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Title: Latch Options
Post by: No Bull on April 02, 2013, 09:11:49 PM
What is everyone using for hood, engine cover and gas cap cover latches / releases?

Donor information and pictures requested please.

Chris
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: jdinner on April 03, 2013, 05:11:09 AM
Here is what Lamborghini uses for some of their latches;
http://www.primaindustries.it/en/products/locking-devices-components (http://www.primaindustries.it/en/products/locking-devices-components)
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: Tallon on April 03, 2013, 11:38:33 AM
unfortunately they don't sell to you if you're in the us, you have to find one of their resellers and they don't carry all the same parts and they absolutely will not get them from prima if there's no high demand unless you buy 50ea.
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: jdinner on April 04, 2013, 05:29:24 AM
This is where I bought mine.
http://www.faucher.ca/1410_Rotary_Latches.html (http://www.faucher.ca/1410_Rotary_Latches.html)
They are only a few minutes from my house.
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: Tallon on April 08, 2013, 08:45:53 AM
Thanks never heard that one
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: String on April 10, 2013, 10:47:47 AM
Hi,
Finally got round to taking a picture of my catch , this is if you want a replica item, the boot&bonnet are alfa romeo gtv boot catch , and the fuel flap lock i am using is VW polo.
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: Tallon on April 10, 2013, 11:00:19 AM
trying to figure out what parts will fit the oem front trunk inner-hood, it's two different latches?
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: String on April 10, 2013, 12:53:35 PM
Ah , for the strikers - they are vehicle specific so modifying the striker ( 5) to make the front and rear strikers.
For the front bonnet safety catch - looks like it may have been Alfa 155 - but now discontinued, so bought this , Citroen saxo - need to make the outer frame for it , but only about £12 new for the parts. :)
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: String on April 10, 2013, 12:57:53 PM
If you can find used ones ( discontinued) , Alfa 164 boot catch and striker good for the engine hood , as the striker plate is on a flat plane to the striker.
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: String on April 10, 2013, 12:59:23 PM
Oh , forgot - picture of genuine bonnet catch.
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: Tallon on April 10, 2013, 01:16:42 PM
have any pics of under the hoods?
how would you mount the Citroen catch?
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: jamack on April 10, 2013, 08:46:49 PM
you can get the OEM parts brand new for about 1,000.00, I could list all the part numbers they were 15 parts total Wwith latches and Lambo charged 1,054.00, I was able to buy from salvage lambo guy for 500.00, the parts included all the cables and small switches.
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: String on April 11, 2013, 05:41:06 AM
OF COURSE ! , what was I thinking - here I am arsing about - when all you need is a dealer and a grand . ::scratch
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: String on April 11, 2013, 05:47:43 AM
Pics of the underside of the front and rear bonnets.
 To mount the citroen catch I will have to make the outer frame - similar shape to the original , a section of 'U' channel would suffice with the sides profiled, and then when the holes are drilled through it - the spring automatically tensions the lever and locks the pivot pin in one action as the pin is inserted.
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: Tallon on April 11, 2013, 06:48:00 AM
Could buy every little oem part on the car but then it would make sense to just buy the car :\
could always disassemble and re-assemble it for the build experience
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: Tallon on April 11, 2013, 06:52:21 AM
Oh I see now, the citroen pic just doesn't show the mount. could just fab one
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: jamack on April 11, 2013, 07:22:51 AM
Ya your right, it just makes way better sence to take the time to figure out what type of bracket,what type of latch and then take the time to fab pieces, I can assure you that buying the stuff that is meant to work if you can for the  right prices, saves money and time, I thought the purpose of building a car was to have one to drive rather than set in a shop,  allot of guys want to sane money and time so the post was just some fyi not to debate OEM parts or not,
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: Tallon on April 11, 2013, 09:58:18 AM
A lot of stuff is already known though, doesn't hurt to ask some times before spending a ton of money
These parts add up, that's why you have so much money in to yours as you have said yourself.

it doesn't take hours to fab a piece like that, look at all the brackets that were needed fabbing on the tube chassis

