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Re: Aventador custom chassis drawings for 500 USD / 470 EUR
« Reply #110 on: October 08, 2015, 05:20:12 PM »
 Last day for selling my chassis plans with a license to build one chassis at 500 US Dollars or 440 Euros.
 
 However, from Friday, 9th October 2015, the actual built chassis will be available for 7500 US Dollars or 6700 Euros + shipping from Finland by "Finnluxury Oy".
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Re: Aventador custom chassis drawings for 500 USD / 470 EUR
« Reply #109 on: October 03, 2015, 05:43:00 AM »
UPDATE:
 
 My set of chassis plans with a license to build one chassis is up for sale at 500 US Dollars or 440 Euros until Friday, 9th October 2015, then the plans will be discontinued from sale and I will start taking orders only for the built chassis with suspension arms and wheel hubs, covered with temporary protective coat WD40 to preserve the metal while you add some extra tabs to mount your preferred engine, transmission, radiators, fuel tank(s), pedals, seats etc. Price of the built chassis will be 7500 US Dollars or 6700 Euros + shipping from Finland by "Finnluxury Oy". Initial customers will receive continuous support for their chassis builds. For private information, please use personal messages or Skype: Bulgarian.supercars
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Re: Aventador custom chassis drawings for 500 USD / 470 EUR
« Reply #108 on: October 02, 2015, 01:04:50 PM »
 This is how the Govedo chassis looks like when armed with suspension and wheels.  ::beers Some tubes, sheet metal and adjustable mounting points are not yet installed at this moment due to continuing development, but the chassis will be finished soon:
 
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 https://youtu.be/ZKy_EVm2OF0 






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Re: Aventador custom chassis drawings for 500 USD / 470 EUR
« Reply #107 on: September 28, 2015, 08:17:13 AM »
 UPDATE:

- All suspension tube plans (SP) and tube end cutting patterns (xSP) for the A-arms are completed. Every tube end cutting pattern has a tiny dent along the flat side to mark the location of the top side while the tube is laid horizontally on a table, as shown in this instructional video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B3LwXOR5mQ ;

- Recently, I did lots of optimizations on the metal plates used in the A-arms and suspension mounting points. The files for laser cutting of these are already completed and available in both, DWG and DXF file formats. The metal plates for the wheel hubs (uprights) and upper coil-over mounting are still work in progress, and should be ready soon;

- Initial batch for most of the steel machined parts (MP) is fabricated and validated. Weight is approximately 8.8-8.9 kg (19-19.6 lbs). There are about 70 more small inserts that are in the making now. The machined parts usually come as printed plans used by you to fabricate them locally with turner machine and milling machine. However, as I mentioned in my previous update, I can provide these for a good price + international shipping via DHL. Hi-res photos (2592x1944 pixels) here:
http://i.imgur.com/GoHDDBO.jpg (all together)
http://i.imgur.com/LAexEjL.jpg (close-up)
http://i.imgur.com/wF0FfWa.jpg (upper engine cradle mounting points coupled together)
http://i.imgur.com/ky0WvWk.jpg (lower coil over mounting)
http://i.imgur.com/0B7Fay4.jpg (front toe link)
http://i.imgur.com/WddxJ6R.jpg (rear toe link)
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Re: Aventador custom chassis drawings for 500 USD / 470 EUR
« Reply #106 on: September 17, 2015, 11:57:37 AM »
Welcome to "Lamboclone.com".  The place to gather a group of interested gearheads to swap ideas, helpful hints, safety concerns, guidance, tips and encouragement in order that we might be able to construct "a one-off custom recreation of a vehicle that resembles a model built by Lamborghini."  Most of us don't want or even desire to spend $400K USD to build a replica of anything.  Just a simple replica, using our minds, bodies, ingenuity, patience, and God given skills, and a couple thousand parts.  Most of our pockets are not that deep even in this world of happiness that we so love.  Maybe Mad Mechanics would be a better target for your wares.  my $0.02 USD.
Trying to figure out the reason you mention $400K USD for a replica of something in a thread about original custom chassis plans worth $399.5K less.

