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Build Diaries => Murcielago => Topic started by: usmc_butler on April 02, 2012, 10:26:52 AM
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I recently purchased a LP640 replica and figured I would start a new build thread.
I decided to give this car the name "Chaos". Greek God Chaos (Greek χάος khaos) refers to the formless or void state preceding the creation of the universe or cosmos in the Greek creation myths, more specifically the initial "gap" created by the original separation of heaven and earth
Here are a few pictures on the way home from Dallas
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Here is what I will be going for....
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Just importing some useful info from Chris for reference!
If you want to mount your radiators in the rear, it's best to remove the stock corners of the Fiero (if this is what you are using for a donor). I'm attaching a picture of the area I removed and boxed in on mine. I used some angle iron and made some frames to hold the Civic radiators that would attach to the insides of the boxed in sections. I ended up going back in and removing more metal which is shown by the lines drawn into the pictures.
The kicker is that all this work was in vain on my car since I'm going with a custom rear frame now and I'll build new radiator mounting areas on the new frame. My advice is that if you are looking at an engine swap, relocating the radiators, frame stretch (if not already done) and axle lengthen, you might want to consider going with a custom rear frame attached to the Fiero tub.
I found that I've wasted a lot of time and money trying to modify a 30 year old Fiero to do things it was never intended to do versus just investing up front in the custom rear frame which would've been the more logical and cost effective way of doing this.
Just some friendly advice from someone who has been there and doing that... :)
Chris
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Thanks again "No Bull" for the good info hope you don't mind that I am sharing this.
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Im not going to take credit for this however it is totally worth passing on here is a screen shot from another Forum
I was planning on using F150 vents but you cant beat the price and the OEM looks of these for the money.
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Unresolved Issue one axle is to short by like 3"
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While I was at the parts store I noticed this
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I guess someone was going to attempt to cut the axle and extend it? Either way now I have a shaft that doesn't work and a weak spot...
I ran across this site however I dont know if it is something I can use or not?
http://www.gmtuners.com/swap/axles.htm (http://www.gmtuners.com/swap/axles.htm)
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I did a little trimming on the donor Fiero to get the dash to sit better, still needs the top trimmed to go down a little more
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Go the motor fired up for the first time this weekend! Just couldn't resist...! Still lots to do, but at least there is a heartbeat anytime I need some motivation 8)
(http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/dustin_butler/?action=view¤t=IMG_7710.mp4)
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Inner doors are going to take some work :-\
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The trick with the doors is to screw your door in place when you have the rubber trim piece in. Then you build the metal framework around your newly configured door. The heavy metal will hold the door in place. I can dig through some pictures if you need em...
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Jets,
Can you post the process with pictures in the Doors section of the site? The doors seem to be one of the hardest parts of our builds so I'm sure that all information from those who've completed this part of the project will be appreciated by others.
Thanks,
Chris
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I don't know if you were there when murcieme wrote up a howto on door line up but search "Door line up questions" on the other site. I didn't want to post it since I didn't write it.
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I wasn't there but I will look it up, thanks for the info....
Here is one of my many other projects I drove to work today...
I have a build thread on it also, it is still far from being done
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Oh and also for the upper track for the window that needs to be made: "Murcielago side glass / Power windows"
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So something like this minus the A-piller trim... I got this picture form his car (hope he doesn't mind) his car is amazing, he has done so much engineering to make it near perfect its unbelievable. I wish he would be a little more active over here 8)!
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That's exactly what you need to do. My windshield was sitting higher than the roof. A lot of fun to fix lol. Keep up the good work the car looks great.
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So last week I sent my interior to a friend to have checked out and turns out my console is for a right had drive car, WTH ??? weird...
"These pictures show the switch plate template in its proper position(black). And reversed( silver). And as you can see it fits perfect backwards."
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Ooh that's something I need :D the g28 console is so cheap looking. or g24 whatever they call it now.
Did it also come with the lid and seatbelt part?
Weird, I wonder why Rob sells RHD console ???
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Ooh that's something I need :D the g28 console is so cheap looking. or g24 whatever they call it now.
Did it also come with the lid and seatbelt part?
