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Title: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: plans4sale on March 16, 2013, 11:04:54 PM
 Hi Guys, I'm Bobi1 from the Madmechanics forum. I just found this nice forum after reading post at Madmechanics with a link redirecting here.

 I'm almost ready with Aventador plans for building body plug with wooden cross sections. This is NOT just some quick projection of sections on the 3d model for a few minutes, like other people trying to sell plans do. I always add lots of additional details, make channels, ribs, holes etc, and my plans are 100% usable. The amount of work is huge. The cross sections I arranged at variable distance in order to provide useful information, such like where the door openings and window openings start and end, to name a few. There are 7 mm deep and 7 mm wide channels to mark the location of all body panel gaps. They are all hand drawn by me as well. It's supposed that builders will cover the wooden/foam plug with up to 2 mm thick layer of hard coat and body filler, so the 7 mm wide gaps on the wooden formers will become 3 mm on the fine finished plug, and 5 mm deep. Perfect for easy release of the moulds. I also add thin lines at each edge (aka "crease line" in the cardesign field) where the degree is too small, so using these guide lines you will know there MUST be an edge in that particular location even though it may look nearly smooth.
 For my cross section plans I'm using the 3d model of Lamborghini Aventador extracted by the video game "Forza Motorsport 4" which is low-poly, but is probably the most accurate 3d model of the car and I also improved the shape in some areas to make it even more accurate. Since the 3d model is low-poly Mesh, I had to manually redraw the extracted cross sections using curve approximation technique to get perfectly smooth curves that a 3d Mesh model itself can't.
 I make curve approximation and setup the plans to be able for printing on large paper size such like the European standard A0, or similar (suggestions here for American standard?). The plans are in AutoCAD's native DWG file format used by all modern plotters, printers and projectors, and popular CAD software as well.

 Current pre-order price is set to 100 USD / 75 EUR, and once the plans are completed* they will cost 200 USD / 150 EUR. Also, people who purchase(d) my Aventador chassis plans will receive the body plug plans for free.

 *in about one-two weeks depending on how long the curve approximation will take

 You can contact me at e-mail: chassis_plans_4_sale at yahoo dot com

 Shown below are some examples of plans I made for IKR's Reventon plug 4 years ago, just to show you the details I draw additionally on the cross sections and how the corresponding wooden pieces "lock" together with ease thanks to the additionally designed ribs and channels.

 PS: Please, note that there are couple of almost-finished Aventador body plugs made out of foam that some other guys at Madmechanics are currently making, so consider carefully if you want to start building of Aventador plug from scratch, OR just wait a while for some fiberglass kit to be offered on the market. Building plug and moulds by yourself is not recommended unless you are experienced and know you can handle this type of work.

 (example of the curve approximation I do)
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/5218/curveapproximation1.png (http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/5218/curveapproximation1.png)
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4142/curveapproximation2.png (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4142/curveapproximation2.png)

 (examples of wooden cross sections designed by me)
http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/1338/dsc01893hy.jpg (http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/1338/dsc01893hy.jpg)
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5105/33939964.png (http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5105/33939964.png)
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/7780/dsc02159qa.jpg (http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/7780/dsc02159qa.jpg)
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/3133/dsc02254g.jpg (http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/3133/dsc02254g.jpg)
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/9181/dsc02163br.jpg (http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/9181/dsc02163br.jpg)
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5820/dsc02228p.jpg (http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5820/dsc02228p.jpg)



UPDATE

 Current pre-order price for the Aventador body plug plans is 150 USD / 110 EUR. From 22 September they will cost 200 USD / 150 EUR.
 People who already purchased or pre-order my Aventador chassis plans before 22 September will receive the body plug plans for free.

 The 3d Mesh game model from "Forza motorsport 4" which I heavily modified in the recent months is no longer used for extracting the cross-sections. It was too much pain to work with it to make it accurate. Instead, I'm designing a completelly new 3d model using NURBS, in order to achieve best possible accuracy/surface quality of the body and cross-section drawings for building the plug. This lead to about two-week delay in delivery of the plans for the sake of accuracy. Check my latest posts in this topic to regularly see update pictures of how the work is progressing.