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Re: Aventador custom chassis drawings for 500 USD / 470 EUR
« Reply #105 on: September 17, 2015, 11:48:39 AM »
Welcome to "Lamboclone.com".  The place to gather a group of interested gearheads to swap ideas, helpful hints, safety concerns, guidance, tips and encouragement in order that we might be able to construct "a one-off custom recreation of a vehicle that resembles a model built by Lamborghini."  Most of us don't want or even desire to spend $400K USD to build a replica of anything.  Just a simple replica, using our minds, bodies, ingenuity, patience, and God given skills, and a couple thousand parts.  Most of our pockets are not that deep even in this world of happiness that we so love.  Maybe Mad Mechanics would be a better target for your wares.  my $0.02 USD.
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Re: Aventador custom chassis drawings for 500 USD / 470 EUR
« Reply #104 on: September 16, 2015, 09:49:48 AM »
 UPDATE:

-  I do two versions of those tube plans that require bending, because different radius for the bend dies is used in different regions. This is why all tube plans for bent tubes will have alternatives with bend radius of 117 mm and 200 mm, respectively. If you use some different radius bend die, certain tubes may require very minor adjustments.

- It is now clear how many machined parts (made with turner machine) will be used in the suspension arms, uprights and engine cradle mountings. They are 78 numbers total. Keep in mind that the newly designed bolt-on removable rear bumper section (described in my previous update above) will require a few more machined parts, so the total number of the latter will be most likely 84 or 86. A complete list with plans will be available soon. For those of you who can't get these machined parts custom made at an affordable price locally, I can offer a competitive price since I have contacts with skilled turner in my area (Bulgaria, EU) who can do this job, then I can send the package over to your location via DHL or other shipping company. The same applies to the custom made metal plates, as well. I recommend to make the machined parts from alloy structural steel grade "40X" (ГОСТ / GOST), also known with its alternative names "41 Cr 4" (DIN) and "5140" (AISI / ASTM / ASME). A comparison table for steel grades could be found here: http://www.b2bmetal.eu/en/pages/index/index/id/134/

- I changed the way I name the cutting patterns. Previously, they were named CP-1, CP-2, CP-3 etc, but I found it more natural if they share the same name as the tube or sheet metal they belong to, but having a "x" marking sitting in front. If there will be two or more cutting patterns used on a single tube or sheet metal, an additional "(a)", "(b)", "(c)" etc words will be placed at the end. For example, the roof tube R-1 requires two cutting patterns on either side, so they will will be named "xR-1(a)" and "xR-1(b)" respectively. This will eliminate the chance for misunderstanding where some tube may have completely different number than its corresponding cutting pattern.

- The roof cage now features an additional X-bracing for increased strength. The chassis was quite strong even without that X-brace for those looking for the larger possible head room, however, there is no such thing as "too strong", so I recommend to sacrifice some head room for the sake of extra protection (unless your name is Arnold Schwarzenegger).
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Re: Aventador custom chassis drawings for 500 USD / 470 EUR
« Reply #103 on: September 05, 2015, 01:51:37 AM »
UPDATE:

 - Some metal plates of the front and rear lower A-arms were redesigned for higher strength and to be able to couple with one of two different lower ball joints depending on the builder's preference and/or region location. If you opt for one of the ball joints type, you can not use the other type, and vice versa. Also, it's now possible to attach mounting points for the sway bars' toe links on either side of the front and rear lower A-arms.

 - As the suspension layout is now completed, I have an exact estimate for the total number of QA1 XMR 10-12 rod ends required. Each wheel will use 7 rod ends, so 28 numbers total. Optionally, two of these rod ends could be replaced with the cheaper alternative QA1 XMR 8-10 and used to connect the toe links of the rack&pinion assembly. However, I recommend to stick with all QA1 XMR 10-12 as they are 34.6% larger/stronger and will keep working flawlessly for longer period of time.

 - Originally, the 4 front upper toe links (replacement of the upper A-arms) required 4 rod ends with left hand threads. The suspension will only use regular right hand thread now. The switch to these was decided in order to eliminate any chance of self-loosening caused by improper tightened rod end nut. The downside is that the initial setting of each toe link's length is now made slower. However, this is most likely only necessary once in the build and requires just a few extra minutes, so it's considered insignificant.

 - There is a little modification in the front section around the middle of the dashboard area. Previously, I used a single tube in the center that is now replaced by two tubes sitting 160 mm apart, in order to increase the strength and to allow easier installation of the two metal sheets underneath. As a side effect, this change also widens the front upper opening through the central tunnel (160 mm wide single opening, instead of the previous two 70 mm wide openings), which could be usable should any electrical board, A/C vent pipes of other components be installed there.

