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For Sale / Wanted => Cars & Projects Wanted => Topic started by: Theoneabove on October 23, 2018, 06:01:09 PM
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So after thinking of doing a Aventador build, some kind people advised me I should possibly try something else. Some mentioned a Vaydor… so does anyone have one they're thinking of letting go of and whats your price. my budget is being able to buy one brand new from the company if I had to. If theres something interesting I may switch it up.
thanks for all your help
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You're just not going to get a fully built car for cheap. Realistically it would cost at least 80k+ to have a custom car built with any quality. If you're not interested in building the car yourself you're better off just buying a car from a well known manufacturer. Just fork up 100k and get a Galardo if you have that kind of money, it will be a much better car. Most of us have over 40k invested in our cars and that's just the cost of parts.
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You're just not going to get a fully built car for cheap. Realistically it would cost at least 80k+ to have a custom car built with any quality. If you're not interested in building the car yourself you're better off just buying a car from a well known manufacturer. Just fork up 100k and get a Galardo if you have that kind of money, it will be a much better car. Most of us have over 40k invested in our cars and that's just the cost of parts.
Not looking for a fully built car. I should have been more specific. Im looking just for the body kit. I was just checking to see if anyone had a Vaydor body kit laying around they wanted to get rid of. I will be doing the build myself.
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Not looking for a fully built car. I should have been more specific. Im looking just for the body kit. I was just checking to see if anyone had a Vaydor body kit laying around they wanted to get rid of. I will be doing the build myself.
I don't know if you'll find anyone here with one, maybe on madmechanics. It looks like you can buy it here though, http://vaydorexotics.com/prices/. (http://vaydorexotics.com/prices/.) I don't know anything about that company, make sure it's legit and not a scam before giving them any money.
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Forgive me for saying so, but I’m a bit confused. You say that your budget is Large enough to warrant purchasing a “brand new” build if you wanted to. Yet instead of reaching out to Matt at Vader kits for a “brand new body” (just body) . You prefer the risk of Possibly getting scammed buying second hand, not to mention you may not receive all parts from said person.
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Looks like your "fate" has a lot of choices. 50% down payment up front to be put on a build list? Body & Interior pieces = $14K. + wheels & tires $5.8K + chassis $15-$20K? + Paint/Body work $4K + Windshield $? + Tail lights $? + Misc. $6K ? Please talk to someone who has built a Vaydor before paying a dime. Have you read the "Lessons learned - Advice to Newbies" on this forum?
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Contact Rodney, He is a member on this forum, He has already build one and can build you one. I can vouch for him
He does an awesome job
CCIE
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Looks like your "fate" has a lot of choices. 50% down payment up front to be put on a build list? Body & Interior pieces = $14K. + wheels & tires $5.8K + chassis $15-$20K? + Paint/Body work $4K + Windshield $? + Tail lights $? + Misc. $6K ? Please talk to someone who has built a Vaydor before paying a dime. Have you read the "Lessons learned - Advice to Newbies" on this forum?
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I’m just looking for the kit only so I can start a build. I can get the donor car for a good deal. I’m not asking for someone to build me a Vaydor for $14k. All I’m asking is if anyone has a kit they purchased that they no longer want to use. I was checking with people here to see if I could put money into their pocket rather than going to the website first although if need be I could purchase one from Matt at Vaydor if one was not available here. That was all I was inquiring about. Once again sorry to confuse you guys.
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I’m just looking for the kit only so I can start a build. I can get the donor car for a good deal. I’m not asking for someone to build me a Vaydor for $14k. All I’m asking is if anyone has a kit they purchased that they no longer want to use. I was checking with people here to see if I could put money into their pocket rather than going to the website first although if need be I could purchase one from Matt at Vaydor if one was not available here. That was all I was inquiring about. Once again sorry to confuse you guys.
We're just looking out for you, we all know too well how expensive this hobby gets. Most people jump into it before knowing all of the facts and never finish their builds because it ends up costing too much or they just don't have the skills. Not to mention that most finished builds don't come close to the quality of the real thing anyway, even with a lot of $$$ invested. kit cars are for the car builder hobbyists, if you don't like building cars then do yourself a favor and don't buy one.