Weird, I wonder why Rob sells RHD console ???
I have no Idea why he sells them like that, its about like your door panels he made, its all supposed to fit but does it ???? We all know the answer...
You need a console? or the switch plate?
I have the 3 piece lids, lower piece that the lids go on and the console (for a RHD???) but nothing above where the seatbelt's go through...
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Both console and plate but I figure if I could find the dimensions for the plate it could easily be made out of abs and then covered in carbon or whatever.
I shot him an email :)
I am wondering if the g28 dash handle and leg rest(?) fit against the console nicely? After it is modified to LHD that is. It looks like a lot has to be changed though, I wonder why no one is complaining that they can't use their parts from Rob? All the positive comments he gets on his website. I don't even think he has that many customers.
Oh never mind the seatbelt area is part of the firewall trim that no one's ever replicated. I was thinking of the part below that which I guess is part of the 3 piece lid.
I plan on doing the firewall interior like oem but of course you need the console to compare dimensions to.
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Ive mocked mine up with the, rob built grab handle and the lower dash piece that goes under the steering column and they seemed to meet up ok with the console ???... However he has a OEM duplicate switch panel so most people unless they have some OEM parts may never know the difference in RHD vs LHD console.
The console would be a breeze to duplicate with dimensions. The only tricky part would be where the console bends back behind the seats. It would only be a problem if you are going for a OEM looking rear firewall (which you are) but nobody looks behind the seats. I've been looking for a rear picture of the console (cant find one)
OEM (No really its my interrior ;D)
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/dustin_butler/amazing-lamborghini-murcielago-interior-steering.jpg)
My (other) interrior :-[
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A few other pictures just for comparison reasons
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Here is a picture of a console that is close to the way mine is... The rear is the only problem you might have on duplicating your own
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I might know what is creating some of the confusion. There are a bunch of mismatched and mixed up parts out there including OEM splashes and the original G24 & G28 parts. The OEM splashed parts look the best however they were designed to work with everything else OEM in the car including the full width and seats of an original car. One problem is that there are only a few builders that have actually got their car to the interior stages and dealt with fitting everything together. I've heard many stories of builders giving up at this point and simply sell the car after seeing the estimates from the local interior shop. Others have said to heck with it and used the G24 or G28 interior only to be unhappy with the results or find that the parts where mixed up by the maker of the body.
Murci-Me will tell you first hand that his interior looks the way it does because of the late hours he spent in the garage remaking everything. He's very reluctant to sell any parts because of the guys that are splashing everything without giving him any credit or profit from his hard work. I think your console is and OEM splash that is correct for a left hand drive. I say this because what appears to be the mounting area for the grab handle is on the passenger side which would be correct (see the area with the raised circle). Maybe someone else can confirm this? Don't be surprised if your door cards won't need reworked and most builders remake the instrument panel cover. I've also heard of some builders either narrowing or widening the console to make it fit better in the different bodies (Fiero, MR2 and Boxster).
The way I look at this, you are going to spend the same amount at the interior shop to cover a bad looking core as you will with a reworked and more original looking core so you might want to consider investing more on the foundation now. Oh, by the way, the interior was one of the reasons that I decided to go with my race car theme. I'll have less invested in trying to replicate a OEM interior and a lot of liberty in adding things that you'd expect to see in a race (toggle switches, fire extinguisher, carpet delete etc.)
To each his / her own and you build what makes you happy.. it's your dream. :)
Chris
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The main part of the console I might be able to do but I'd never be able to do the top pieces or at least look like they are oem. Probably not worth trying. The g28 lid doesn't look the same and doesn't match oem console width I'm sure.
As for not being RHD, if you notice the left side has a straight edge for the handle and the opposite side goes narrow for the other piece so I'm thinking both sides have that circle. Compare to the oem interior pic.
I think the console looks just like it does in this picture.
