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The Forum => New Member Introductions & Bio's => Topic started by: Wrenn The Reviewer on September 05, 2016, 05:01:25 PM
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hey guys! I would LOVE it if anyone could link me to some legit lamborghini replica builders! I would like to get a hold of the owners because I MAKE BUSINESSES BIG so I want to seriously make it easier for people to buy these cars for cheap! so if anyone HAS ANY referrals on successful builders who haven't SCREWED anyone then let me know.
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You must be a mile high if you think you could
Make the replica business big in Colorado.
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How bout an introduction prior to coming on here trying to make a business HUUUUGGEE? Honestly who are you and why are you even on here? You're fishing for something, and I'm not sure what that is, to believe that any money can be made building these cars is ridiculous!
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How bout an introduction prior to coming on here trying to make a business HUUUUGGEE? Honestly who are you and why are you even on here? You're fishing for something, and I'm not sure what that is, to believe that any money can be made building these cars is ridiculous!
LOL I guess the difference is you're relying on belief. I am relying on factual evidence google provides me for free to do my research :) just looking to be pointed to right direction guys. not the gossiping xD
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You must be a mile high if you think you could
Make the replica business big in Colorado.
yea well im not just colorado focused with this business I can rank websites nationally so I plan on ranking a website nationally with a trusted lambo replica builder who wants to get tons of business xD like I said man this is FOR SURE not a guessing game.
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How bout an introduction prior to coming on here trying to make a business HUUUUGGEE? Honestly who are you and why are you even on here? You're fishing for something, and I'm not sure what that is, to believe that any money can be made building these cars is ridiculous!
LOL I guess the difference is you're relying on belief. I am relying on factual evidence google provides me for free to do my research :) just looking to be pointed to right direction guys. not the gossiping xD
What factual evidence on Google says that this is a money maker? And if it was wouldn't people already be making said money? And if those people were making said money why would they need you to take a portion of it? Very few companies have truly made money on these types of cars and have all been shut down by the company itself! Which once again brings up my question WHO are you and why are you here?
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How bout an introduction prior to coming on here trying to make a business HUUUUGGEE? Honestly who are you and why are you even on here? You're fishing for something, and I'm not sure what that is, to believe that any money can be made building these cars is ridiculous!
LOL I guess the difference is you're relying on belief. I am relying on factual evidence google provides me for free to do my research :) just looking to be pointed to right direction guys. not the gossiping xD
What factual evidence on Google says that this is a money maker? And if it was wouldn't people already be making said money? And if those people were making said money why would they need you to take a portion of it? Very few companies have truly made money on these types of cars and have all been shut down by the company itself! Which once again brings up my question WHO are you and why are you here?
Like I said I just want to make it easier for a legit company to be seen so when people google what they want, which google shows you what people are looking for with tools they have within google... I want to find a builder and just be smart about building them.. create a nice assembly team and I don't want money I want lambo replicas with corvette engines... but i need a talented hard worker to find that is up to it. And I know that may sound crazy to you but hey people are getting scammed on the daily because they are fooled into thinking a replica builder is building something for them and then they send them money with no product... sure lambo might try and shut us down but in the end if we design something from the ground up and never sell the car its just a donation or whatever loophole we decide to move forward with and then simply I can help boost it to where people are LEGITLY spending money in the right places... im sure you're familiar that the #1 guy now is a scammer called SRFOOSE and also CHICK MAGNET CARS all that same looking logo so i'm actually here for a noble cause... and that is for people to ENJOY a nice car for a smaller stickler price and at the same time be legit and improve lives. Right now lamborghini can't shut down srfoose because they don't really do anything so if anything its a big scam so that leads me to a question for you... do you know any legit builders who are possible candidates?
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LOL, another ignorant newbie thinking HE knows better than everybody else, we're all just a bunch of dummies to stupid to see the goldmine we are sitting on. There have to be literally thousands of qualified builders out there who would be building replicas with "Corvette" engines in them if there was actually a market for them.
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LOL, another ignorant newbie thinking HE knows better than everybody else, we're all just a bunch of dummies to stupid to see the goldmine we are sitting on. There have to be literally thousands of qualified builders out there who would be building replicas with "Corvette" engines in them if there was actually a market for them.
I may be a newbie at cars and lambo replicas but I am a pro at making money online and ranking #1 in google for whatever I want. I am just choosing lamborghini replicas because HEY I want one...and not for money but for my ability to bring the customers in.. I can bring in EVERY single customer looking for lambo builds because that's how good I am. You want me to convince you? I don't care about convincing someone who won't do anything for me so you can move a long with your opinions. If a customer is willing to put money down to see THEIR dream car built at a fraction of the cost. And hey you should consider this a noble thing i am doing... you think I can't scam someone and just tell them to put 1000 dollars down change my number and do it to the next?! Well I am actually trying to do something legit so please think before you spew your crap. I can make sure transactions go smoothly to where there is NO loss or any risk here. so i guess believe what you want in life and jump on whatever opportunities you think will advance you the most. I already been talking to a few people and they were just way too greedy for me. I need people with a passion and a good work ethic and with a satisfaction of getting a ton of cash just for doing what they love to do.
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Making a builder popular in the search engines is NOT what any lambo builder wants . Any builder with a good product wants to stay under the radar so that Lamborghini doesn't sue them !!
