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Re: Chassis works chassis build. Freaking finally!
« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2014, 11:17:08 AM »
I found a good suspension calculator!
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Re: Chassis works chassis build. Freaking finally!
« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2014, 12:28:34 AM »
Adrian, I made a scale model using wood, I found some dimensions that keep the hub close vertical through the entire travel. I believe this would give me the most stability during jounce and rebound. What do you think?

Without seeing the model/ numbers it is hard to tell but some camber gain isnt bad, just a few degrees is all that you need
I am heading out to the garage to take some additional measurements. Thank you!
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Re: Chassis works chassis build. Freaking finally!
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2014, 01:56:19 PM »
When I was first building my frame I tack welded (4), 4" wheels to the bottom of the chassis at the corners of the tub area,  this allowed me to move it about when needed and not pop a disc in the process. ::K

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Re: Chassis works chassis build. Freaking finally!
« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2014, 11:50:26 AM »
It says 450lbs for the bare chassis on my plans somewhere. It sure seems heavier when you have to move it without wheels!

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Re: Chassis works chassis build. Freaking finally!
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2014, 10:52:48 AM »
Super looking chassis, Robert.  Is it as heavy as it looks? ::scratch  You are probably going to end up with a 65/35 rear/front weight ratio or close to it.  I really don't think that the 400# springs are going to be too stiff.  Your engine/trans package must weigh in at around 700#.

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Thank you Jim. I think your right with the spring rates.
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Re: Chassis works chassis build. Freaking finally!
« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2014, 09:48:41 AM »
Super looking chassis, Robert.  Is it as heavy as it looks? ::scratch  You are probably going to end up with a 65/35 rear/front weight ratio or close to it.  I really don't think that the 400# springs are going to be too stiff.  Your engine/trans package must weigh in at around 700#.

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Re: Chassis works chassis build. Freaking finally!
« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2014, 08:40:45 AM »
Adrian, I made a scale model using wood, I found some dimensions that keep the hub close vertical through the entire travel. I believe this would give me the most stability during jounce and rebound. What do you think?

Without seeing the model/ numbers it is hard to tell but some camber gain isnt bad, just a few degrees is all that you need

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Re: Chassis works chassis build. Freaking finally!
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2014, 02:49:26 AM »
Adrian, I made a scale model using wood, I found some dimensions that keep the hub close vertical through the entire travel. I believe this would give me the most stability during jounce and rebound. What do you think?
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Re: Chassis works chassis build. Freaking finally!
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2014, 09:57:43 AM »
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did you look at thte camber curve for your shortened arms?  you may have to relocate the upper arm mounts to keep the rear from being to darty

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Re: Chassis works chassis build. Freaking finally!
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2014, 01:51:07 AM »
Well., I finally finished crunching the numbers for my LS4 in a Chassis Works chassis. I am making the bottom subframe/engine cradle 11 inches wider, and the top section of the rear subframe 2 inches wider. This will give me 1 inch of engine clearance for the trans and engine on top. I am modifying the chassis so the lower section/engine cradle and suspension will unbolt, and removed from the bottom, just like a front wheel drive car. Because the lower control arm is 5.5 inches shorter, I think that progressive springs are in order. With the lower control arms shorter, the leverage/lever factor on the coil overs changed. I don't think 400lb springs are needed, the ride would be too hard.  I am using factory rubber drivetrain mounts. I don't want to feel drive train vibrations.What do my lambo brothers think? I will be posting pics soon.
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Re: Chassis works chassis build. Freaking finally!
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2013, 07:51:48 PM »
very nice job , i will be following this frame ,thank you for posting the pic.
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Re: Chassis works chassis build. Freaking finally!
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2013, 03:12:11 PM »
 Those are some decent welds you did! Very clean and uniform. ::thumbup
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Re: Chassis works chassis build. Freaking finally!
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2013, 09:39:37 AM »
Thanks guys, I used a hand brake to bend the parts.
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Re: Chassis works chassis build. Freaking finally!
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2013, 08:15:32 AM »
Fantastic work  ::K

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Re: Chassis works chassis build. Freaking finally!
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2013, 12:52:18 AM »
 ::thumbup looking good! Did you end up forming your brackets by hand? They look nice.