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The Forum => New Member Introductions & Bio's => Topic started by: LP on January 16, 2013, 06:22:06 PM
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Hi,
I am thinking about buying Rob's Lamborghini murcielago kit from Arizona, but this is a big move, I have been on here here and this is a great site with lots of info so I finally decided to join and contribute.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Replica-Kit-Makes-LAMBORGHINI-Lamborghini-Replica-Kit-Car-Lamborghini-kit-car-/111000683034?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item19d828021a (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Replica-Kit-Makes-LAMBORGHINI-Lamborghini-Replica-Kit-Car-Lamborghini-kit-car-/111000683034?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item19d828021a)
Headlight rings
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lamborghini-Replica-head-light-rings-/110998555973?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19d8078d45&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lamborghini-Replica-head-light-rings-/110998555973?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19d8078d45&vxp=mtr)
Steering wheel WOW Nice
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lamborghini-Murcielago-and-Reventon-Next-Gen-replica-steering-wheel-Complete-/261154124958?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3ALamborghini&hash=item3ccdffb49e&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lamborghini-Murcielago-and-Reventon-Next-Gen-replica-steering-wheel-Complete-/261154124958?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3ALamborghini&hash=item3ccdffb49e&vxp=mtr)
Headlights
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lamborghini-Replica-head-light-rings-and-top-light-plates-/110998556173?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19d8078e0d&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lamborghini-Replica-head-light-rings-and-top-light-plates-/110998556173?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19d8078e0d&vxp=mtr)
I live in Maysville KY and no one around me has a Lambo so I can't wait to be driving my car but I know I have a long long way to go.
Thk
Joe
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Welcome to the site Joe! When you say you're interested in purchasing a kit from Rob/Joe, you're referring to buying a "G28" kit. We recently had a discussion about that kit in another thread on this site and came to the conclusion that kit is completely unacceptable nowadays.
See thread:
http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=472.0 (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=472.0)
I am the alternative to Rob/Joe & Carkit Inc. I offer the OEM dimension body. Below are the additional parts included with the purchase of my kit:
-Door Hinges
-Hood Hinges
-Hatch Hinges
-Batwing Hinges
Plus tons of tech support and pictures to help make the build experience stressless.
Thanks
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@ Lambojayso....I am definitely keeping an eye on your parts and people that buy your parts for their builds. I can attest to the fact that the G-28 body from car kit inc need tremendous amount of work. And aloso that Robs body, although better, still has alot of work to it. It can be done but at the greatest expense of personal labor. I would definitely consider thinking very hard about what kit to buy the second time around. Definitely paying a little more for an accurate and better fitting parts is a no brainer after all that I have had to do to my body to get it to where its at. And as I may point out myself....no matter what I endevour....I will hardly be even close to OEM in the end....although I will have a good looking car. But no matter what, I will have worked my butt off to even come close to a respectable representation of the real deal.
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@ Lambojayso....I am definitely keeping an eye on your parts and people that buy your parts for their builds. I can attest to the fact that the G-28 body from car kit inc need tremendous amount of work. And aloso that Robs body, although better, still has alot of work to it. It can be done but at the greatest expense of personal labor. I would definitely consider thinking very hard about what kit to buy the second time around. Definitely paying a little more for an accurate and better fitting parts is a no brainer after all that I have had to do to my body to get it to where its at. And as I may point out myself....no matter what I endevour....I will hardly be even close to OEM in the end....although I will have a good looking car. But no matter what, I will have worked my butt off to even come close to a respectable representation of the real deal.
What's up MDMurcy2, I hope all is well with the family. You did say before that your first build was just to gain the experience, sell it, then apply what you've learned to your second build. Which is precisely the predicament I find myself in today. Everyday I work on my car, I'm always amazed at how well the Fiero chassis matches up to the OEM body without any major modifications. I will soon have an update in my build thread. MDMurcy, I'll be here when you're ready to do the upgrade.
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@LP.....And LamboJayso.....Not to steal your thread. I just posted so that you really invest time into research. Choosing the kit of your dreams and budget is a huge step. I am building on the MR2 instead of the Fiero. It has its plus and negatives. I Will likely build on a Fiero next time around. More parts availability and definitely more support in the forums. @ LamboJayso....my family is well. Thanks. My build is finally getting back into progress. LP....definitely enjoy your build....and this forum will definitely be a great source of knowledge for you to utilize. These guys are great at helping with many views into all aspects of your project. Good luck LP and look forward to seeing your build thread when you get started.