Every kit car company that got too popular making Ferrari and lambo replicas has been sued by the manufacturers
They don't want publicity and search engine rankings .
Do you want to know some legit builders ?
Kitcar mike.com and v8archie.com
They are both long time veterans in the kit car business and well respected
I also imagine they won't be interested in your proposal of bringing them customers in exchange for a free lambo replica .
There are many other builders here but they prefer to stay low key . To interest them you might consider posting some of the products /websites you have promoted in the past and a list of references from previous customers of yours
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Here's an idea. Build a demo car first before attempting to get into the business of producing replicas. That way you'll show the world your capable. Don't be like robslp640 or Joe at inland who got over his head and had to screw people out of money along the way. Also Colorado isn't exactly a good market for kits. I'm here to tell you that now being from that market.
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Making a builder popular in the search engines is NOT what any lambo builder wants . Any builder with a good product wants to stay under the radar so that Lamborghini doesn't sue them !!
Every kit car company that got too popular making Ferrari and lambo replicas has been sued by the manufacturers
They don't want publicity and search engine rankings .
Do you want to know some legit builders ?
Kitcar mike.com and v8archie.com
They are both long time veterans in the kit car business and well respected
I also imagine they won't be interested in your proposal of bringing them customers in exchange for a free lambo replica .
There are many other builders here but they prefer to stay low key . To interest them you might consider posting some of the products /websites you have promoted in the past and a list of references from previous customers of yours
well I would be playing the middle man so I would be the guy people come to for the kits and I will send it to whomever is willing to work with me. my time is wrapped up in constantly getting clients for their sites built so I don't have too much time to hunt down a person who isn't greedy about profits they would never have had without me funneling the customers to them. I was actually talking to robert from robsLP640, and he was saying every 7 guys i sent him he would make me a free one... so I was about to fly out and see him! Because he wants me to work with him so I was just gonna go out there and see the process and ask questions. But hey I only wanna work with ONE person who has a semi capable team together and willing to make slight profits in order to keep the price at a good price for the customer to be really interested in jumping on this poopie... I was talking to another guy who says he owns rights to the countach model... so I was wanting to work with him but at 80k a car build a customer might as well get the real thing :/ so thanks for the input I will reach out to those you suggested and will see if they would be interested. Thanks for being the most helpful reply.
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It costs about 40k in parts to build one of these properly and more if you want to make it really accurate. Not to mention countless hours of labor to get it done. You're just not going to be able to produce these for cheap. For someone looking to just buy one you'd be better off coming up with 100k and buying a Galardo. Replicas really only make sense for those with the ability to build them since they can get it done for about 40k plus their own labor. If you really want a murcielago replica 80k is reasonable for a properly built one, imho. ::beers
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It costs about 40k in parts to build one of these properly and more if you want to make it really accurate. Not to mention countless hours of labor to get it done. You're just not going to be able to produce these for cheap. For someone looking to just buy one you'd be better off coming up with 100k and buying a Galardo. Replicas really only make sense for those with the ability to build them since they can get it done for about 40k plus their own labor. If you really want a murcielago replica 80k is reasonable for a properly built one, imho. ::beers
yeah but im looking to connect the right people to drive cost down. I mean if 60 k was the cost to build a nice replica and that included the payment to the workers involved then awesome! I don't claim to know it all but I do know that anything can be done... and that means driving prices down on building these things to provide people a legit building service thats easily accessible to the public.
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I can build for you ...
I can send four cars in a container.
minimum order four to be profitable.
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I can build for you ...
I can send four cars in a container.
minimum order four to be profitable.
I am interested. I replied to your message.. I just think if youre in spain it would be unrealistic to send you work without being able to see legitimacy. If you want to work with me I need pictures of finished cars you have done possibly a live video feed as well. Ways to prove legit status and we can move on from there.
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So you are wanting Lambocars to prove he is legit? A long standing member who has supplied many members with parts, but you still fail to explain yourself, other than promising people you will bring them customers while asking them to accept peanuts in exchange???
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So you are wanting Lambocars to prove he is legit? A long standing member who has supplied many members with parts, but you still fail to explain yourself, other than promising people you will bring them customers while asking them to accept peanuts in exchange???
what are you even reading these? i said i wanted to get some live video maybe some pictures and evidence that can legitimize himself because rob from robslp640 seems legit even invited me down to his place so if he still is just hanging on to cars and comes to find out he has felonies and all this stuff i chose not to move forward with him... but yet you still question me I am a little confused what your beef with me is... I personally don't know "lambocars" past and order history i seen his ebay and he made TWO sales on it and they were pieces and parts not a whole lambo kit build so once again yes this is an interview process because if im moving forward i want to make sure it will be the right guy..or girl...
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you will not find better quality finishes ... oem 200% accurate.
You will not hear talk about my ... my clients are looking discretion.
my customers are from France and Germany.
you'll have to trust me just as I in you.
you can travel to my shop when you want.
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you will not find better quality finishes ... oem 200% accurate.
You will not hear talk about my ... my clients are looking discretion.
my customers are from France and Germany.
you'll have to trust me just as I in you.
you can travel to my shop when you want.