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eh, he wont buy any anyway ,bit of his dream in the head. but as realtor he should pack a few bucks . homes are not that cheap no more specially in big city. even 2% on sale not bad. in my town they drive high end cars but not to fancy,
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eh, he wont buy any anyway ,bit of his dream in the head. but as realtor he should pack a few bucks . homes are not that cheap no more specially in big city. even 2% on sale not bad. in my town they drive high end cars but not to fancy,
would you like to put a wager on me buying something?
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eh, he wont buy any anyway ,bit of his dream in the head. but as realtor he should pack a few bucks . homes are not that cheap no more specially in big city. even 2% on sale not bad. in my town they drive high end cars but not to fancy,
And I’m not a Realtor I’m a Broker. Realtors work for me.
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OK MR, guys like you are coming and going back with broken dreams all years, after waking up to see, that to build a Kit Car ain't that easy , time involve up to 10 years to have good replica , fab skills, mechanical, money and lot of money, space, finding parts , family issues, etc etc,
as a broker unless you have your own biz you'll make a buck , but yeah maybe not that much as not your own.
do remember I'm, not here to tell you what to do,but think and think again. you maybe better off with Vette or GT Mustang and drive tomorrow.
Peace Bro
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OK MR, guys like you are coming and going back with broken dreams all years, after waking up to see, that to build a Kit Car ain't that easy , time involve up to 10 years to have good replica , fab skills, mechanical, money and lot of money, space, finding parts , family issues, etc etc,
as a broker unless you have your own biz you'll make a buck , but yeah maybe not that much as not your own.
do remember I'm, not here to tell you what to do,but think and think again. you maybe better off with Vette or GT Mustang and drive tomorrow.
Peace Bro
I own my real estate office, Broker/Owner Bro. Also I thought this forum was intended to inspire people, but with people like you whom think that they’re own shortcomings would be the same for very one else is ridiculous. Sorry sir but not everyone’s situation is identical to yours and you shouldn’t get your pantries in a bunch because someone may try something that has taken you longer to complete. I’m here for positive inspiration not opinions from negative Nancy’s, who get upset because someone may do something they couldn’t. All you are doing is assuming things, and you know what they say about people who assume things. I think there’s a lot of animosity coming from you for no reason. Your acting like the kid who has the ball and wants to start a game but only ends up playing by himself because he is too scared to let the others play because they may be a just as good as him or possibly better. It’s my money. If I want to waste it in silly string that’s my perogative. So please do us both a favor and stay out of each other’s way on the forum and we should be ok because it’s obvious we already have issues due to your own inadequacy.
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OK MR, guys like you are coming and going back with broken dreams all years, after waking up to see, that to build a Kit Car ain't that easy , time involve up to 10 years to have good replica , fab skills, mechanical, money and lot of money, space, finding parts , family issues, etc etc,
as a broker unless you have your own biz you'll make a buck , but yeah maybe not that much as not your own.
do remember I'm, not here to tell you what to do,but think and think again. you maybe better off with Vette or GT Mustang and drive tomorrow.
Peace Bro
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_kcRS4-4axU
This guy seem to be able to figure it out.
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No harm feeling Mr,I’m not kid ,in my 60s
All I telling i’ve seen lot of wanna be
How ever good luck and keep post how you progress going
We’ll all celebrate your build when is done on the road
::salute
Btw the build 3 lamboc past my 18 years
1countach 1 25th and I’m now 75% done on 99 Roafster
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_kcRS4-4axU
This guy seem to be able to figure it out.
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that is a nice you tube channel!
I had the "build a car Bug" for quite a few years. I just couldn't stop thinking about it. bought parts before I even had a car. Went and looked at quite a few cars in process and completed cars. For me doing my project is a win win. If the completed the car meets my OCD standards I win. If I fail at least it will be out of my system! :LL:
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Theoneabove...the people on this forum really do support each other and definitely help where they can. Eddie's words reflect the issue with tire kickers and dreamers. For every one person serious about building replicas there are a hundred dreamers that can get under peoples skin (I don't mean you specifically...but once you sit on the forum for a while you'll quickly see what he is talking about). I think the main issue is that you've been asking for quotes on all types of cars, but don't seem to have a planned direction. Don't get me wrong...that can be important research and is encouraged. But it can wear thin... And please don't get pulled into a "I make more than you so don't question my commitment" argument. That just builds an unnecessary wall between you and the forum members.