 When I finish the exterior 3d NURBS model of Aventador, it will be available for purchase at two prices depending of the geometry type. Both ways, this will include my Aventador body plug plans for free, saved in a separate AutoCAD files that will allow to import them individually over the car's 3d model.

a) 400 USD / 300 EUR (or 200 USD / 150 EUR for loyal customers): STL / 3DS / OBJ / MAX file, 3d Mesh model extracted from the NURBS model. In short, it will have the same high-quality shape and proportions as the NURBS model, but will be made out of high-density polygonal mesh consisting triangles and rectangles. It could be used for: extraction of spline cross sections based on thousands of straight segments (imagine and arc made of lots of straight segments); or CNC-milling. Not suitable for easy editing of the geometry since it's not NURBS.

b) 1000 USD / 750 EUR (or 600 USD / 450 EUR for loyal customers): 3DM / IGES / STEP file, 3d NURBS model made out of clean surfaces with optimised topology and minimum control points, allowing for: easy editing or adding extra NURBS geometry; extraction of perfectly smooth NURBS cross sections; or CNC-milling. In addition to this, when viewed in a 3d program, the NURBS model's geometry could be made totally invisible leaving only the border lines visible, for easier navigation in case of editing or working with other 3d models in the scene, such like chassis or interior.
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: SchulzeA on March 17, 2013, 07:33:36 AM
Nice work!
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: rotarycraig on March 17, 2013, 12:08:32 PM
Will these plans include door jams and tubs or is this just shell of the car?
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: plans4sale on March 19, 2013, 03:02:55 AM
 Thank you for the input. To answer your question - yes, the body plug will include additionally drawn profiles to shape the jambs around both doors, engine cover, boot, windows. The plans are designed to build a compound plug (not single-piece plug for body shell only) where both doors, engine cover and boot are separate mini-plugs that can be mounted on /or dismounted from/ the main body plug. There are separate plugs for the glasses as well. This is made to avoid the usual scenario where the plug is destroyed around the body openings (as happens with single-piece plugs) in order to be able to add the missing details behind these panels. My plans will NOT include cross-sections for building inner door panels and inner panels of engine cover and boot.
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: plans4sale on April 06, 2013, 11:20:48 AM
 Just a little update. The improved Aventador body plug plans will be ready next week and will sell for 200 USD or 150 EUR. Until then they are still available for pre-order at 50% discount - 100 USD or 75 EUR. :)
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: plans4sale on April 19, 2013, 01:51:45 PM
 Hello everyone,

 Last week a short circuit happened and my working desktop PC stopped working. Both of my OS, Windows XP and Windows 7, have been seriously damaged and since then I still don't have any access to the data inside my hard drive. Luckily, I have an older version of my Aventador chassis 3d model plus some of the early chassis plans on my laptop, so there will be some small delay in delivering the latter. From this project I lost only the final 3d chassis model (it had few adjustments around the engine bay that I remember and will apply to my backup model) and 16 plans that I can redo in the following days. However, I don't have any backup of my Aventador body plug plans and 3d body model (and everything I did since 2004), so I will have to redo the work from scratch. This means about two weeks of delay will follow for the body plug plans. My hard drive was sent to a PC service and after a week I will know if there are chances for my data to be extracted from there or not.

 I would like to apologize to all of my customers for the inconvenience with that delay and to reassure you that this is NOT scam, and I will deliver 100% what I promised. Thank you for your understanding and keep reading this topic for more updates.

 I also uploaded couple of videos and some photos to show you the issues with my PC. Hopefully this will be resolved. Until then I will be working on my laptop.

 Kind regards,

 Bobi


(videos)
Windows 7 not loading on my damaged primary hard drive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24mRsP3SEeA#ws)
Windows XP not loading on my damaged secondary hard drive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pa7ujBZtFM#ws)