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So you are wanting Lambocars to prove he is legit? A long standing member who has supplied many members with parts, but you still fail to explain yourself, other than promising people you will bring them customers while asking them to accept peanuts in exchange???
what are you even reading these? i said i wanted to get some live video maybe some pictures and evidence that can legitimize himself because rob from robslp640 seems legit even invited me down to his place so if he still is just hanging on to cars and comes to find out he has felonies and all this stuff i chose not to move forward with him... but yet you still question me I am a little confused what your beef with me is... I personally don't know "lambocars" past and order history i seen his ebay and he made TWO sales on it and they were pieces and parts not a whole lambo kit build so once again yes this is an interview process because if im moving forward i want to make sure it will be the right guy..or girl...
I have zero beef with you but I feel like you are interviewing the interviewer! You see you have to gain trust here before thinking someone is gonna just jump in feet first. And that goes for even buying the smallest parts! I see you have already barked up the wrong tree if you are even talking to Rob! No Google required there, just search his name on this forum and you will have all the information required to make a educated decision on whether or not to work with him!
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So you are wanting Lambocars to prove he is legit? A long standing member who has supplied many members with parts, but you still fail to explain yourself, other than promising people you will bring them customers while asking them to accept peanuts in exchange???
what are you even reading these? i said i wanted to get some live video maybe some pictures and evidence that can legitimize himself because rob from robslp640 seems legit even invited me down to his place so if he still is just hanging on to cars and comes to find out he has felonies and all this stuff i chose not to move forward with him... but yet you still question me I am a little confused what your beef with me is... I personally don't know "lambocars" past and order history i seen his ebay and he made TWO sales on it and they were pieces and parts not a whole lambo kit build so once again yes this is an interview process because if im moving forward i want to make sure it will be the right guy..or girl...
I have zero beef with you but I feel like you are interviewing the interviewer! You see you have to gain trust here before thinking someone is gonna just jump in feet first. And that goes for even buying the smallest parts! I see you have already barked up the wrong tree if you are even talking to Rob! No Google required there, just search his name on this forum and you will have all the information required to make a educated decision on whether or not to work with him!
yeah its a challenge but i can only move forward with one person and it has to be right circumstances all the way around.
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I can build for you ...
I can send four cars in a container.
minimum order four to be profitable.
Lambocars, he is not wanting to buy cars, he is wanting to send you potential clients for you to sell them a car. I thought my 2% finders fee (about $2,000 per car) was reasonable and industry standard, regardless of what product it is, but he is entitled to his opinion that it was greedy. Be aware that the proposed seven for one deal with Rob gives him just under 15% of the gross profit and probably 30% of your net profit.
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I can build for you ...
I can send four cars in a container.
minimum order four to be profitable.
Lambocars, he is not wanting to buy cars, he is wanting to send you potential clients for you to sell them a car. I thought my 2% finders fee (about $2,000 per car) was reasonable and industry standard, regardless of what product it is, but he is entitled to his opinion that it was greedy. Be aware that the proposed seven for one deal with Rob gives him just under 15% of the gross profit and probably 30% of your net profit.
My thought process is that this isn't typical referrals. This is clients that you would have never had if it hadn't been for my intervention and that's the way I have to value my time. If someone makes over even a 100 grand off me don't you think i am a value to them?...worth a little more than 2% in my honest opinion. I am pretty close to just making my own team, I got a diesel mechanic friend, he has a shop and he may take on the project... I just have to go get all the molds.
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In that case let me refer you to the people who have molds for sale and take 15%.
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my oem molds are for sale
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my oem molds are for sale
In that case let me refer you to the people who have molds for sale and take 15%.
@lambocars ok can you send me pics in email? and price?
@ 76mx sure if the price is reasonable and you can get me a few different molds of lambos then thats cool
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Countach, Diablo, Murcie, and Aventador molds, $40,000 for all four, plus the $6,000 fee, $46,000 total. FOB Fort Worth, Texas.
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my molds are for carbon fiber...very high quality...no amateur molds...easy release and perfect finish..
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my molds are for carbon fiber...very high quality...no amateur molds...easy release and perfect finish..
what molds you have and how much ?
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murcielago coupe. 24000 euro
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murcielago coupe. 24000 euro
24k for a mold?
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this price is for all murci molds all parts necessary ....more 60 molds
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hey I haven't had the chance to call you yet, I will give you a call and you can come over to my house and take a look at my murci project being that you love on the same town as me, and once you see it and you see how extensive it is building a replica you might have a change of heart.
my car is 80% done depending on how you look at the situation, that is considering I half @$$ everything that's left on it.
in the eyes of the builders on this forum they would probably say my car is 40 or maybe 50% completed.
You can half a$$ it and as 76mx once told a a fellow on this forum if you want to cheap it out like that you will certainly have a car that will look resemble a lambo but it's still going to be a car cry and you probably will be called out.
maybe you should try your hand at the "build section" and take a look at purplelp670svs build and just scroll through the pages of that man's build and take a look at the amount of craftsmanship and effort and time it takes to build a quality build. his build is probably one of the best builds I have ever seen.
If he's telling you it then it's for a reason, if anyone's knows the process of building a replica it's the guys right here posting that know first hand.
with that said just be careful because scams happen all the time in this hobby and I say 99% of people who come into this like you get screwed over and learn the hard way, and see that's what purplesv is trying to save you from that by just being really up front.
I got screwed over man, and I lost a lot of cash and felt really stupid. lucky I had the people around here when it all collapsed.
try and not take it personal, I say we all start directing you in how to get a lambo replica of your own and screw the "manufacturing lambos" because this is a massive lawsuit waiting to happen my friend.