 - The current progress of the EU and both US chassis plans is as follows (this list looks almost as same as the one in my post on 30 May 2015, however, there are plenty of improvements and additions to some of the chassis sections):
A - Floor level [fully completed]
B - Front and rear* bumpers [front fully completed, rear half finished]
C - Engine cradle [fully completed]
D - Door frames and hinges [not yet started, will be my last task]
E - Engine bay [fully completed]
F - Front end [fully completed]
R - Roof roll-cage [redesigned, near finishing]
S - Sides of the cockpit [fully completed]
T - Central Tunnel [fully completed]
W - Firewall [fully completed]
M* - Metal sheets and plates [half completed]
MP - Machined parts [half completed]
SP - Suspension tubes [redesigned, near finishing]

*Originally, my Govedo chassis plans were not meant to include separate rear bumper frame (section B), however, I designed it recently as to make the package more complete and usable for the builders. To distinguish the front and rear bumper tubes in the chassis plans, the front ones are named from B-1 to B-14, and the rear ones are named from B-15 to B-29.

PS: My progress with the chassis plans was slowed down in last weeks due to me working mostly on the suspension design. However, after I'm done with it in the coming days, I will proceed with the remaining chassis plans and send a good amount of them to the respective builders. I thank you for your patience and assure you that I do my best to provide a chassis design that far exceeds my initial intent.
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Re: Aventador custom chassis drawings for 500 USD / 470 EUR
« Reply #102 on: August 26, 2015, 12:17:49 PM »
The mirror said that stiffer springs are not the answer to all suspension solutions and that you were wrong. It said some other things that I will not mention. Now that we have a definitive answer from a source that we both agree on, let us stop this for hopefully another two months.
Your mirror forgot to remind you about you ignoring the fact that I mentioned multiple times that my suspension has different approach with the A-arm geometry, and also the requirement to have very limited spring stroke in the front wheels in order to avoid collision with the A-pillars. It's something common for all exotics with such cab-forward design, especially in the cases with the A-pillars being on top of the front wheels (Diablo, Murcielago and Aventador). Good luck braking hard and high-speed cornering with your recommended soft springs with longer stroke. I will tell you a secret: There is a reason for the faster super cars to not body roll in corners and to not dive like crazy while braking hard.
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Re: Aventador custom chassis drawings for 500 USD / 470 EUR
« Reply #101 on: August 26, 2015, 12:05:38 PM »
The mirror said that stiffer springs are not the answer to all suspension solutions and that you were wrong. It said some other things that I will not mention. Now that we have a definitive answer from a source that we both agree on, let us stop this for hopefully another two months.

Now this is funny!  Thanks for the laugh Charley.
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Re: Aventador custom chassis drawings for 500 USD / 470 EUR
« Reply #100 on: August 26, 2015, 09:03:37 AM »
The mirror said that stiffer springs are not the answer to all suspension solutions and that you were wrong. It said some other things that I will not mention. Now that we have a definitive answer from a source that we both agree on, let us stop this for hopefully another two months.

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Re: Aventador custom chassis drawings for 500 USD / 470 EUR
« Reply #99 on: August 25, 2015, 11:37:09 PM »
It is not a suggestion, it is a question.
It's your question after your suggestion. The answer is awaiting you in your mirror.
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Re: Aventador custom chassis drawings for 500 USD / 470 EUR
« Reply #98 on: August 25, 2015, 11:32:36 PM »
It is not a suggestion, it is a question.

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Re: Aventador custom chassis drawings for 500 USD / 470 EUR
« Reply #97 on: August 25, 2015, 11:01:26 PM »
Let my feeble mind, which is obviously below "Moderate technical understanding", try to comprehend this one last time, the "Positives for having stiffer springs in a suspension with limited stroke". We will totally disregard the swaybar which has nothing to do with squat and dive, only cornering. We will totally disregard anti-squat and anti-dive built into the suspension through the positioning of the inner pivots of the upper a-arm in relation to the ground plane, which has nothing to do with cornering. We will concentrate only on a stiffer spring to do all of this. Why stop at a 500# spring? Wouldn't a 1,000# spring be even better? Even better yet, wouldn't a suspension solidly mounted with no spring travel at all be the ultimate performance package?
This is totally your suggestion. Try it on your car.
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Re: Aventador custom chassis drawings for 500 USD / 470 EUR
« Reply #96 on: August 25, 2015, 10:15:12 PM »
Let my feeble mind, which is obviously below "Moderate technical understanding", try to comprehend this one last time, the "Positives for having stiffer springs in a suspension with limited stroke". We will totally disregard the swaybar which has nothing to do with squat and dive, only cornering. We will totally disregard anti-squat and anti-dive built into the suspension through the positioning of the inner pivots of the upper a-arm in relation to the ground plane, which has nothing to do with cornering. We will concentrate only on a stiffer spring to do all of this. Why stop at a 500# spring? Wouldn't a 1,000# spring be even better? Even better yet, wouldn't a suspension solidly mounted with no spring travel at all be the ultimate performance package?