(photos)
http://imageshack.us/a/img96/3128/img1244cn.jpg (http://imageshack.us/a/img96/3128/img1244cn.jpg)
http://imageshack.us/a/img407/2671/img1245fx.jpg (http://imageshack.us/a/img407/2671/img1245fx.jpg)
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http://imageshack.us/a/img18/1768/img1258cm.jpg (http://imageshack.us/a/img18/1768/img1258cm.jpg)
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http://imageshack.us/a/img842/4774/img1263sm.jpg (http://imageshack.us/a/img842/4774/img1263sm.jpg)
http://imageshack.us/a/img17/8540/img1264yo.jpg (http://imageshack.us/a/img17/8540/img1264yo.jpg)
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: plans4sale on April 28, 2013, 10:31:52 PM
Some good news, folks. The last night I was able to recover the information from one of my hard drive partitions and transfer the data to my new hard drive. Now I have all of my data prior early 2011 recovered. Unfortunatelly, everything I did from 2011 so far is still not recovered and I don't know if it will be ever possible to extract my works from there. Looking for news from the PC service where I leaved my hard drive. On the positive side, on my laptop I found copy of the Aventador 3d game model which I improved the last year, so now I'm ready to make the body plug sections again. In one day I will finish with the changes on the chassis (to make it same like the version I lost after the failure of my hard drive) and continue to supply my customers with chassis plans. Thank you again for your understanding and patience.
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: killerwollf on May 01, 2013, 01:28:35 PM
Why has ikr in photo oq he has with this?
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: italianknightrider on May 01, 2013, 01:59:44 PM
Hello killerwollf ,because its mine ,very old pic. , i see you new here and i see you also just posted on the ***Russian/Ukraine*** website too. SuperBass kit QUOTE = Perfect  :)
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: Jets303 on May 01, 2013, 02:14:53 PM
IKR did you get my PM?
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: italianknightrider on May 01, 2013, 02:42:28 PM
yes here,s the body kit 

http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=93.90 (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=93.90)
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: killerwollf on May 01, 2013, 04:30:37 PM
Hello killerwollf ,because its mine ,very old pic. , i see you new here and i see you also just posted on the ***Russian/Ukraine*** website too. SuperBass kit QUOTE = Perfect  :)


yes superbass kit is your project?  I am trying to build my kit but it's hard to get good plans, these plans are your doing? :)
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: italianknightrider on May 01, 2013, 04:54:15 PM
no i do not make plans ,i get them from different sources ,but use only the best plans ...my friend had great plans so the parts / pieces turned out great
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: killerwollf on May 01, 2013, 05:01:33 PM
no i do not make plans ,i get them from different sources ,but use only the best plans ...my friend had great plans so the parts / pieces turned out great
 

these plans are plug good? have you ever seen it?
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: italianknightrider on May 01, 2013, 05:04:58 PM
have we seen what
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: killerwollf on May 01, 2013, 05:12:52 PM
have we seen what

plug plans are your projects?
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: plans4sale on May 01, 2013, 06:02:37 PM
 To make it clear, IKR already have the plug built from a contractor using plans he bought from a CAD guy. IKR can sell you Aventador body kit when ready. Here at this topic I'm selling my own version of Aventador body plug plans (NOT same plans like those used by IKR's plug builder) to those who want to build the plug by themselves. :) I don't sell fiberglass body kit.
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: killerwollf on May 01, 2013, 06:30:54 PM
ok send more photos when you have  ::thumbup
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: No Bull on May 01, 2013, 06:37:54 PM
I'll try to clarify.

IKR is working on a version of the Aventador and is trying to produce a body package.  Carlos has also produced an Aventador body and is in the process of selling bodies now.

Bobi (aka plans4sale) is a very talented designer that has been working on plans for anyone who might want to attempt to build a buck themselves and are in need of detailed drawings.  He is only selling the plans and isn't offering a body or parts.  I will personally recommend Bobi (see his seller feedback) based on some design work he did for me about a month ago.  He's very detailed oriented, honest, provides frequent updates and most importantly... he delivers.   ::thumbup

I hope this clears everything up and if anyone is wanting to take on a Aventador buck project, Bobi is the guy to talk too.