Plus how spacial is it if everyone could have a replica for nothing?
I'll call you in a couple hours just keep a open mind about all this. and knowing me I can get you directed in the right direction on how to go about getting one.
Sorry my English is really bad so please look past any spelling errors.
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Wrenn, think about this. $50,000 or so for molds and then you need to outfit and stock a fiberglass shop, another $50,000. Then another $50,000 worth of parts and purchasing WD deals with your 30-40 vendors to get their price right, then at least 1,000 man hours to figure out the first one. At 40 hours a week, that is two years of assembly labor that has to be paid for, not counting the additional R&D labor, sales and marketing labor, and someone on the phone taking calls, which is a full time job by itself. This is all assuming you already have a facility and tooling. If not, add some more money. Spending a quarter million dollars or more to go into the replica business seems the long way around to come out with a free car.
Steve Temple, editor of Reincarnation Magazine (formerly Carbuilder Magazine) called me yesterday and asked if he had my permission to return your call and give you my name as the legit builder that they would recommend. I told him yes.
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Might I suggest http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=2685.0 (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=2685.0)
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Wrenn, think about this. $50,000 or so for molds and then you need to outfit and stock a fiberglass shop, another $50,000. Then another $50,000 worth of parts and purchasing WD deals with your 30-40 vendors to get their price right, then at least 1,000 man hours to figure out the first one. At 40 hours a week, that is two years of assembly labor that has to be paid for, not counting the additional R&D labor, sales and marketing labor, and someone on the phone taking calls, which is a full time job by itself. This is all assuming you already have a facility and tooling. If not, add some more money. Spending a quarter million dollars or more to go into the replica business seems the long way around to come out with a free car.
Steve Temple, editor of Reincarnation Magazine (formerly Carbuilder Magazine) called me yesterday and asked if he had my permission to return your call and give you my name as the legit builder that they would recommend. I told him yes.
Building these isn't my MO, my main focus is ranking websites / bringing the customers. If somebody has the skills and vision I will make it happen, it is not about me doing this solo, I think it is incredibly hard for ANYONE to do ANYTHING solo in life :) but thats just my experience. If you guys know of anyone talented and in it for the passion let me know :)
and on a side note, if you had made a better proposal of something way less than your 800,000 $ profit before being able to make one for me then I would have been more open but just that alone and the fact you wont come down shows me that I wouldn't want to work with you anyhow..
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Hey no hard feelings, it is all good. I had lunch today with two of my best friends who each own car dealerships. I asked them about a service like this and they said they both used one. If I understand it all correctly, anytime someone searches for one of their models, that lead is found and referred to them. They pay $25 per lead and both agreed that about 10% of them become closed deals, making the total lead payment for each sale right at $250. They also both agreed that the average new car sale is $30-$35,000. Using these numbers, leads generated for an $80,000 car should be worth about $700 or a little less, at least in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. I do not feel greedy about offering $2,000.
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Hey no hard feelings, it is all good. I had lunch today with two of my best friends who each own car dealerships. I asked them about a service like this and they said they both used one. If I understand it all correctly, anytime someone searches for one of their models, that lead is found and referred to them. They pay $25 per lead and both agreed that about 10% of them become closed deals, making the total lead payment for each sale right at $250. They also both agreed that the average new car sale is $30-$35,000. Using these numbers, leads generated for an $80,000 car should be worth about $700 or a little less, at least in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. I do not feel greedy about offering $2,000.
no hard feelings :) I know you gotta value your work but 80 grand for a replica defeats the purpose someone would be interested in a replica to be honest. They are seeking replica's because it is supposed to be cheaper than the actual car xD
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Not true at all. What they are trying to defeat is the $6 a mile in maintenance. Take a real one to dinner a couple of times, spend $1,000 in the shop next day. There is a very good market for $80,000 replicas, much easier to sell them than $40,000 ones, but let us just agree to disagree on that.
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$40,000+ in parts, plus 2500+ hours of labor.... Wrenn, I'm really not sure how you figure you can get someone to start building these cheaply? As also mentioned, mass production means business ending lawsuit.
Wrenn....you really need to take some time to learn about replica builds and what actually goes into them.
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Wrenn, think about this. $50,000 or so for molds and then you need to outfit and stock a fiberglass shop, another $50,000. Then another $50,000 worth of parts and purchasing WD deals with your 30-40 vendors to get their price right, then at least 1,000 man hours to figure out the first one. At 40 hours a week, that is two years of assembly labor that has to be paid for, not counting the additional R&D labor, sales and marketing labor, and someone on the phone taking calls, which is a full time job by itself. This is all assuming you already have a facility and tooling. If not, add some more money. Spending a quarter million dollars or more to go into the replica business seems the long way around to come out with a free car.
Steve Temple, editor of Reincarnation Magazine (formerly Carbuilder Magazine) called me yesterday and asked if he had my permission to return your call and give you my name as the legit builder that they would recommend. I told him yes.
Building these isn't my MO, my main focus is ranking websites / bringing the customers. If somebody has the skills and vision I will make it happen, it is not about me doing this solo, I think it is incredibly hard for ANYONE to do ANYTHING solo in life :) but thats just my experience. If you guys know of anyone talented and in it for the passion let me know :)
and on a side note, if you had made a better proposal of something way less than your 800,000 $ profit before being able to make one for me then I would have been more open but just that alone and the fact you wont come down shows me that I wouldn't want to work with you anyhow..