Just remember...if you are going to eventually build a replica, you need to be doing it because you love the art of car fabrication. The end result is a reward, but can't be the focus.
Keep asking the questions. Be honest with yourself. Take things slowly...and build a realistic (and flexible) plan for your project. ::thumbup
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Theoneabove...the people on this forum really do support each other and definitely help where they can. Eddie's words reflect the issue with tire kickers and dreamers. For every one person serious about building replicas there are a hundred dreamers that can get under peoples skin (I don't mean you specifically...but once you sit on the forum for a while you'll quickly see what he is talking about). I think the main issue is that you've been asking for quotes on all types of cars, but don't seem to have a planned direction. Don't get me wrong...that can be important research and is encouraged. But it can wear thin... And please don't get pulled into a "I make more than you so don't question my commitment" argument. That just builds an unnecessary wall between you and the forum members.
Just remember...if you are going to eventually build a replica, you need to be doing it because you love the art of car fabrication. The end result is a reward, but can't be the focus.
Keep asking the questions. Be honest with yourself. Take things slowly...and build a realistic (and flexible) plan for your project. ::thumbup
My direction was to build an aventador replica... after asking if I should try it there were members who said i’d Be in over my head and listed other options. I looked at the other options and for what my skill set is and also the fact that the Vaydor also looks great, is what I decided to go with after some thought.
I’m not trying to say I make a lot of money, but that seems to be everyone’s concern when I inquired about building something, some (even before knowing what I do) would make it seem that they were on a different level, and I was not capable of being on their level by throwing out ridiculous dollar amounts of what their build cost, and how I wouldn’t be able to do this. That is when I said what I do for a living and still had people chiming in with negativity. I’m not here for a pissing contest... I’m here for the knowledge that I can get from people who know more than I do. I don’t remember whose quote this is but it says. “I met a guy we both had a dollar and we exchanged dollars and we both still had a dollar, then I met a guy and we both had an idea we exchanged ideas now I have two” that’s what I’m here for the ideas and knowledge that I can obtain. A skill is worth way more than money. I could lose all of my money tomorrow, but with a skill I can always have a way to make more.
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My direction was to build an aventador replica... after asking if I should try it there were members who said i’d Be in over my head and listed other options. I looked at the other options and for what my skill set is and also the fact that the Vaydor also looks great, is what I decided to go with after some thought.
I’m not trying to say I make a lot of money, but that seems to be everyone’s concern when I inquired about building something, some (even before knowing what I do) would make it seem that they were on a different level, and I was not capable of being on their level by throwing out ridiculous dollar amounts of what their build cost, and how I wouldn’t be able to do this. That is when I said what I do for a living and still had people chiming in with negativity. I’m not here for a pissing contest... I’m here for the knowledge that I can get from people who know more than I do. I don’t remember whose quote this is but it says. “I met a guy we both had a dollar and we exchanged dollars and we both still had a dollar, then I met a guy and we both had an idea we exchanged ideas now I have two” that’s what I’m here for the ideas and knowledge that I can obtain. A skill is worth way more than money. I could lose all of my money tomorrow, but with a skill I can always have a way to make more.
Before eventually committing to an Aventador build, I had researched the Vaydor (and a half dozen other cars). It is certainly an excellent option...especially for those that worry about the stigma of "copying" a supercar. I would disagree that "ridiculous dollar amounts" have been thrown at you. A replica from a legitimate builder will easily cost $100K or more. When you need 3000+ hours to construct something...it's not going to be cheap. Additionally, unless you are a master fabricator, you'll rely on lots of oem parts that just can't be replicated...this all adds up. Whatever build you eventually commit to, guaranteed you'll end up spending $50K+ on parts, tools and supplies. Emphasis on the "+". You don't need to prove you can afford it to anyone...you just need to be honest to yourself on your budget. Certainly expect an initial investment of $10-20K, and then anticipate needing $400-500 per month, every month for years to come. Also remember, whatever your current status is (money, available time, family, health, etc), it's guaranteed to change as your build progresses.
I look forward to seeing what you eventually decide to build. (...and definitely keep a build thread!) :)
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I have been following this thread for quite a while and understand everyone has been trying to be helpful even if it seems "harsh" at times.