Chris
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: plans4sale on May 02, 2013, 04:33:29 AM
 Thank you for making it clear about the plans and kits, and for the kind words, Chris. :) I'm glad that you liked my work and I too can tell very nice words about you. ::beers
 With regarts to my Aventador body plug plans, as you know 3 weeks ago I experienced both, mechanical and software failure of my hard drive which lead to loss of all my data from 2011 to date, so I had to start from scratch with the plans and it will take me about two weeks to redo the work. I was more lucky with my chassis plans as I had a back-up copy of my earlier 3d chassi model from January and therefore I only lost the plans I created in the last 3 months. But the good news is that I already have sent 1/3 of the plans to my customers who pre-ordered my package, so one of them resent them to me and that made the hit on my job a bit less painful. :)

 Cheers,

 Bobi
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: killerwollf on May 05, 2013, 03:36:12 PM
Hello as will the work managed to recover the hd? Hug  ::thumbup
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: Tusabes on May 05, 2013, 03:57:52 PM
My designer is finishing my aventador plans this week.  I will have them in hand and ready to deliver at $40 usd

 if we can get a group buy of at least 10 people, $30 usd each person . This will help defray my designers costs
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: plans4sale on May 05, 2013, 09:45:38 PM
Hello as will the work managed to recover the hd? Hug  ::thumbup
Hello, no luck with recovering my data from the damaged hard drive. I'm redoing the work on the plans now. About 10 days until they are ready.
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: killerwollf on May 11, 2013, 05:01:11 PM
hi update?  :)
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: plans4sale on May 11, 2013, 07:49:49 PM
 Sure, tomorrow will post some samples  ::thumbup
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: killerwollf on May 12, 2013, 05:58:32 PM
In twisted  ::salute
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: plans4sale on May 14, 2013, 01:33:44 PM
 Hi, will upload samples tomorrow. I had too much work in recent days doing an alternative European version of my Aventador chassis. ::thumbup
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: killerwollf on May 16, 2013, 06:23:14 PM
update?  ;)
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: plans4sale on May 22, 2013, 08:57:37 AM
 Hi, yes, I'm finishing the plans today and then will post a few free examples here so that you can judge about the quality and amount of detail. ::beers
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: killerwollf on May 26, 2013, 09:27:56 AM
Updates?
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: plans4sale on May 28, 2013, 02:26:23 PM
 Sorry guys, couple of days ago I had strong headache and had to recover my health with some rest around the nature. I'm back to home, in good condition and going to finish this project till tomorrow. Then I wll post pictures of the whole plug and show how it works.

 Cheers ::beers
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: killerwollf on May 31, 2013, 04:32:04 PM
hi updates?
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: killerwollf on June 10, 2013, 04:45:29 PM
no mor updates?
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: plans4sale on June 12, 2013, 05:36:02 AM
 Hi all,

 Recently I have experienced serious medical issues due to my cinusitis and took care of myself at another city in the last days. I'm relatively fine now and when go back to home I will reply to all of you individually (I see I got over 40 e-mails). As I received some disturbing messages from some of you, I will have to make things clear - the time I was not online in recent days and no new updates is NOT scam, I have been ill and not at home. Look forward for my updates to each of you who ordered plans. ::beers Nothing to worry about.

 Thanks to all of you!

 Bobi
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: Tusabes on June 12, 2013, 06:31:40 AM
My designer is finishing my aventador plans this week.  I will have them in hand and ready to deliver at $40 usd

 if we can get a group buy of at least 10 people, $30 usd each person . This will help defray my designers costs

My. Designer says the aventador plans are finished , ready for immediate delivery and no excuses about health problems or internet and computer issues
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: killerwollf on June 18, 2013, 06:51:35 PM
updates?
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: plans4sale on June 24, 2013, 07:04:48 PM
updates?

 Updates very soon. I'm nearly completion of the edits on the 3d game model which I make recently. I downloaded lots of hi-res photos of the genuine car from specific angles, and after careful observations and comparisons I figured out that the 3d model was wrong in so many areas that my version is basically 90% new. Especially wrong is the bonnet whose middle area is at least one inch / 25 mm more bulging than on the genuine car. Everyone who is using that 3d model from the game "Forza motorsport 4" (the least inaccurate game model of the car so far) is going to have problems with odd looking side air intakes, roof and front end. So, I rebuilt these and just need to fix few more things before make new cross sections for the plug. :)

 Just to give you an idea of how wrong the bonnet is. Tomorrow I will show you my improved, more accurate version:
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: plans4sale on July 04, 2013, 07:07:40 PM
 The last week was very busy. Initially, I wanted to make just some quick improvements on the 3d game model here and there for a few hours, but I end up with completelly reworked model with much, much better accuracy. As I mentioned above, there were so many wrong details to fix around the entire body that my version is basically 90% new. Tomorrow I will create perfectly smooth 3d NURBS glasses and use it as a reference to adjust the 3d game model there, in order to ensure that the glass area of the plug/kit will have even curvature. This is the final 3d model from which I will extract the cross sections data. While there is no way to make it 100% accurate compared to the OEM CAD file, this is probably the best possible 3d Aventador made without laser scanner.

