neils88 on April 10, 2016, 06:08:38 PM
Looking great!
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Post by: Nav modgil on March 05, 2017, 05:46:35 AM
Hy ::bounce everyone m a junior to u guys bt really appreciate what sort of knowledge u gathered .

Somehow m nt being able to see gallery

Pls help
 sir how cn i register on http://lambomafia.com/lamboclone/lambogallery/index.php (http://lambomafia.com/lamboclone/lambogallery/index.php)
Title: Re: Aventador build on aluminum chassis
Post by: DUBUC SLC on June 06, 2017, 03:26:28 PM
Aventador   First drive out:   sorry in french...
https://www.facebook.com/michel.plamondon.52/videos/pcb.723049434540004/723046464540301/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/michel.plamondon.52/videos/pcb.723049434540004/723046464540301/?type=3&theater)
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Post by: rodrieguz on June 06, 2017, 06:36:56 PM
I can't  see pictures  anyone else have this issue???
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Post by: casper on June 06, 2017, 07:26:56 PM
I can't see anything either.
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Post by: DUBUC SLC on October 27, 2017, 03:06:16 PM
Teaser ....
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Post by: Linlor on November 02, 2017, 11:09:15 PM
Absolutely amazing work.

Love it
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Post by: Transcend on November 24, 2017, 10:39:49 PM
this is the Inspire composites body?

Looks great with the coat of paint.
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Post by: DUBUC SLC on January 09, 2018, 07:57:25 AM
Yes...Body from Inspire Composite
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Post by: 99svmonterey on January 09, 2018, 09:14:53 PM
Looking great for sure! What does the kit use for a windshield and door glass?
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Post by: Neils88 on January 12, 2018, 08:53:53 PM
I have the same kit so I can answer from my perspective.  The latest version of the kit is designed to use the windshield from a 2000 Infiniti i30.  The curvature and dimensions are the same as oem, other than it is about 6" shorter at the bottom of the glass.  This part is blackened out on the Aventador, so it is easy enough to paint fiberglass below the windshield to match.  This part is also largely obscured by the wipers anyway.  It costs about $130 for the Infiniti windshield versus about $5k for the oem windshield.  To me, the cost savings (and ease of access to replacement windshields) makes it easy to overlook the slight difference.

The kit is mostly accurate along the sides of the car, so I'm using oem Aventador side door glass.  Used Aventador door glass is relatively inexpensive (about $200 per side).  The other two pieces of glass on each side aren't as easy to deal with.  The oem glass is expensive and may not fit properly as the overall length of the kit is slightly shorter.  I'll likely look at cutting these pieces from an old windshield.