Mitch
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Well "LP", I hope you have deep pockets for this build! That body is a ton of work. Dont be fooled by the pretty orange paint, its actually just expensive primer. 100% of it will have to be sanded away to do the bodywork, allign and mount the doors, redo the headlights properly and so on. That car is about 15% finished, Rob just sands the body, mounts and paints it, none of the real work is done and for good reason if you know Rob.
The headlight rings you posted a link to are cr@p, and way overpriced (over double). The "brows" are not worth the money either, and the wrong shape/dimension.
A word to the wise: Dont ever buy parts from a person who has never actually installed them in a passable manner on the car they are meant to.
LamboJayso has built a complete car, start to finish, and can speak from experience. Rob never has.
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Well "LP", I hope you have deep pockets for this build! That body is a ton of work. Dont be fooled by the pretty orange paint, its actually just expensive primer. 100% of it will have to be sanded away to do the bodywork, allign and mount the doors, redo the headlights properly and so on. That car is about 15% finished, Rob just sands the body, mounts and paints it, none of the real work is done and for good reason if you know Rob.
The headlight rings you posted a link to are cr@p, and way overpriced (over double). The "brows" are not worth the money either, and the wrong shape/dimension.
A word to the wise: Dont ever buy parts from a person who has never actually installed them in a passable manner on the car they are meant to.
LamboJayso has built a complete car, start to finish, and can speak from experience. Rob never has.
Like preaching to the choir, excellent stuff MM.
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:)
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Hello. I am a recent joiner of the forum as well, and have found everyone very helpful. Best of luck in your build.
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LP/Joe, please, Please!, PLEASE!!! did I say P L E A S E? Do your homework before you buy! This forum is tops, hands down. Talk to someone who has been there. There are many right here on this forum who can set you straight on who to deal with.
Jim
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Personally I say stay clear of robs build, nothing against him. but the way I see it is, if you can't fab up some simple hinges and mechs to install on a door, how do you expect to fab up load bearing parts to fit a body and frame. Buying a kit with out the door on is a big give away too, you need to be able to see the body line to make sure its correct and the panel will line up. There is going to be tons and tons of work for you too correct once you install the doors on. Honestly who can't mount a door??? as you already know, most of the door frames are warped, most guys on here can tell you that from experience. So before you buy anything, have a look at it in person
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I saw Steve (Triangle-G) today and he has a G28L Roadster already mounted on a stretched Fiero (V6 auto trans) that he is trying to sell. He's asking 13K, but I bet he'll take 11K or even less if someone is serious about buying. It was a build someone commisioned him to do and and they stopped paying, so he leined the car for the work done and got ownership back. It includes a full G40 interior, and lots of other parts.
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I saw Steve (Triangle-G) today and he has a G28L Roadster already mounted on a stretched Fiero (V6 auto trans) that he is trying to sell. He's asking 13K, but I bet he'll take 11K or even less if someone is serious about buying. It was a build someone commisioned him to do and and they stopped paying, so he leined the car for the work done and got ownership back. It includes a full G40 interior, and lots of other parts.
This sounds like an awesome deal for someone!
Chris
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Its a great first build for someone, or can be easily converted to a high-end replica. The headlights are even already done on it lol!
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Its a great first build for someone, or can be easily converted to a high-end replica. The headlights are even already done on it lol!
Hey Mike... have Steve join the site or send you some pictures and details on this car so we can post it in the "For Sale" section and help him sell it while helping a member here. It would be good to have the "father of the G28" here on the site. ::K
Thanks,
Chris
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I'll ask him, but I cant guarantee anything. He's not much of a computer guy.
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Not to throw the thread off track but Rob didn't build that chrome replica. He bought it nearly complete and had it wrapped. Ill try to find a link to the thread about it....
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i think cki is more a step in front of rob as far as completing a car
but if you want to buy an oem style body you might want to talk to john watson and see what he plans on doing with his moulds and parts in the future because according to him, he has not given then or sold them to ANYONE yet nor has any such decision been 100% locked in.