 New model:
http://imageshack.us/a/img40/1318/511k.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img40/1318/511k.png)
http://imageshack.us/a/img163/8266/os1g.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img163/8266/os1g.png)

 Original game model:
http://imageshack.us/a/img706/1663/2edx.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img706/1663/2edx.png)
http://imageshack.us/a/img842/4446/kdn.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img842/4446/kdn.png)
http://imageshack.us/a/img194/622/xtus.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img194/622/xtus.png)
http://imageshack.us/a/img90/2156/wcb.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img90/2156/wcb.png)
http://imageshack.us/a/img43/802/uudr.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img43/802/uudr.png)
http://imageshack.us/a/img580/9647/wno.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img580/9647/wno.png)
http://imageshack.us/a/img545/1034/ci.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img545/1034/ci.png)

(central cross-section of the bonnet and front windshield)
http://imageshack.us/a/img845/7531/kaf.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img845/7531/kaf.png)
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Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: plans4sale on August 01, 2013, 07:02:49 AM
 I created 3d NURBS glasses with even curvature, in order to validate the bending radius and to ensure that the power window will not collide with the door skin when moved down. I figured out that the A-pillar of the 3d model from the video game "Forza motorsport 4" is too off of the proper shape, so there will be some new improvements in my 3d model to follow the proper shape of side glasses, and this will also force me to do changes in the roll-cage of my chassis design. I will update you soon with the final version of the roll-cage. Below is a quick video showing the problem area. Builders, beware when using 3d models made of other people to create plugs. Always check for possible errors around the glass and door area.

Aventador custom glasses (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5JPxPNaT1Y#ws)
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: killerwollf on August 17, 2013, 05:35:31 PM
hi updates?
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: plans4sale on August 17, 2013, 07:28:51 PM
 Working on now and will post update soon with the (3d) wooden cage assembled when I finish all drawings. By the way, below is a video I uploaded couple of days ago showing the improved 3d exterior model. The roof, roof pillars, doors and A-pillar tube now follow the proper arc shape of the side glasses. I already posted the video at my Aventador chassis plans topic.

Aventador roof pillar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNN4YThsm-o#ws)
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: SchulzeA on August 25, 2013, 11:13:53 PM
Would it be possible to draw plans for a Murcielago monocoque to fit a G28 body? If so, what would the cost be? It would need to be sectioned so i could build a plug...  ::sun

Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: satinta on August 26, 2013, 01:14:58 AM
Holy off topic Batman!!

Would it be possible to draw plans for a Murcielago monocoque to fit a G28 body? If so, what would the cost be? It would need to be sectioned so i could build a plug...  ::sun


Not really. The point of the G24 and G28 was to have a Murci looking body that fit on to the Fiero chassis. What your asking is the opposite. You might as well just get an original Murci chassis and body panels to build the real car.
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: SchulzeA on August 26, 2013, 02:05:46 AM
LOL
Of course it's possible. I'm asking if it's possible for Bobi to draw them for me. So you can't use a chassis works frame because the body was designed for a fiero?
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: satinta on August 26, 2013, 02:37:25 PM
Maybe I didn't express that right.

