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The Forum => Other Topics => Topic started by: ShockDaMonkey on June 20, 2023, 03:53:04 AM
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what is a Decent budget for a Complete kit car $40k to $65k With no recycled parts ?
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Are you building it yourself, paying to have one built, or buying one already built?
If you're having someone build it just don't, you're going to get scammed.
If you're buying one already built be very careful, there is a lot of garbage cars out there. Make sure to inspect the chassis, suspension, body reinforcement & mounting, door hinges & glass, everything. Most "replicas" being sold are garbage that need a ton of work to fix.
If you,re building it yourself know that these cars are not easy to build, it takes an incredible amount of skill and time to do it right. If you don't have much fabrication experience you're in for a tough time, be prepared for it to take many years and a lot of money to learn, even then you'll probably end up with garbage unless you have a really good mentor and a lot of patience.
As far as budget that depends on how good it is/you want to make it. Expect it to cost more than you think. But seriously if you're not a fabricator I recommend avoiding these cars all together.
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Not sure what you mean by no recycled parts? We often have to find used oem parts to use and in some cases we find badly broken oem parts and then repair them to use. If oem parts aren't available... or more likely are out of reach because of the price, then non oem parts get modified for use. This all sounds like recycling to me.
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What I mean by recycled parts is a Donor car because most likely you're going to be using a crashed donor car.
So that's why I don't want to use any recycled parts. Which means they would be all new parts.
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I'm just trying to figure out What is a fair amount. And a good budget to stay in.
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You didn't directly answer Nickmkk's question, but it sounds like you plan to build the replica yourself. There is nothing wrong with using parts from a crashed car. There are a number of parts that are really tough to replicate and a used oem part (if available) will be your best option. An example would be the Aventador headlights. A pair of new headlights will set you back about $15,000 (USD). If you are rolling in money then go for it. But most replica builders will either build them themselves or see if they can source used or broken headlights to rebuild.... which may come from a crashed car.
If you have the ability to fabricate parts or utilize used oem parts when necessary then (assuming you have the skills to do all the work yourself) a budget of $50-60k is realistic. If you only want to use new oem parts then the next question is how do you feel about fabricated parts? Eg do you want to fabricate a door hinge yourself, or do you have to have an new oem door hinge? Etc. How much of the car do you need to be new oem parts? Much more info is required to advise you on a budget.
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Like I have said before i'm just trying to figure out a Decent budget amount and not using Recycled parts that's all.
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Neils88 I don't understand why you would say a $50k to $60k Budget is ridiculous
When there are builds that are Creeping up ok 50k
Using recycled parts and are not even completed.
Like I have said just trying to figure out what is a good budget is
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But do you consider a badly fabricated part better than a mint condition oem used part? Replicas typically are less than 10% oem. What are your expectations for the other 90%?
If you want perfection, with only new oem parts then your budget should be about $300k+
I have bought many used oem Aventador parts that appear mint condition but were half the price or less. I just ordered a couple of used switches...$150. If I'd bought the switches new it would have cost close to $750. These are "recycled" parts (bought through the supercar wrecker Eurospares in England). If you consider this unacceptable then honestly you will need to purchase a new car.
A replica car is built with mostly fabricated or recycled parts.
I don't want to beat the point to death, I just want to make sure that you are truly ready for what building a replica actually means. We're all here to guide people into one of the greatest projects of your life.... or save people lots of time, money, spouses
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If you reread my earlier post, I said $50-60k is realistic NOT ridiculous. BUT.... continue to my previous post....
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One other point based on your subject heading. Be clear, these are not "Kit" cars. There is no place you can go to buy a box of parts to be assembled. There are no instruction manuals. You'll spend hours researching every component and then buying square pegs to fit in round holes.... it'll be left to you to figure out how to make them fit.
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Neils88 Well I do apologize and I did thought. You said it was ridiculous that was my fault. I do take the blame on that. I did misread that.
But on the other hand I thought I was pretty clear on the headlining of the post. I'm just trying to find what a good budget is.
And I never mentioned anything about a replica car. Again just trying to figure out what a good budget is.
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Ummmm...... you do understand this is a Lamborghini replica forum? My apologies if that's not what you're after. Perhaps the best source would be the Factory Five guys.
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Yeah I know this Is primarily a lamborghini replica form but you do have other builds as well. That's why this topic is in other topics. I think you're missing the point here like I said before
just Trying to see what a good budget is that's it
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Understand that you came onto a lamborghini replica site and asked "what is a good budget". We responded accordingly. For future reference, take the time to outline what you want to build, what your expectations are, performance, your skills, etc,etc. Kit car is the generic term that newbies use. It's meaningless. "What is a good kit car budget" is also completely meaningless. The answer is $40k to $2.5M. An equally meaningless answer.