No offense to you... if I had the money I'd buy them, I just wouldn't use that as a solution for everything on the car
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: jamack on April 11, 2013, 10:24:53 AM
Tallon I didn't take it as anything, This car makes like 25 different ones I have had built over the years, your right latches shouldn't cost that much, when I say it was 1,000.00 it included a bunch of small pieces including the latches, if you are paying a very good fabricator then you will will spend what I did getting this stuff done, I paid 500.00 for everything it cut fab time from a week to one day that's all I was saying. My car goes to paint April 26th, two months later then I expected but, it will be in paint by mid May and then interior. Honestly if you have the latches and the skills to do the installation, then by all means tackle the job, if I had the time and was set up to do it that is what we would have done, by the way Tallon we are opening a shop here in East TN that will have one of the best metal fab guys, painters, fiber glass and mech around the area, I have wanted a shop for years and its just time to put together a operation that can build cars, boats, motor cycles, or anything that the mind can dream up.
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: Tallon on April 11, 2013, 10:32:10 AM
I just meant fab the mount that the citroen catch swings on :\ but I guess that catch doesn't look that much like oem, what I think about is oem stuff that I want more like the seat belt set :)

I've never had a metal shop to go to either so never had the privilege of having anything done or to know what it would cost. I do get some metal where I work though so I'm not too S.O.L.
Would be nice to live closer to where you are though, I'm about 5.5 hrs away
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: usmc_butler on April 11, 2013, 10:42:24 AM
My car goes to paint April 26th, two months later then I expected but, it will be in paint by mid May and then interior. Honestly if you have the latches and the skills to do the installation, then by all means tackle the job, if I had the time and was set up to do it that is what we would have done, by the way Tallon we are opening a shop here in East TN that will have one of the best metal fab guys, painters, fiber glass and mech around the area, I have wanted a shop for years and its just time to put together a operation that can build cars, boats, motor cycles, or anything that the mind can dream up.


 AWSOME EVERYTHING YOU SAID::rocker ::headbang ::bounce ::beers
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: jamack on April 11, 2013, 11:06:27 AM
carless what the latches look like for me its about function and also a BIG BIG issue is time as well, everyone on here as different ways of fabing,doing and finishing their cars, some guys want it perfect, some want it done quickly and  others just want something to do no matter how long it takes because it is a way to get away from the wife,lol, regardless of the reasons I think there is allot of talented guys on this site that can build and fab things and yes Tallon my car as gotten out of hand but when I go to sell it hopefully it will pay off. This build will have a complete build diary that I will be more then happy to share, I have a guy in the office doing research on equvilant parts to the OEM ones I have purchased so they can be offered in a complete kit setup so guys don't have to look for parts that will work and then spend the time trying to find them. I can say this from experince that the kit car industry has not had the best reputation over the years and hopefully once we get everything done we can share the info so builders can find and buy parts that will work and get their cars built quicker. Please don't think I take offense to anything that is said because each guy here as their own reason to do it their way.
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: String on April 11, 2013, 01:31:44 PM
Ya your right, it just makes way better sence to take the time to figure out what type of bracket,what type of latch and then take the time to fab pieces, I can assure you that buying the stuff that is meant to work if you can for the  right prices, saves money and time, I thought the purpose of building a car was to have one to drive rather than set in a shop,  allot of guys want to sane money and time so the post was just some fyi not to debate OEM parts or not,
That's cool , my only intention is to answer the query that was raised - my trouble is that in messages I come across a bit harsh because I am being factual with the information I have.
My reasons for finding replica parts is because of the genuine parts I have bought , such as the boot carpet and front trim which the catches pass through. That is why I couldn't agree more about buying the 'right parts' to save time / money.
A modest amount of research for example came up with me buying the Diablo 6.0 seatbelt set new , a huge saving over the murcie set and the only discernable difference is the warning light switch on the passenger buckle.
Front boot,regards, :)
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: Tallon on April 11, 2013, 01:38:44 PM
The front trim's I wouldn't mind buying, those details I can't resist. I'd like to do the front trunk like oem.
I tend to wait until someone makes a copy of it but doesn't always happen in decent time frame if ever

I only have the little height adjusters so far lol
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: autopro on April 29, 2013, 10:31:46 PM
If you can find used ones ( discontinued) , Alfa 164 boot catch and striker good for the engine hood , as the striker plate is on a flat plane to the striker.

Thanks for all the info you provided.  I was abe to find this catch and striker here is a picture.

Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: jdinner on April 30, 2013, 05:01:16 AM
Just another option that works really well, is compact and cheap. I have a latch, striker, cable and lever from a VW Rabbit. It has the spring and safety catch built in.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7179/6984468127_1716f56e97_b.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7063/6853445616_08454bc242_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: BigPines on May 28, 2013, 04:27:37 PM
I got an Alfa Romeo 164 catch and striker too but it looks like the striker has been rigged to work properly with a zip tie. I am wondering if it is a big deal to fix or I should send it back for a refund?

Title: Re: Latch Options
Post by: autopro on May 28, 2013, 05:02:16 PM
Don't see why that zip tie is there.  Is the guide cracked?  Try removing the zip tie to see if there is anything wrong with the striker.