Deciding to build your own car involves a lot of emotion, dream, expectation and desire. I've been through it. It is exciting, fun, grueling, exhausting, satisfying and expensive. I expect to keep my build so I'm not concerned about resale value but that is something that should be considered also. A one-off build by an unknown builder using unknown design and with questionable construction will NOT bring in much resale value. BUT, if that builder has something that is a known manufactured product, well constructed and recognized in the marketplace, they stand to get a fair value if they do sell.
So, keeping that in mind, I would suggest (especially for a first time builder) to look to someone like Factory Five. They have KITS. FF can provide everything you need to actually get your build finished and offer support if you need it, directly from the factory. Their product is recognized and of very good quality. So if you DO sell, it would be of value on the market as a known product.
People here know me. I am NOT shilling for FF. I don't get anything for this recommendation. I'm just trying to put some real world sense in the decision process and try to help a new builder see another option.
You could also go with an engine-minus buy of something like a GT40. With that you would still have some work but you would be up and running very quickly.
So those are my "words of wisdom". I know I can't talk you out of your dream build AND I don't want to. Just think about what I said before you make your decision.
Whatever it is, people here will be glad to see and hear about your efforts.
Good luck.
RT
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Theoneabove...the people on this forum really do support each other and definitely help where they can. Eddie's words reflect the issue with tire kickers and dreamers. For every one person serious about building replicas there are a hundred dreamers that can get under peoples skin (I don't mean you specifically...but once you sit on the forum for a while you'll quickly see what he is talking about). I think the main issue is that you've been asking for quotes on all types of cars, but don't seem to have a planned direction. Don't get me wrong...that can be important research and is encouraged. But it can wear thin... And please don't get pulled into a "I make more than you so don't question my commitment" argument. That just builds an unnecessary wall between you and the forum members.
Just remember...if you are going to eventually build a replica, you need to be doing it because you love the art of car fabrication. The end result is a reward, but can't be the focus.
Keep asking the questions. Be honest with yourself. Take things slowly...and build a realistic (and flexible) plan for your project. ::thumbup
My direction was to build an aventador replica... after asking if I should try it there were members who said i’d Be in over my head and listed other options. I looked at the other options and for what my skill set is and also the fact that the Vaydor also looks great, is what I decided to go with after some thought.
I’m not trying to say I make a lot of money, but that seems to be everyone’s concern when I inquired about building something, some (even before knowing what I do) would make it seem that they were on a different level, and I was not capable of being on their level by throwing out ridiculous dollar amounts of what their build cost, and how I wouldn’t be able to do this. That is when I said what I do for a living and still had people chiming in with negativity. I’m not here for a pissing contest... I’m here for the knowledge that I can get from people who know more than I do. I don’t remember whose quote this is but it says. “I met a guy we both had a dollar and we exchanged dollars and we both still had a dollar, then I met a guy and we both had an idea we exchanged ideas now I have two” that’s what I’m here for the ideas and knowledge that I can obtain. A skill is worth way more than money. I could lose all of my money tomorrow, but with a skill I can always have a way to make more.
That's my stolen quote :LL: but seriously the guys are correct taking this on is a marathon, a straight up hobby. The ones that fail in my opinion are the ones who think they are gonna slap a Lamborghini together and go pick up chicks, some fail because of lack mechanical aptitude! As long as you have patience, look at the project as being a fun hobby, and have the will to learn new things you will do just fine. Honestly the Vaydor is a great choice with a good supporting cast of previous builders. While we do learn from each others builds not many if any of the cars on here follow a similar path to completion! The Vaydor on the other hand has somewhat of a fail safe road map. If the Vaydor was available prior to starting my build that would be the path I'd be on. Good luck with your decision and make sure to document your build!!! ::beers
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TheOne, these guys are right. I would love to sell you a Chupacabra, but realistically we have months of development before it is ready. I have built over 300 cars, most of which when I owned Fast Lane Engineering, and the one Vaydor that I was recently involved with was difficult for me. Realistically, you have only two choices, the GTM from Factory Five or the Superlite Coupe from Fran Hall and Racecar Replicas. Like RT, I do not get anything from endorsing these either, but if you go with the Superlite, tell Fran he owes me a beer.