Why would you want to?
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: plans4sale on August 26, 2013, 04:12:03 PM
Would it be possible to draw plans for a Murcielago monocoque to fit a G28 body? If so, what would the cost be? It would need to be sectioned so i could build a plug...  ::sun
Sure, I can do that project after I finish my both Aventador projects for the body plug and chassis plans in the following weeks. I suppose that you are asking about an aluminum or steel monocoque made out of sheets plus few tubes in front and rear? Or something else? Depending on what you need I can give you a proper price quote. But keep in mind that doing this 3d monocoque chassis design won't be as cheap as my Aventador chassis plans as the latter is a project whose development cost is shared between several people.
 About what satinta mentioned, of course there is no problem to fit a custom chassis inside any body kit as long as the dimensions of both are taken into consideration during the design process. :)
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: SchulzeA on August 26, 2013, 04:42:20 PM
I need as much space as I can get in the transmission tunnel. It would be constructed of carbon fiber and core.   Maybe just building a new floor structure that works with the steel chassis will be a better route.
Sorry to post in the middle of the Aventador thread. Figured I'd give it a little bump  ::tongue
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: plans4sale on August 26, 2013, 05:04:57 PM
 If I remember correcty, the central tunnel of Fiero was something like 200 mm wide. On my Aventador chassis I leaved about 160 mm wide free room inside the 200 mm central tunnel, with 19.05 mm or 3/4" (US spec), or 20 mm (EU spec) wide tubes as reinforcement at both sides.
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: plans4sale on September 12, 2013, 03:05:48 PM
 Important update for all of my customers who pre-ordered the cross-section plans.  :) As the creation of the plans require wast amount of additional manual editing of the extracted cross-ections to be recreated from straight lines to smooth curves through interpolation, I decided to not use the 3d Mesh model of the game for this purpose. Instead, I will create a high quality 3d NURBS model of Aventador and directly extract perfectly smooth cross-sections from it. The bad news - there will be about 10 days of delay in the delivery of my plans; The good news - the drawings will be of higher quality and more precise as the NURBS model will guarantee smooth surfaces of the body anywhere. 3d Mesh models are pretty weak at this department. I already started with the creation of NURBS model and it takes slightly more time than working with the cross-sections of existing Mesh model. In a few days the cross-sections for the front end will be available for my customers, and I will send next sets of plans every few days. :) The NURBS model will also allow me to make you HD videos with close-ups of the important details that will help you to better understand the proper shape of the design during the building of the body plug.

 Difference between 3d Mesh and NURBS model are shown below:

 On the first 3 images, blue&white test stripes are applied to the NURBS model at the right side, and to the Mesh model at the left side. The smooth stipes clearly show the advantage of the NURBS model.
http://imageshack.us/a/img841/3879/z9y.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img841/3879/z9y.png)
http://imageshack.us/a/img855/7148/7h4x.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img855/7148/7h4x.png)
http://imageshack.us/a/img716/5179/3w7h.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img716/5179/3w7h.png)

 Here, the NURBS model is coloured in white, while the Mesh model is red.
http://imageshack.us/a/img824/2917/84zn.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img824/2917/84zn.png)

 On the next images I applied black&white test stripes to the whole Mesh model to show how it looks now, after the many improvements I made over the original game model. After a week or so I will post similar pictures of the NURBS model from similar angles, to show the differences.
http://imageshack.us/a/img13/6340/r3dc.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img13/6340/r3dc.png)
http://imageshack.us/a/img837/9125/zm18.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img837/9125/zm18.png)

 And here is almost ready NURBS model of the hood.
http://imageshack.us/a/img20/5549/pl33.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img20/5549/pl33.png)
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: plans4sale on September 16, 2013, 02:15:29 PM
UPDATE
 
  Current pre-order price for the Aventador body plug plans is 150 USD / 110 EUR. From 22 September they will cost 200 USD / 150 EUR.
  People who already purchased or pre-order my Aventador chassis plans before 22 September will receive the body plug plans for free.
 
  The 3d Mesh game model from "Forza motorsport 4" which I heavily modified in the recent months is no longer used for extracting the cross-sections. It was too much pain to work with it to make it accurate. Instead, I'm designing a completelly new 3d model using NURBS, in order to achieve best possible accuracy/surface quality of the body and cross-section drawings for building the plug. This lead to about two-week delay in delivery of the plans for the sake of accuracy.
 
 (WIP. Front end and doors to be ready in a few days)
http://imageshack.us/a/img163/6682/omsd.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img163/6682/omsd.png)
http://imageshack.us/a/img812/7403/g86j.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img812/7403/g86j.png)

 (Zebra analisys of the body shape reflections)
http://imageshack.us/a/img22/2500/1s7d.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img22/2500/1s7d.png)
http://imageshack.us/a/img51/6816/rycj.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img51/6816/rycj.png)
http://imageshack.us/a/img443/356/gzdr.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img443/356/gzdr.png)
http://imageshack.us/a/img196/7589/2m1a.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img196/7589/2m1a.png)