Take time to figure out what you want. Then find the correct site. Explain in detail what you are planning. Then and only then can you expect an appropriate answer. It may not be what you want, but art least at that point you can adjust your expectations. Don't come to a site and expect people to understand what you are asking when you don't give them anything to work with.... nor did you answer some of the basic questions which would have saved all this back and forth.
I hope you learn from this and follow some of this basic advice. If you can't, then you'll definitely want a different hobby..... because it gets a lot harder from here on!
(Also...."So I'm really considering building a replica from scratch.
Can I actually get sued from Audi Lamborghini from building a replica.
I know Ferrari will probably take you to court and all kinds of stuff.
But I'm not so sure. Audi and lamborghini.
Does anyone really have a real answer?" This what you posted 3 weeks ago. So you definitely stated that you were considering a lamborghini replica.)
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I don't understand why you're going on a rant And tangent anyways. You don't have 2.5 million dollars to build a car that is why you are building a replica.
So why the mention it?
And you're saying you hope i Learn lmfao
You probably don't even know how to use a tig welder.
And yes I know a lot about building a car probably no more than you.
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It doesn't matter. I'm not going to waste my survive on someone that's worthless and Being a knob. You hope I learned like I said I probably know a lot more about building a car than you do.
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You're right. Maybe I just need to go and delete this and not waste my time on this stupid Form because of people like you.
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I'm glad you know more about building cars than I do. I'm just trying to help you out. I'm not trying to be a knob. I'm trying to help you see that if you want a useful answer you will need to supply more information. If you went to see a building contractor and asked them "what is a good budget for building a house", they won't be able to answer you unless you tell them specifically what you want. You must be able to see this!?
You don't need to be offended. I apologize if you see this as a rant, but if you take a pause and read what has been posted from Nick and myself then hopefully your future posts will get you the answers that you want.
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It don't matter Because all your guys is questions were very unrelevant so I just never will post anything ever again on this form and I Actually really would like to leave this not letting to leave. I think this form is full of just toxic people like you. And I'm not going to deal with anyone that is toxic. So yes I would like to leave this b******* f****** form.now please
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I'm far from toxic. Just trying to help you. Perhaps this is a language barrier. No question is irrelevant.
The bottom line. You keep repeating that you want the budget for a kit car. Until you state what kind of car you are trying to build, no one can answer your question.
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Hmmmmm....... guess I broke another one.
Why are people so offended when they are asked questions after they post on the forum!?
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LoL this guy sounds like your typical butt hurt millennial. Lol somehow we're all toxic here now?
God how many times did he endlessly repeat the the same nonsense.
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Neils88, appreciate your trying to help educate the guy. Nothing else you could have done. He obviously does not know the true builders and fabricators who consistently help fellow builders. You are appreciated.
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I'll try to be more gentle with the next one...
Though I will say one thing, his grammar and spelling was terrible. That complete lack of attention to detail is never a good sign for someone wanting to get into this hobby.
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I built a replica once!
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ShockDaMonkey
Welcome to Lamboclone
i have sent you a personal message
thanks guys for trying to help with answers to his questions.
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OK MY TURN!!!!
If he were so versed in building cars, why ask such a question? I know that many of the people trying to offer guidance have forgotten more than most.
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I'm not sure if your still following this thread but here is my .02 cents. I like all types of builds I actually went to Carlisle to buy a Cobra and it was pouring that day. I met Dan from IFG because he didn't have to cover his car when it rained and it reminded me how much I loved the styling of Lambo's. He talked me out of a Countach because of how hard it was to see out of them while driving and I bought a Diable VT. So to your question and I would think this would be for about any type of "kit" for a lack of better words would be to find out what it costs for the body, interior, motor, suspension, and other options which the manufacturer can help you with. Then the rest is up to your abilities. If you can do everything like fabing up mounts, welding, suspension, body work, painting etc then you can save a lot if money. Once you get a price for the vehicle you want you can add on 10K for a complete "kit" that has everything with it to probably 80K if it just has the basics with it. When I bought mine a Cobra was around 15K and you still needed a doner Mustang. My Lambo was about 12K delivered which was just a shell. The expensive things that you had to buy for it were wheels and tires, a Fiero doner, paint which was $2500 just to buy and tons of metal for framing plus all the small stuff.
So to sum it up after buying the "kit" and I am using that term because mine was a box full of parts, you can expect to add 10 to 80K depending on what you want to have when it is completed. The most important thing that you need more than money is patience.
Don't know if this helps
Thanks
Jim
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I got an email that I had a private message here and signed in for the first time in probably a year, actually had kind of forgotten about this Forum. While here, I decided to look around and see what I have missed and this was the first thread I looked at. I will check back in another year.