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How To - Tips => Doors => Topic started by: autopro on May 04, 2012, 12:59:23 AM
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I've read that the Mercedes door latch and striker are the ones to use for the Murcielago. There are several models but no specific information that I could find. I was able to narrow it down to a latch that is externally mounted from a W114, W115 or W116 body. Does anyone know exactly which one it is and from what years cars they come from?
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I will be using a set on my G28 from a 450SL otherwise known as 107. Depending on how much work you want to put into them, you can mount them on the inside of the door or make an internal frame / plate and cut away the section of door which will expose them more like an OEM door (see the replica and OEM pictures below).
(http://lamboclone.com/pictures/latch.jpg)
(http://lamboclone.com/pictures/latch2.jpg)
(http://lamboclone.com/pictures/striker.jpg)
(http://lamboclone.com/pictures/plates.jpg)
Installed on a replica:
(http://lamboclone.com/pictures/mounted.jpg)
What a OEM door looks like:
(http://lamboclone.com/pictures/mounted2.jpg)
Chris
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This one is correct.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-BENZ-1977-240D-W123-PASSENGER-REAR-DOOR-LATCH-W-SAFETY-STRIKER-PLATE-/380433117248?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item589394b040#ht_500wt_1180 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-BENZ-1977-240D-W123-PASSENGER-REAR-DOOR-LATCH-W-SAFETY-STRIKER-PLATE-/380433117248?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item589394b040#ht_500wt_1180)
This one is correct.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-BENZ-1977-240D-W123-DRIVER-SIDE-FRONT-DOOR-LATCH-W-ARM-INSIDE-HANDLE-/380433102245?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item58939475a5#ht_500wt_1180 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-BENZ-1977-240D-W123-DRIVER-SIDE-FRONT-DOOR-LATCH-W-ARM-INSIDE-HANDLE-/380433102245?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item58939475a5#ht_500wt_1180)
This one is correct.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-BENZ-1977-240D-W123-REAR-DRIVER-SIDE-DOOR-LATCH-W-CHILD-SAFETY-/380433102283?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item58939475cb#ht_500wt_1180 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-BENZ-1977-240D-W123-REAR-DRIVER-SIDE-DOOR-LATCH-W-CHILD-SAFETY-/380433102283?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item58939475cb#ht_500wt_1180)
This one is correct.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/W108-MERCEDES-BENZ-DOOR-LOCK-LATCH-front-driver-side-/130687900457?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item1e6d9b1b29#ht_500wt_1180 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/W108-MERCEDES-BENZ-DOOR-LOCK-LATCH-front-driver-side-/130687900457?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item1e6d9b1b29#ht_500wt_1180)
There are many that look similar but the one you want has a lever that you push down on from the top.
Notice in the pics below the early Diablos had the latches mounted with the striker cut out outboard.
The Roadsters, 6.0 and Murcielago had then mounted inboard.
Mid 90's VT
(http://lambocars.com/images/diablo/diavt71.jpg)
1999 Roadster Diablo
(http://lambocars.com/images/diablo/diavtr43.jpg)
2001 6.0 Diablo
(http://lambocars.com/images/diablo/dia60304.jpg)
Murcielago
(http://lambocars.com/images/murcielago/mur78.jpg)
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I will be using a set on my G28 from a 450SL otherwise known as 107. Depending on how much work you want to put into them, you can mount them on the inside of the door or make an internal frame / plate and cut away the section of door which will expose them more like an OEM door (see the replica and OEM pictures below).
Chris
I definitely want to mount them on the outside of the door so they look more original. Thanks for the info.
There are many that look similar but the one you want has a lever that you push down on from the top.
Notice in the pics below the early Diablos had the latches mounted with the striker cut out outboard.
The Roadsters, 6.0 and Murcielago had then mounted inboard.
Wow I never noticed that, that is very good to know. So by the links you sent me it doesn’t matter if I purchase the latches from the rear doors correct? I would much rather buy those since they probably got a lot less use.
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Our g28's use the internal latches because of how the doors are. But autopro you will have an oem door so I'm guessing you will need the diablo style latches.
g28 latches are 126, striker has the guide formed on them
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-126-DOOR-STRIKER-500SEC-560SEC-500SEL-COUPE-/300196687542?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item45e51deeb6&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-126-DOOR-STRIKER-500SEC-560SEC-500SEL-COUPE-/300196687542?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item45e51deeb6&vxp=mtr)
(not for watson body or diablo)
murcie-me has told us to use these latches
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No Bull, I had never seen one with the reverse release. That would be perfect for my Countach, I believe. I have limited space and the release is pushed up in the frame, this would solve that problem.