Sorry, I totally misunderstood. I thought you were pretty close to building your own cars with a diesel mechanic friend. I am going to take that as a "No" on purchasing the molds. Now seriously, all of this back and forth is regarding the finished price of a car. I am not understanding what difference that makes to your concept, $40,000 or $80,000 or even $160,000. Why do we need to "Get the cost down"?
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Wren, dont listen to these fools. I can get you any replica for 20,000. V12 600hp motors. Find me at super replicas. I have had hundreds of customers. Ask for Rither at super replicas
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el unico tonto los cojones que hay aqui eres tu madmods...
super replicas swindler!!!!!!!!!!!
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el unico tonto los cojones que hay aqui eres tu madmods...
super replicas swindler!!!!!!!!!!!
::beers
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Wrenn you clearly don't know what you're doing if you are talking to rob
Rob will promise you everything while you send him buyers, then give you nothing ! Do you really think he is going to give you a free car after you send him buyers and after he gets what he wanted? Ha!
All you'll be doing is directing people to lose their money getting scammed with rob , and then you'll be scammed yourself .
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Wrenn you clearly don't know what you're doing if you are talking to rob
Rob will promise you everything while you send him buyers, then give you nothing ! Do you really think he is going to give you a free car after you send him buyers and after he gets what he wanted? Ha!
All you'll be doing is directing people to lose their money getting scammed with rob , and then you'll be scammed yourself .
like i said i chose not to use rob. he has felonies i can clearly pull up and see.
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Yes, that big ole ankle bracelet should have been your first clue.
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Hey no hard feelings, it is all good. I had lunch today with two of my best friends who each own car dealerships. I asked them about a service like this and they said they both used one. If I understand it all correctly, anytime someone searches for one of their models, that lead is found and referred to them. They pay $25 per lead and both agreed that about 10% of them become closed deals, making the total lead payment for each sale right at $250. They also both agreed that the average new car sale is $30-$35,000. Using these numbers, leads generated for an $80,000 car should be worth about $700 or a little less, at least in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. I do not feel greedy about offering $2,000.
no hard feelings :) I know you gotta value your work but 80 grand for a replica defeats the purpose someone would be interested in a replica to be honest. They are seeking replica's because it is supposed to be cheaper than the actual car xD
Huh? $80K as opposed to over $400K for the real one is a VERY good deal, far less than 25% of the cost of the real car. So, saving over 80% isn't a good deal?????????
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Wrenn the reviewer https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxdWYKxPh9U
I saw your YouTube video you did for Rob, to my experience understanding from marketing and business perspective his replicar business is basically on life support... Your the guy who's coming in to hopefully revive it.
If Rob wants to be big like he was once before he needs to get on Camera and address a lot of his wrong doings and own up. Not have someone else do it. Working for the Marine Corps we were taught customer service and that's what either makes and breaks a business. Rob needs to pull up his big boy pants and do it himself and cut out any middle men shielding him from anyone. Because anyone tied to Joe at Inland exotics has been proven to be cancerous to this community from scamming people out of money or providing them with a shitty product after charging someone 35k to build it.
The sad part is that Rob is more than capable of doing it. I believe he can! He has the talent to build cars, yet he keeps reinventing himself and falling back into his same old ways. Again I'm not knocking his business but I've sat on the kit car side lines for years now and this is what I'm seeing from him. Producing a video claiming you're legit is not the answer. Super replicas does the same thing, same with Las Vegas replicas and every other scammer who continues to kill the kit car industry for the worse.
Rob has a lot of work ahead of him and my advice is he for one needs to build products and actually sell them to people before claiming he's the best in the business, again he builds cool cars, best in the business? Hell no! Stop being so darn ignorant when people like Murcie-me and Jets303 just to name a few have built far more accurate cars in which I've seen in person, I've seen one of his products in person and it's not even a close match. Not trying to sound like a D### but he needs to take a step back and focus on becoming a great resource .
I'm in San Diego but I make frequent trips to Phoenix and as a matter of fact I may be relocating there very soon, I'll be back there for Christmas time. I can help you and Rob back on your feet by not only providing videos and pics from an unpaid and unbiased source(me) in which I'd be willing to slap together a video and take pics and put my own word out there, but at the same time I'm not going to put my name on something that's bad for this hobby. But please understand my words are harsh but I don't sugar coat nonsense, I'd really like to see more lambo kits hit the market again but with all these scammers and bad experiences it's killed it completely!
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I would get that video down before people start coming to colorado to have you killed or beat up, I don't know Rob but I know at least 3 people who have been screwed over by him, and a hand full over other claims of folks who have paid and recived nothing.
I don't make any accusation about anyone and I stear clear of drama, I make my own judgments based on my own experiences and I wouldn't dare do business with him just because a bad reputation is a review, I have yet to see a good review.
And the fact I know people that have been screwed legitimately by Rob. Btw flank I'm trying to get jets to finish my car and your right about how amazing his car was. Hopfully I can get him to agree to finish mine when I'm ready.
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I would get that video down before people start coming to colorado to have you killed or beat up, I don't know Rob but I know at least 3 people who have been screwed over by him, and a hand full over other claims of folks who have paid and recived nothing.