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Gentleman Factory Five or other has no Exotic looks and fame, I think he wants something that is Lambo, Vaydor , Bugatti etc, for impressing head turners and build in couple of years the most. ok I'm out of here , no more comments on that from me.
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Gentleman Factory Five or other has no Exotic looks and fame, I think he wants something that is Lambo, Vaydor , Bugatti etc, for impressing head turners and build in couple of years the most. ok I'm out of here , no more comments on that from me.
Eddie, why does a Vaydor qualify for looks and fame on your list and a Factory Five GTM does not? And how is a Bugatti on your list built faster than a bolt together GTM?
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Well the vaydor has that wow look even it’s G35
GTM not to many knows it’s in 100k $ when Finnish
( personally friend of mine build it and I did all body work and paint .i can post pictures when I get home)
But back to Fame and exotics the cars I mention are well know and everybody , well most people recognize
No offence to Gtm or other similar cars .
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One more thing Charley
I was not comparing faster asst on kits
All I mean. He’s after the exotic look
and he thinks ( maybe) it’s wham bam
That Gtm was a very poverfull car
With ls3 / flipped G50
Tonight I’ll post on other subject
Like Gtm pics
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Your best bet on building a Vaydor would be to locate someone who has built one. Find a Vaydor forum or start one. The most safe and driveable chassis is what you will need and it's not a walk in the park. If you read the posts on this forum, you can find the information that is needed and the dos & don'ts. KitCentral and Madmechanics forums can help also. Use the "Search" option on this forum instead of multiple posts asking questions that have already been posted and answered. Use the "PM" to contact members about pricing and availability.
Praising a Vaydor on Lamboclone.com is like walking into a Ford Dealer and asking a mechanic how to set up a Corvette dual-point distributor. Oops! I just had a flashback.
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https://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/listing/2018/vaydor/roadster/1897991 (https://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/listing/2018/vaydor/roadster/1897991)
this one on dupont going for 51k usd crazy spec too
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Just because I was told I couldn’t....guess it’s time a few people put a foot or two in their mouth.
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good for you , you don't mind post sometimes how's doing
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Naysayers
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Awesome! Glad you started your project. Are you going to keep a build diary? If you do, don't forget to give us the link. :) I look forward to watching your progress.
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cool, no support under carriage of unibody? be careful she can bow. keep posting I like it
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Lol at the people who think they’re the only ones who can build something. If people in the past listened to the naysayers..... and there are a lot here but I won’t let you extinguish my dreams... hopefully a newb will see this and be inspired >:(
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I think it's great that you are building the Vaydor. But you don't need to sound bitter to the people who try to inject a little reality to those who are thinking of starting a build project. The words of wisdom are given so that people understand the true level of commitment, skill and cost involved. A large percentage of builds are never completed because people get in over their heads by not appreciating the real effort that will be required. Most "naysayers" are just trying to help those who aren't truly prepared from wasting lots of money and time. I hope all newbs are inspired... but they still need to be told the truth so they can make an informed decision.
Anyway, I'm enjoying watching your progress and look forward to seeing how the Vaydor comes together.
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I often see people ridicule a newb for their desire to build something on this forum... I was even one of those whom were ridiculed. So with that being said I plan on proving some people wrong here. If I just registered for this forum and am a “newb” to some of you, you still have no idea what I'm capable of and in most case it resorts to a post from someone discouraging a build... but this is a build forum so why discourage that? It doesn't matter what someone wants to do if they have a dream to do something if they fail so be it.. how many people drop out of college or don't even use the degree they received.. some people here do this forum an injustice by ridiculing people because the have hopes and dreams.. I will prove them wrong. People on this site know nothing about a person but always assume that it's impossible for a new member to be able to build something and that like me telling a first time home buyer to take a hike if they had a dream of owning a home ... you don't do that, you direct them so that they can achieve that. But here it's more about people being jealous that someone else can do what you do, and it reminds me of high school and the people who are discouraging probably weren't even that cool in high school...so all I'm saying is please try and be more supportive, especially if this is a BUILD forum
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What are your plans for a strong frame work for your chassis?
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Suggestion: Maybe this thread should be moved to the "Build Diaries"
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Coming together
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Still going!!!