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Lets set the facts straight
Rob had never ever completed one of his bodies
His finished cars were really the abandoned projects of other people that he bought and finished up
John Watson has also never finished one of his murci bodied cars and no one who had bought a body from John Watson has ever finished their car
CKI and Triangle G are the only body makers that have ever resulted in finished cars in the USA . Cki had a company finished 3-4 of them and Steve terteryan of Triangle G has finished at least two if not more
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Lets set the facts straight
Rob had never ever completed one of his bodies
His finished cars were really the abandoned projects of other people that he bought and finished up
John Watson has also never finished one of his murci bodied cars and no one who had bought a body from John Watson has ever finished their car
CKI and Triangle G are the only body makers that have ever resulted in finished cars in the USA . Cki had a company finished 3-4 of them and Steve terteryan of Triangle G has finished at least two if not more
Steve (Triangle-G) has built 6 cars (3 coupes and 3 roadsters)
VF1Skull came and visited me today, so we went over to Steves so he could see Steves finished G28L roadster. Its a beautifull car, but like all of Steves builds they are just for show, nothing works (he did make the batwings work on this one though). The car also has the standard G28 interior, nowhere near accurate but nicely done.
I too have never seen a completed A/D body, and Yes, Rob has never built let alone completed a car (attaching a body to a chassis is not "building").
If anybody wanted a basic G28 built, Steve told me he's available. His roadster is also for sale for 60K, and that includes the other car I previously mentioned and a complete set of moulds for the G28 interior (the moulds for the interior can also be bought from him for $500).
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This will be a completed AD body car very soon... I did op to have installed OEM doors and and engine cover with the OEM piece that goes behind the bonnett, this car will go to paint very soon.
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Lets set the facts straight
Rob had never ever completed one of his bodies
His finished cars were really the abandoned projects of other people that he bought and finished up
John Watson has also never finished one of his murci bodied cars and no one who had bought a body from John Watson has ever finished their car
CKI and Triangle G are the only body makers that have ever resulted in finished cars in the USA . Cki had a company finished 3-4 of them and Steve terteryan of Triangle G has finished at least two if not more
i think cki is more a step in front of rob as far as completing a car
but if you want to buy an oem style body you might want to talk to john watson and see what he plans on doing with his moulds and parts in the future because according to him, he has not given then or sold them to ANYONE yet nor has any such decision been 100% locked in.
Yup.
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The AD car posted is just the AD body the Fabicator is someone totally different and very talented, I can share any info you would like about the work and how great this Fabicator is if you want to PM me, but just so I'm clear with what I posted this is a AD body that will be completed soon, I'm fairly new to building a complete car and can say the time, cost, and the quality of some of the parts and workmanship is sometimes hard to deal with but,I can honestly say the guy doing my fab work has been great to work with and has followed through on everything he has promised. I wish the best for everyone's build and much success on completing their dream car.
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The AD car posted is just the AD body the Fabicator is someone totally different and very talented, I can share any info you would like about the work and how great this Fabicator is if you want to PM me, but just so I'm clear with what I posted this is a AD body that will be completed soon, I'm fairly new to building a complete car and can say the time, cost, and the quality of some of the parts and workmanship is sometimes hard to deal with but,I can honestly say the guy doing my fab work has been great to work with and has followed through on everything he has promised. I wish the best for everyone's build and much success on completing their dream car.
When you say "soon", what is the timeframe you estimate?
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The pic is a few weeks old, the car will go to paint by the 10th of Feb then to the interior guy, the interior is about 90% OEM seats have to be covered door panels, and dash, all the other parts are new or next to new, I had a custom insturment cluster done that is using the OEM housing but will have custom gauges that will be placed in a machined instrument face, will look very close to the murcie as the gauge faces where custom done... door glass is OEM, inner fender wells are OEM, tailights, head lights are OEM...
Chassis is 100% custom, brakes are ZO6, LS 2 engine (545 hp), Porsche transaxle, 180 degree headers, I will be posting a bunch of pics this week, hope to have car ready,driving by March 1...
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Awesome !!
This will be the first AD murci finished , your chassis looks great can't wait to see it finished
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The pic is a few weeks old, the car will go to paint by the 10th of Feb then to the interior guy, the interior is about 90% OEM seats have to be covered door panels, and dash, all the other parts are new or next to new, I had a custom insturment cluster done that is using the OEM housing but will have custom gauges that will be placed in a machined instrument face, will look very close to the murcie as the gauge faces where custom done... door glass is OEM, inner fender wells are OEM, tailights, head lights are OEM...
Chassis is 100% custom, brakes are ZO6, LS 2 engine (545 hp), Porsche transaxle, 180 degree headers, I will be posting a bunch of pics this week, hope to have car ready,driving by March 1...
Jamack, this sounds awesome. If you dont mind, what kind of money have put into this build? Just so others can know what to expect if they ever want to tackle a build like this. Thanks and if not i understand and thanks anyway.