I don't make any accusation about anyone and I stear clear of drama, I make my own judgments based on my own experiences and I wouldn't dare do business with him just because a bad reputation is a review, I have yet to see a good review.
And the fact I know people that have been screwed legitimately by Rob. Btw flank I'm trying to get jets to finish my car and your right about how amazing his car was. Hopfully I can get him to agree to finish mine when I'm ready.
have me killed? whoa calm down. and btw when you gonna hit me up?
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As I sit here contemplating whether I want to be your first customer, it occurs to me that you never defined what the total cost was finally driven down to, and what exactly a quality build means (other than it had a Corvette motor). I would like a Diablo roadster. Please define the product, I have the $1,000.
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like i said i chose not to use rob. he has felonies i can clearly pull up and see.
So even with this quote above you still decided to make a video for Rob in which you say that building replicas is your business and that you are taking $1000.00 deposits? You also mention he is your friend. This is starting to not make any sense with what you have said during this whole thread.
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Pedro, realize also that he has moved from his stated objective of being a referral service to the contact number for contracting a build. This is why I am interested in being his first customer. Whoever he may subcontract with, if there becomes a problem with the subcontractor, it is his problem and not mine.
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This is just speculation but Rob probably promised him a free car if he brings in enough business. Sadly, Rob will likely rip off the customers and instead of getting a car he'll get sued.
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Are you guys saying wren is Robb?
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Madmods and Nickmkk, check the YouTube video linked in the FlankerG post. Wrenn is not the referral middleman, he and Rob have a business together that employs people to build these cars. All of the negotiation and contracting is referred to Wrenn and his Colorado number. Now that I am dealing with Wrenn, and with the price way down for a quality product, I am interested.
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So even with this quote above you still decided to make a video for Rob in which you say that building replicas is your business and that you are taking $1000.00 deposits? You also mention he is your friend. This is starting to not make any sense with what you have said during this whole thread.
just a video to add content to the site. No forms, no real anything yet until I find someone who has the qualities im looking to moving forward with. If anyone is actually trying to do this for a living and see my posting here, I hope they reach out because I am definitely the one to bring ANYONE with ANY BUSINESS to success. If you own ANY business please contact me I will show you how to be great ^^
Madmods and Nickmkk, check the YouTube video linked in the FlankerG post. Wrenn is not the referral middleman, he and Rob have a business together that employs people to build these cars. All of the negotiation and contracting is referred to Wrenn and his Colorado number. Now that I am dealing with Wrenn, and with the price way down for a quality product, I am interested.
- and no i don't do any business with Rob.. I wouldn't just because of his past, the only way I WOULD is if i went to arizona myself and micro managed his butt every day and that is just not feasible.
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if you have the money to invest because you do not?
why not spend a little money to visit shop builders?
any good and reputable builder will fall from heaven for you.
you know the story of the selling of milk?
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Wrenn, sorry I have misunderstood you again. In the video you say that "We have a Lambo replica business" with your "Friend Rob" and "$1,000 down will start the project". It sounded like you were in the Lambo replica business and taking $1,000 down to start one. Since you are not in the Lambo replica business and not taking orders, and still searching for a builder so that you can take orders, let me offer a few things. First, there are at best five people (companies) in the world with the knowledge, infrastructure, reputation, and volume that could benefit from your offer. If it has to be a Lambo replica, you are down to three, and only one left in the USA. Second, I cannot speak for the other four, but I am very certain that none of them would ever consider building a car as low as $80,000. Why should they? There is just no need to. Third, and again I cannot speak for them, but I will promise you that none of them will accept a $1,000 deposit to pull a body and start a chassis build.
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Wrenn, sorry I have misunderstood you again. In the video you say that "We have a Lambo replica business" with your "Friend Rob" and "$1,000 down will start the project". It sounded like you were in the Lambo replica business and taking $1,000 down to start one. Since you are not in the Lambo replica business and not taking orders, and still searching for a builder so that you can take orders, let me offer a few things. First, there are at best five people (companies) in the world with the knowledge, infrastructure, reputation, and volume that could benefit from your offer. If it has to be a Lambo replica, you are down to three, and only one left in the USA. Second, I cannot speak for the other four, but I am very certain that none of them would ever consider building a car as low as $80,000. Why should they? There is just no need to. Third, and again I cannot speak for them, but I will promise you that none of them will accept a $1,000 deposit to pull a body and start a chassis build.
yup i built the video "with little effort" before doing any contract with Rob. I was planning on doing more research on him but I was busy the week I was talking with him so I was pretty confident about him though and thought it was going to work out xD but since it didn't now I am looking again. I mean if it costs about 40k to build these and lets say it does take 200 man hours then hey thats not that bad. like a month at 50 hours a week... or even 30 hours a week for 2 months isn't bad. but in the end do you need 40 grand in profit to be happy? i mean if you had even half that at 60 k that is still 20 bands for each car that's built. and if you had the crew you can make them happen more often with a little assembly line. The wheel is not being reinvented here.. just a different model. I can bring in the customers.. and yes the cheaper the car then the more customers will come in and be happy to pay because of the availability to them.
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Wrenn the reviewer https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxdWYKxPh9U
I saw your YouTube video you did for Rob, to my experience understanding from marketing and business perspective his replicar business is basically on life support... Your the guy who's coming in to hopefully revive it.