Great find.
Grant
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Our g28's use the internal latches because of how the doors are. But autopro you will have an oem door so I'm guessing you will need the diablo style latches.
g28 latches are 126, striker has the guide formed on them
[url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-126-DOOR-STRIKER-500SEC-560SEC-500SEL-COUPE-/300196687542?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item45e51deeb6&vxp=mtr[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-126-DOOR-STRIKER-500SEC-560SEC-500SEL-COUPE-/300196687542?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item45e51deeb6&vxp=mtr[/url])
(not for watson body or diablo)
murcie-me has told us to use these latches
Those are correct, the others wont work on G28 doors.
As far as OEM goes, Diablos and Murcielagos use the same latch, externally mounted on the door. If you have a G28 door, you can modify it to accept an external mount latch, but I wouldn't recommend it.
The striker Tallon posted is correct for G28 applications, it has the guide built in. G28's were designed to use the internal mounted latch, mounted the same as the car they are salvaged from.
2 latches and 2 strikes cost $60 if anybody needs them.
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I think they look better hidden inside the door anyway
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Hey guys, which one is for John Watson? Which one fits the real one the best?
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has anyone ever seen doors that you just shut partially and there is an actuator or whatever and it snugs it up to where it latches? Also, seen similar thing with trunk latches too. I was looking at this option but I don't know the mechanics of it and how much space you need to install something like this. Can anyone point me to some more info on this mechanism and where to buy?
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Some of the BMW 745 and 760's have these features, they are called soft close doors same concept as the trunk closing you are talking about
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Neat idea. Some camaros have that type of latch on the deck lid. My 91 z28 has it.
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Tell me more about these soft close latches. I probably don't have mine lined up right or they're worn or something, but it's embarrassing how hard I have to close them sometimes.
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You have to be very careful about using a pull-down motor drive to close your doors. Once they start pulling they will continue until fully closed even if your fingers or your passenger's fingers or anything is in the way.
I know there will be responses to this post saying it isn't a problem but it has happened where a nice girl had her fingers smashed.
Think about it before you put a lot of work and money into it.
RT
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You have to be very careful about using a pull-down motor drive to close your doors. Once they start pulling they will continue until fully closed even if your fingers or your passenger's fingers or anything is in the way.
I know there will be responses to this post saying it isn't a problem but it has happened where a nice girl had her fingers smashed.
Think about it before you put a lot of work and money into it.
RT
Thanks everyone for the responses. about smashing fingers and such. I understand the concern....of course if their fingers are in the wrong spot whether you have the soft close doors or not they'll suffer the same fate with slamming the door too. ::angel
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Tell me more about these soft close latches. I probably don't have mine lined up right or they're worn or something, but it's embarrassing how hard I have to close them sometimes.
Hey Dratts,
Basically they work like this....you close the door until the latch engages the first click (latched partially but not fully latched) and then that will start the mechanism that fully latches the door. I've seen them on custom cars and such where they don't want to have their doors slammed they have this mechanism installed and you can just "softly" close the door and the mechanism takes care of the rest. It would definantly help out in your situation as well as mine. I just hope it's applicable.
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Are we still talking theoretical here or has anyone ever installed one on a Murci?
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Are we still talking theoretical here or has anyone ever installed one on a Murci?
You be the first, then make a How To thread so we can do this idea also :D
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Are we still talking theoretical here or has anyone ever installed one on a Murci?
Unfortunately, still in the theoretical phase of development ::huh
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If you mount your latch inside of your door inner panel, you run the risk of hitting the striker when closing the door. Notice in the following picture that Nobull posted that the thick fiberglass moves the latch forward and requires you to shim your striker forward to match. Thus the scraped paint job by the latch. Also, MAKE SURE that you get the matching strikers for your latches when you buy them. ::thumbup
(http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab295/lambeiro/9999556/Lambo%20Pictures/mounted.jpg)
Jim
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I just bought a Cadillac trunk mechanism on eBay to see if I can make it work. I'm thinking that the motorized part would have to go into the door and the solenoid latch release would have to go into the rocker panel. When I went to pull and save they had destroyed all of the motorized parts to get the trunk open. I looked at a dozen cars and all were destroyed.
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Is this the summary?
For a G28 Body, one should use Mercedes W126 Latch & matching Striker. And either Front and Rear Door Latches and Strikers will work fine as long as they are a matching set.
Oh. and as of Today, who has Extra Sets? Mercie-Me still got an extra set?
Thanks
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Yes ::wave
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merci me I pm'd you for those. do u also have the headlight rings? and what else do u have ::wave
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Got these at the yard today
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As requested some close up shots of the back.