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Title: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: Simple Man on November 13, 2016, 08:53:30 AM
Hello does anyone know of a source for oem sized window glass? Besides bull stuff.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: CCIE on November 13, 2016, 11:12:54 AM
I have very few sets remaining, but they are for Diablo coup
Have the quarter, window and windshields.
I can ship door glass now but cannot do windshields until I find a good source to build the crates and economical shipping for the windshields

Thanks
CCIE
yusha_2000@yahoo.com
Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: Simple Man on November 13, 2016, 11:34:13 AM
I am looking for murcielago door glass.
Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: CCIE on November 13, 2016, 12:59:20 PM
As far as I know!!!!

There is no such OE spec aftermarket glass out there for Murci. You are stuck with the Factory crazy pricing

Factory pricing are as follows   OUCH!!!!!!!!!!
   Side/quarter glass............... $2813.86 Each side
   Door Glass ......................... $1659.18 Each side
   Windshield.......................... $9959.33
And you don't even want to know for simple rubber gaskets and trims pricing
Can some one say RAPE!!!!

My butt hurts just thinking about the replacement cost but then again folks with OE cars can afford there crazy prices
Man I wish I was Filthy Rich. Who knows maybe I could also stand a chance to become a President (don't matter if they are repubes or Demoncrap)

CCIE



Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: ★Murci-Me★ on November 13, 2016, 04:46:46 PM
http://petesautomotiveglasscenter.com/custom-glass.html (http://petesautomotiveglasscenter.com/custom-glass.html)

Definitely worth a try to call them and see what they say. You wont have to modify your doors to accept OEM glass.
Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: Purple LP670 SV on November 13, 2016, 06:33:07 PM
FGP sells a good properly sized glass for a fraction of OEM!
Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: 76mx on November 13, 2016, 07:28:39 PM
CCIE, beg to differ. I have OE spec Murcie glass, accurate down to the built in radio antenna. I have sold it to Autopro and Purple among others on this Forum and still have two windshields from the last production run left, $900 each. I have not had any side glass made to go with them because I understood that this was already in process with other members, but if that is not the case, I can produce side glass and the prices will be in line with my $900 windshields. If you wanted actual OE glass, I sold a complete set a few months ago, still in the Lambo packing, for the price of an OE windshield. I threw in a Triangle G body and a complete NAERC frame along with it.   
Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: CCIE on November 13, 2016, 08:51:54 PM
CCIE, beg to differ. I have OE spec Murcie glass, accurate down to the built in radio antenna. I have sold it to Autopro and Purple among others on this Forum and still have two windshields from the last production run left, $900 each. I have not had any side glass made to go with them because I understood that this was already in process with other members, but if that is not the case, I can produce side glass and the prices will be in line with my $900 windshields. If you wanted actual OE glass, I sold a complete set a few months ago, still in the Lambo packing, for the price of an OE windshield. I threw in a Triangle G body and a complete NAERC frame along with it.   

My apology I did not know
I am glad you are able to produce the Murci Glass. I will let folks know you have it if they ask for the murci glass

CCIE
Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: Purple LP670 SV on November 13, 2016, 08:54:14 PM
Yes 76's windshields are spot on! Couldn't be happier, I should have been more specific FGP has good quality side glass, both door and quarter!
Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: CCIE on November 13, 2016, 08:58:45 PM
CCIE, beg to differ. I have OE spec Murcie glass, accurate down to the built in radio antenna. I have sold it to Autopro and Purple among others on this Forum and still have two windshields from the last production run left, $900 each. I have not had any side glass made to go with them because I understood that this was already in process with other members, but if that is not the case, I can produce side glass and the prices will be in line with my $900 windshields. If you wanted actual OE glass, I sold a complete set a few months ago, still in the Lambo packing, for the price of an OE windshield. I threw in a Triangle G body and a complete NAERC frame along with it.   

My apology I did not know
I am glad you are able to produce the Murci Glass. I will let folks know you have it if they ask for the murci glass

CCIE
Yes 76's windshields are spot on! Couldn't be happier, I should have been more specific FGP has good quality side glass, both door and quarter!
Yes 76's windshields are spot on! Couldn't be happier, I should have been more specific FGP has good quality side glass, both door and quarter!

Purple.... Are you talking about FGP from Poland?
Wow I can imagine the crating and shipping cost
Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: Purple LP670 SV on November 13, 2016, 09:28:26 PM
Yes, it's expensive that is why I did a group buy to help everyone cut shipping costs!  Probably be a little rough trying to purchase just one set!
Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: Simple Man on November 14, 2016, 10:18:22 AM
I can produce side glass and the prices will be in line with my $900 windshields. If you wanted actual OE glass, I sold a complete set a few months ago, still in the Lambo packing, for the price of an OE windshield. I threw in a Triangle G body and a complete NAERC frame along with it.

I could use the passenger and driver side door  glass for a murcielago.

That would be great!
Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: 76mx on November 15, 2016, 06:20:45 PM
I can produce side glass and the prices will be in line with my $900 windshields. If you wanted actual OE glass, I sold a complete set a few months ago, still in the Lambo packing, for the price of an OE windshield. I threw in a Triangle G body and a complete NAERC frame along with it.

I could use the passenger and driver side door  glass for a murcielago.

That would be great!

So didn't the group buy happen? Isn't there side glass available from it instead of me?
Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: Simple Man on November 16, 2016, 11:22:06 AM

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So didn't the group buy happen? Isn't there side glass available from it instead of me?
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My understanding, from a person who wanted a set,  is that it didnt happen and he was refunded his $'s.

Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: Purple LP670 SV on November 16, 2016, 05:41:38 PM
Are you referring to the group buy I had awhile back? It did happen but all that was ordered was enough to fulfill those interested at that time. I think 6 sets were ordered total and if I had ordered any more it would have been an added shipping cost similar to what you would get if you contacted them individually. Not sure that helps.
Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: Simple Man on November 16, 2016, 06:22:03 PM
Are you referring to the group buy I had awhile back? It did happen but all that was ordered was enough to fulfill those interested at that time. I think 6 sets were ordered total and if I had ordered any more it would have been an added shipping cost similar to what you would get if you contacted them individually. Not sure that helps.

No this group buy was for G28 side glass not OEM sized glass.

Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: 76mx on November 16, 2016, 10:14:47 PM
Let me try to understand all of this. G28 glass is different from Murcie glass? OEM seemed to fit in my G28 but this discussion as well as an email from SM seems to say differently. The group buy was for the different G28 glass? Not that it matters since it is all spoken for but I am still curious. Any glass that I can access would be OEM shape rather than G28, is this acceptable? I have looked at receipts, they are several years old, but apparently my Lambo dealer treats me better than CCIE's dealer. If I can get OEM glass at my target $900, is this acceptable? And if you do not mind my asking, what was the price of the FGP glass?
Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: Simple Man on November 17, 2016, 12:00:37 PM
Let me try to understand all of this. G28 glass is different from Murcie glass? OEM seemed to fit in my G28 but this discussion as well as an email from SM seems to say differently. The group buy was for the different G28 glass? Not that it matters since it is all spoken for but I am still curious. Any glass that I can access would be OEM shape rather than G28, is this acceptable? I have looked at receipts, they are several years old, but apparently my Lambo dealer treats me better than CCIE's dealer. If I can get OEM glass at my target $900, is this acceptable? And if you do not mind my asking, what was the price of the FGP glass?


Yes if you have a source for OEM side glass that would be great!!  How far down will an OEM window roll down into a G28 door?

This is my understanding in talking to MM over the last few months.

OEM glass is about 1-1/2" narrower.  The G28 door (glass opening) can be modified to be smaller/ narrower by increasing the side mirror mounting point to OEM size mounting points.

The group buy was for G28 glass not OEM that fell through, and G28 at this time is not a viable option. this is from the seller of the car and he was refunded his $'s

The car that I have has working saturn windows but it is kinda funky with the angle being off and no window channel. (see attached picture)

That is what my understanding is,

Thanks!!


Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: 76mx on November 17, 2016, 07:10:47 PM
I can do $1,800 for a pair of OEM windows, but without knowing their price, it still looks to me like the FGP windows would be the better deal (even with shipping), and they fit the G28. What is the minimum FGP production run and how much are they? Anyone? For me to have my windshield source make them, there is a minimum production of 10 pairs but the cost would go way way down. I have no desire to sit on 9 pairs, but on the other hand, I am willing to sell one set of them at $1,800 and pocket the other nine pairs.
Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: ★Murci-Me★ on November 17, 2016, 09:55:49 PM
I originally offered custom tempered glass for the G28 door windows. I had it made by a place in Ohio that was willing to sell me small quantities after the $1500 setup charge for the forms. I originally ordered 10 sets and sold them off quickly (back when everybody was building G28's). The place notified me a few years back that they would no longer be able to supply me with small orders (under 500 pieces), so if I needed more I had to order right away before the deadline. I offered to do a group buy to cut the cost down but hardly anybody wanted them (1 person). So now, they will no longer make the glass for me unless I order 500 pieces.
There is no way OEM Murcielago glass will fit a G28 door without modifications. OEM glass is almost 2" shorter in length than the G28 window opening, and about 1-1/2" taller. The problem lies with the mirror mount area on the G28 door. Its about 2" smaller than the OEM mirror mount area, which is why OEM mirrors don't fit the G28 door unless they too are modified to accept it.
Yes, you can put OEM glass in a G28 door but you have to modify the door by lengthening the mirror mount area (then use either OEM mirrors or modified G28 mirrors). Since OEM glass is taller than the window opening on a G28, it wont retract all the way down into the door. I have G28 glass in my door and when the window is down as far as it will go, it sticks up about 2" above the window sill. If you use OEM glass which is 2" taller than G28 glass, it will sit up about 4" above the sill when fully retracted into the door as far as it will go down.
And BTW, whoever is saying that Saturn door glass will fit the G28 is dead WRONG. The geometry of the Saturn glass has a forward raked front and rear edge going from the top to the bottom. The Murcielago (OEM or G28) has a near 90 degrees vertical front and rear edge. Unless you want to change the shape of your window opening to have a slanted front and rear edge there is no way to make it work.
Part of the reason I seldom come on these forums anymore is because of all the misinformation and bad advice I see being given to builders by people who have no clue what the facts are or have any experience in the area they are speaking about.
Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: AdrianBurton on November 18, 2016, 10:48:13 AM
Mike
This is EXACTLY why yours and voices like yours are needed to correct the bad info
Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: Simple Man on November 23, 2016, 02:09:09 PM
FGP has an aftermarket glass.

I let you all know how this transaction goes when I get the windows.

Thanks to all who commented, much appreciated!!
Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: ★Murci-Me★ on November 23, 2016, 10:56:38 PM
Probably laminated glass, not tempered.
Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: Simple Man on November 24, 2016, 07:56:16 AM
Probably laminated glass, not tempered.

Good question! PP invoice hasn't been paid yet, and I would want tempered.

Happy Thanksgiving!!
Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: Simple Man on November 24, 2016, 08:57:39 AM
Just received an email and the glass is tempered.
Title: Re: Aftermarket source for oem size window glass
Post by: 88.5countach on November 28, 2016, 11:53:23 AM
Wow that is some build, will certainly be watching.