If Rob wants to be big like he was once before he needs to get on Camera and address a lot of his wrong doings and own up. Not have someone else do it. Working for the Marine Corps we were taught customer service and that's what either makes and breaks a business. Rob needs to pull up his big boy pants and do it himself and cut out any middle men shielding him from anyone. Because anyone tied to Joe at Inland exotics has been proven to be cancerous to this community from scamming people out of money or providing them with a shitty product after charging someone 35k to build it.
The sad part is that Rob is more than capable of doing it. I believe he can! He has the talent to build cars, yet he keeps reinventing himself and falling back into his same old ways. Again I'm not knocking his business but I've sat on the kit car side lines for years now and this is what I'm seeing from him. Producing a video claiming you're legit is not the answer. Super replicas does the same thing, same with Las Vegas replicas and every other scammer who continues to kill the kit car industry for the worse.
Rob has a lot of work ahead of him and my advice is he for one needs to build products and actually sell them to people before claiming he's the best in the business, again he builds cool cars, best in the business? Hell no! Stop being so darn ignorant when people like Murcie-me and Jets303 just to name a few have built far more accurate cars in which I've seen in person, I've seen one of his products in person and it's not even a close match. Not trying to sound like a D### but he needs to take a step back and focus on becoming a great resource .
I'm in San Diego but I make frequent trips to Phoenix and as a matter of fact I may be relocating there very soon, I'll be back there for Christmas time. I can help you and Rob back on your feet by not only providing videos and pics from an unpaid and unbiased source(me) in which I'd be willing to slap together a video and take pics and put my own word out there, but at the same time I'm not going to put my name on something that's bad for this hobby. But please understand my words are harsh but I don't sugar coat nonsense, I'd really like to see more lambo kits hit the market again but with all these scammers and bad experiences it's killed it completely!
thanks for heads up but I have chosen not to work with rob, since he is real flaky and until i meet him in person it wouldn't work out. I mean hey if you want to introduce me to some people who actually do this so I can work out some business I would be happy to get it rolling. I got the site already built up and about to start ranking soon so I will be actively looking for good hard workers in this business!
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hmm 200hrs two months done , That would be awesome.
bur it may look like that
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I actually know Robb, got nothing against him, and never have. I have had beers with him. Sold him a supercharged car and parts throughout the years.
Wren, you strike me as someone trying to sell how to advertise your product stuff. I would consider you a spammer on here as I find this forum is meant for serious builders. Not really sure why everyone is giving you the attention they are.
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I mean if it costs about 40k to build these and lets say it does take 200 man hours then hey thats not that bad. like a month at 50 hours a week... or even 30 hours a week for 2 months isn't bad. but in the end do you need 40 grand in profit to be happy? i mean if you had even half that at 60 k that is still 20 bands for each car that's built. and if you had the crew you can make them happen more often with a little assembly line. The wheel is not being reinvented here.. just a different model. I can bring in the customers.. and yes the cheaper the car then the more customers will come in and be happy to pay because of the availability to them.
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You are seriously delusional if you think it will take only 40k and 200 man hours to build one of these.
Please, please don't insult the real builders here who know better than that.
If you had any idea of what it really takes to build a replica Lamborghini that a buyer would accept you would not even speak to real builders with this plan.
Have you even seen a replica builder's car? Have you asked them what it took to get it built? Have you even built a scale model car?
I do not mean to insult you. Please don't insult us.
Your plan is full of "I can make money off of these guys" without the reality of possibility.
Maybe a different site will be more receptive. Lamborghinis are the most difficult replicas to build and impossible to be made under your parameters and still have a car people will accept.
RT
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200 hours? Seriously? FYI Wrenn... more like 2500-3000 hours (or more...).
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I actually know Robb, got nothing against him, and never have. I have had beers with him. Sold him a supercharged car and parts throughout the years.
Wren, you strike me as someone trying to sell how to advertise your product stuff. I would consider you a spammer on here as I find this forum is meant for serious builders. Not really sure why everyone is giving you the attention they are.
-- hey whatever you think. I just know I can help anybody in the world..and hey I want a cool looking car so I know I can make someone lots of money by funneling all (if not a majoirty) of the work of building replica lambos to them. So yeah I am pretty useful but without the builder I can't make it happen, of course. But hey a spammer and made only one thread? hmmm not the most impressive post on here. I find a lot of people throwing their opinions out there and that really helps nobody. so I just reply to them letting them know whats up.
You are seriously delusional if you think it will take only 40k and 200 man hours to build one of these.
Please, please don't insult the real builders here who know better than that.
If you had any idea of what it really takes to build a replica Lamborghini that a buyer would accept you would not even speak to real builders with this plan.
Have you even seen a replica builder's car? Have you asked them what it took to get it built? Have you even built a scale model car?
I do not mean to insult you. Please don't insult us.
Your plan is full of "I can make money off of these guys" without the reality of possibility.
Maybe a different site will be more receptive. Lamborghinis are the most difficult replicas to build and impossible to be made under your parameters and still have a car people will accept.