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Lol
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I'm sure there is allot of guys on here that could answer the cost better than I can, reading some of the post it seems that going with a donor is cheaper and you have to do a lot less, after the approach I have taken I can say this. I would have for sure purchased the Gallardo and had the wide body kit installed or bought a driving wrecked murcie and went from there, ultimately the question to my cost or any other enthusiast cost can vary greatly and I think to list the cost of one build compared to another may cause some guys not to try and build their dream car, I'm sure there are cars built for 20k and others at 50k and then the extreme of building a car that is just shy of having OEM drive tran that can reach 80k +, my point is I 'm glad to share with anyone all the info we have accumulated during this process and the cost if you pm me with your questions, I can say this I chose to build a car more so to enjoy a learning experience with my son and along the way we have met and dealt with some great and not so great folks in the automotive world, something my son said to me a couple of weeks ago was the guys dealing in the kit car world do things a little different then the guys we deal with on our muscle cars. There is allot of post about certain manufactures and I can say this without a doubt after buying parts from different ones that there is only a few that have followed through with what they say or do and that alone can cost you more when doing your car...
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::beers
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Wow since "LP" created this thread we haven't heard anything else from him. You know I experience this alot, alot of ppl call me up asking a 101 questions but never pull the trigger on anything. Can anyone tell me why ppl do this?
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Jayso can you respond to this where Tallon says Watson has not sold AD production of murci shells off to you?
you might want to talk to john watson and see what he plans on doing with his moulds and parts in the future because according to him, he has not given then or sold them to ANYONE yet nor has any such decision been 100% locked in.
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Tusabes you think the front engine mercy 4 kit carkit inc makes look "good" ( :( ) but to answer your question, John has his few obligations like Tallon, No Bull etc... to take care of first. After that's completed then I'll pick "them" up. BUT, this doesn't prevent anyone from leaving a deposit on a kit to be made. Honestly, if someone did buy a kit the obligations John has would get completed faster b/c then I would fly down again and help him out b/c he's experiencing health problems.
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Wow since "LP" created this thread we haven't heard anything else from him. You know I experience this alot, alot of ppl call me up asking a 101 questions but never pull the trigger on anything. Can anyone tell me why ppl do this?
They're called "kitcar groupies" Jay, so get use to it lol. I remember when I was on MM, and people would contact me about parts. I heard endless stories about what they're gonna build, how much better it was gonna be than everyone elses, and so on. They never bought a part though. They just wanted to be in the loop.
Dont get discouraged, every business/seller goes through this, alot of window shoppers. ;)
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They're called "kitcar groupies" Jay, so get use to it lol. I remember when I was on MM, and people would contact me about parts. I heard endless stories about what they're gonna build, how much better it was gonna be than everyone elses, and so on. They never bought a part though. They just wanted to be in the loop.
Dont get discouraged, every business/seller goes through this, alot of window shoppers. ;)
Yea I know, but these ppl must know before hand whether or not they can afford to do it. Window shoppers do just that, they stand outside where it's cold looking in at what they wish they could buy. They don't go inside the store knowing very well they can't afford it asking a 101 questions only to walk out with nothing.
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Oh yes they do! I cant tell you how many times i've seen people in the Lambo dealership by my house asking a ton of questions about the car, never having any intention or money to buy. You see it all the time, people walking around in expensive stores not buying a thing, just hanging out to be seen there. Same thing on these forums.
I laugh when I see "plus size" girls walking around in the "Petite Casual" store in the mall. Once again, wishfull thinking I guess.
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Those ppl who do go inside the store wasting time need some serious psychological examination.
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My take is if someone builds a complete kit- body, interior, and have all the small parts to get the car to a certain stage would be a great start, because when building one of these cars you have to get things from so many different individuals just to get to stage one, if Jay, and it looks like he has a great start or anyone would build a COMPLETE kit not just the fiber glass and offer it in stages I think they could have the Lambo Replica market. Lots of hype about different levels of quality and types of kits but if you go to market and try to buy a complete kit off the shelf there is no one that can do it except GTM,RCR, or a street rod company and that somewhat causes a potenial buyer to think twice, as we are for sure the spure of the moment type buyers and we want it now.. To the point of tire kickers, they are in every aspect of the automotive world, I have guys call me daily that are going to wire money or fly in to buy one of our cars, it always seems to be more so with the muscle cars then street rods, every single street rod I have had sold without much drama, street machines usally has a few more dreamers not sure on a finished kit car but, I guess we will find out...