 (Zebra analysis comparison of the game 3d Mesh model, the NURBS model, and the Mesh model extracted from the NURBS one. Even after lots of improvements, the game model is still far from perfect. On the other hand, my Mesh model extracted from the NURBS model has the same accurate reflections and surface evenness like the latter)
http://imageshack.us/a/img692/7136/i0jd.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img692/7136/i0jd.png) (game Mesh model)
http://imageshack.us/a/img713/1702/i6aa.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img713/1702/i6aa.png) (NURBS model)
http://imageshack.us/a/img842/4222/63xn.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img842/4222/63xn.png) (Mesh model extracted from the NURBS model)

 (Wireframe comparison between the NURBS model and the Mesh model extracted from the former. Note the clean border lines of the NURBS model that make it very easy to see through the geometry)
http://imageshack.us/a/img32/7311/7jke.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img32/7311/7jke.png) (NURBS)
http://imageshack.us/a/img7/8384/uw6d.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img7/8384/uw6d.png) (Mesh)

 (Batman)
http://imageshack.us/a/img191/6736/p008.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img191/6736/p008.png)
http://imageshack.us/a/img202/1392/sv1x.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img202/1392/sv1x.png)



 
  When I finish the exterior 3d NURBS model of Aventador, it will be available for purchase at two prices depending of the geometry type. Both ways, this will include my Aventador body plug plans for free, saved in a separate AutoCAD files that will allow to import them individually over the car's 3d model.
 
 a) 400 USD / 300 EUR (or 200 USD / 150 EUR for loyal customers): STL / 3DS / OBJ / MAX file, 3d Mesh model extracted from the NURBS model. In short, it will have the same high-quality shape and proportions as the NURBS model, but will be made out of high-density polygonal mesh consisting triangles and rectangles. It could be used for: extraction of spline cross sections based on thousands of straight segments (imagine and arc made of lots of straight segments); or CNC-milling. Not suitable for easy editing of the geometry since it's not NURBS.
 
 b) 1000 USD / 750 EUR (or 600 USD / 450 EUR for loyal customers): 3DM / IGES / STEP file, 3d NURBS model made out of clean surfaces with optimised topology and minimum control points, allowing for: easy editing or adding extra NURBS geometry; extraction of perfectly smooth NURBS cross sections; or CNC-milling. In addition to this, when viewed in a 3d program, the NURBS model's geometry could be made totally invisible leaving only the border lines visible, for easier navigation in case of editing or working with other 3d models in the scene, such like chassis or interior.
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: plans4sale on December 16, 2013, 05:21:59 AM
 Hi all, a major update is coming after several days! ::thumbup I'm back to work.
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: SchulzeA on December 16, 2013, 01:04:15 PM
I wondered what happened to you. Glad to see your still in the game!  ::LAMBO
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: killerwollf on January 19, 2014, 12:23:57 PM
Updates?
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: plans4sale on January 19, 2014, 03:27:15 PM
 Yes, tomorrow. ::LAMBO
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: killerwollf on January 23, 2014, 01:52:19 PM
up up up  ::bounce
Title: Re: Aventador body plug plans
Post by: plans4sale on February 08, 2014, 02:30:59 PM
 Everybody who pre-ordered Aventador body plug plans from me, please, write me a PM or e-mail (listed at the original post), and include the amount you sent to me plus the fee it cost you for the bank transaction. In a few days I will consider whether I will send full refund to all or I will continue my work on the project.

 Two customers already asked for a full refund as they are not satisfied with the too long period it takes me to complete the 3d NURBS model for the Aventador before I'm able to create cross-section drawings from it. There is no demand in the body plug plans because few people already offer good fibreglass kits on the market. Just one customer left who fully ordered my plans, and few others with partially paid small sum, so there are chances that I may consider cancelling the project, refund the money and focus entirelly on finishing the chassis drawings that I have almost ready. The amount of work I do on this project and time spent on it is not worth the small income I received thus far. There was huge interest initially when I started, but few real customers. I will post an update soon when I do my final decision.
 
 Instead of Aventador, I may be offering my own custom design in the form of complete body kit whose styling can be still recognized as a Lamborghini, but will not be an exact replica. If I ever do this kit, for sure it will fit my Aventador chassis with ease. But this is yet to be decided in next days.

 Thanks