RT
I do not care what parameters people think it takes to do anything, I am putting it out there what i want and if someone wants to help make it happen then they will. but so far it seems a lot of solo builders with no trust in anyone but some other fellow solo builders out there. That seem to think because they did something a certain way there is no way to do it better.. hmm what if all the legit people here actually combined efforts made a team whom dedicated to building? oh right I would assume most people here don't risk money to do what they want in life, they probably risk their life to get a controlled amount of money each month. That's the difference between me and most. don't get it twisted.no man is better than me they just dedicated their life in a different direction... why would I try to trace their footsteps when I can save years of time and just have them be successful? yeah I don't need to build anything because I will be able to afford the real thing soon, I just was trying this to see who actually had the gusto to make it happen. so far lots of talk. and if you think i was just here to make money i would have taken 76mx's offer on 2k a deal. but I didn't like the deal so I refused. Hey I believe in you guys, question is if you believe in you.
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I think I spent close to 120 hours just doing my doors and power windows lol. I think if Rob is going to be the builder, the customer should expect a painted car without doors
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Wrenn The Reviewer
Maybe I have you all wrong. You sound like someone with a lot of experience. Please fill us in on your experience and successes. That should remove all doubters and you could be taken more seriously.
Where are you from?
What education do you have?
How old are you?
What experience do you have in the automotive world?
What experience do you have in marketing?
What is your biggest achievement?
Are you married?
Do you have any children?
What do you drive?
If we feel more comfortable with you, you will be better received.
So how about it? Fill us in.
RT
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Wren,
Straight up-
(1)You came on here saying you can sell cars because your an expert on advertising.
(2)You said you wanted a replica so it would help your business.
(3)Your asking people for 1000 dollars down so they can have a replica. So now your selling them?
(4) My guess is you really live in Phoenix, I'll call Rob later this week to verify.
So who are you really. Do you really think someone here is going to send you a 1000 bucks so you can build them a car.
Don't mean to be harsh but Murci-me said it right. Another person coming on the forum... Your over your head son. I think your intention is get someone to hand you over a replica for your work. Replicas are not cheap. You need to start with at least 30,000 and expect a two+ year build
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Wrenn I gave you the websites of two legit builders
V8archie and kitcarmike
Since you're in Colorado I'll give you another one closer to you
Fieroking.com
These are all legit builders . And I'm guessing not one will work with you .
First of all the promotional video you did had the voice of a kid maybe 18-20 years old . I assume that's you .
Second of all even for a quick promo video the quality is terrible and any 12 year old with basic iMovie and YouTube skills can make a far better video . For $5 I can get a professional video made on fiverr.com
Third you keep talking about your search engine experience but provided absolutely no examples of your prior projects that were so successful. What business is going to partner with you with no proof of your capabilities ? Only another scammer like Rob. Your videos you've made a month ago for carpet cleaning companies have less then 5 views!! You have no YouTube following
Fourth , even if this was just a test video , you lost all credibility by promoting rob and making the false promises you made on that video !! Look, the majority of people who spend money on kit cars are here and you just proved yourself as a scammer looking to get $1000 deposits out of people when you don't even have a builder who will start any car for that much
Fifth , as stated it takes more like 2500 hours to build a lambo replica not 200 hours . Now you do the math and figure out how much it really costs to build these .
So what have we here ?
A kid with no experience , no business sense , no concept of the product they are trying to sell , no legit builder to partner with , asking for $1000 deposits
If you don't start coming clean the next phone call you can expect on your phone number is from the local authorities because what you are doing is known as WIRE FRAUD
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Wrenn The Reviewer has been ban from LamboClone for a multitude of reasons within this thread.
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Wrenn, sorry I have misunderstood you again. In the video you say that "We have a Lambo replica business" with your "Friend Rob" and "$1,000 down will start the project". It sounded like you were in the Lambo replica business and taking $1,000 down to start one. Since you are not in the Lambo replica business and not taking orders, and still searching for a builder so that you can take orders, let me offer a few things. First, there are at best five people (companies) in the world with the knowledge, infrastructure, reputation, and volume that could benefit from your offer. If it has to be a Lambo replica, you are down to three, and only one left in the USA. Second, I cannot speak for the other four, but I am very certain that none of them would ever consider building a car as low as $80,000. Why should they? There is just no need to. Third, and again I cannot speak for them, but I will promise you that none of them will accept a $1,000 deposit to pull a body and start a chassis build.
yup i built the video "with little effort" before doing any contract with Rob. I was planning on doing more research on him but I was busy the week I was talking with him so I was pretty confident about him though and thought it was going to work out xD but since it didn't now I am looking again. I mean if it costs about 40k to build these and lets say it does take 200 man hours then hey thats not that bad. like a month at 50 hours a week... or even 30 hours a week for 2 months isn't bad. but in the end do you need 40 grand in profit to be happy? i mean if you had even half that at 60 k that is still 20 bands for each car that's built. and if you had the crew you can make them happen more often with a little assembly line. The wheel is not being reinvented here.. just a different model. I can bring in the customers.. and yes the cheaper the car then the more customers will come in and be happy to pay because of the availability to them.
One of the reasons he was banned must be for failing Economics 101. Rather than invest $40,000 and sell a car for $80,000, he wants to double my amount of customers so I can sell them for $60,000 and make $20,000. And the second way I only make the same amount of money for twice the work BEFORE I PAY HIS COMMISSION. This reminds me of my two buddies that bought a truck and went into business by going down to the Valley and bringing back loads of watermelons to sell up here in the Metroplex. They were paying $2 per watermelon and selling them here for $1. At the end of the first day, they decided that they were going to need a bigger truck if they were going to be successful.
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Banned ::wave