< Flat edge narrow edge >
(http://aussieexotics.com/drivers/albums/userpics/10002/md_IMG_9801.JPG)
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Another thing to note here is that there's only a handful of people that would look in our interior and say "HEY, that console is an inch narrower than OEM, and that angle is different." I think that 95% of the people looking at our cars wouldnt know the difference between an OEM Murcie interior versus and Hyundai Sonata interior with a bull logo on the steering wheel and Lamborghini emblem on the dash, lol
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No Bull hit the nail on the head when he was talking about Murcie-Me's build because I can totally relate now that i'm into my build and spent a month trying to make my engine cover work, I can understand why people did things the way they did. I fought that darn engine cover trying to position the hinges, latches, gas springs, narrowing it .75", blah, blah, blah. It might not be 100% correct, but it's finally done and I can move onto the next hurdle. I can't tell you how many times I had visions of how I was going to build something but as I got into it, I realized that it wasnt going to work that way and I had to change directions.
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Some of us have looked at pics of the oem interior so much that we have to have the same look, but as for the hatch even I wouldn't notice the shocks and the angle of the hatch as it comes up isn't exactly oem. I didn't care too much about that. But I still have a lot of work to do on my hatch it doesn't line up very well :( It's all bodywork now. I bet some parts need to be reinforced on the bottom before sanding to match the body. I get ahead of myself and try doing a batwing when the hatch isn't done LOL
I can't tell you how many times I had visions of how I was going to build something but as I got into it, I realized that it wasnt going to work that way and I had to change directions.
Yeah Dustin looks like you're going to have to switch to right hand drive :D
j/k
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Some of us have looked at pics of the oem interior so much that we have to have the same look, but as for the hatch even I wouldn't notice the shocks and the angle of the hatch as it comes up isn't exactly oem. I didn't care too much about that. But I still have a lot of work to do on my hatch it doesn't line up very well :( It's all bodywork now. I bet some parts need to be reinforced on the bottom before sanding to match the body. I get ahead of myself and try doing a batwing when the hatch isn't done LOL
I can't tell you how many times I had visions of how I was going to build something but as I got into it, I realized that it wasnt going to work that way and I had to change directions.
Yeah Dustin looks like you're going to have to switch to right hand drive :D
j/k
That's my problem, I don't even have the body sitting on the frame correctly and I'm worried about interior!
You are completly right....! Anyone have a spare RHD dash laying around 8)?!?!
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The main part of the console I might be able to do but I'd never be able to do the top pieces or at least look like they are oem. Probably not worth trying. The g28 lid doesn't look the same and doesn't match oem console width I'm sure.
As for not being RHD, if you notice the left side has a straight edge for the handle and the opposite side goes narrow for the other piece so I'm thinking both sides have that circle. Compare to the oem interior pic.
I think the console looks just like it does in this picture.
< Flat edge narrow edge >
([url]http://aussieexotics.com/drivers/albums/userpics/10002/md_IMG_9801.JPG[/url])
I see what you are talking about now with the sides and sure enough, it's a LHD console. Guys I'm in the same boat and I have a LHD console also (from Rob). I think this console originally started from a part that LamboLambo splashed in Malaysia and sent over here.
http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/mall/11834-murcielago-replica-loose-parts-lambolambo-5.html (http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/mall/11834-murcielago-replica-loose-parts-lambolambo-5.html)
Take a look at the picture and tell me if it looks familiar. :)
So guys.... what do we do now, I'm not switching to RHD LOL!
Chris
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You mean You have a RHD console? And need a LHD? Lost here...?! It's been a long day maybe I'm looking to much into it! ???
And you are building a race inspired Murci (which is a fantastic idea!) so make it out of stainless?! It would look sweet for a race build... Just an idea
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I don't know why lambolambo made the doorcards without modifying them anyway since most of us have g28s and the people that do have oem bodies, they almost always have mr2 interior or some other car. He also flattened the holes where the 'door open' light, tweeter, buttons, handle, etc. goes in case we want to use different parts. Doesn't make much sense, if it's already that accurate you might as well use the oem parts as they aren't extremely expensive compared to what you'd spend on the oem parts required for the body anyway. Alpha romeo light might be hard to find though.
Even john watson is using Audi interior not murcie.
So who is using these parts without having to modify them :S
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Ok.. I'm sorry it was a very long weekend and I'm still recovering. My console is like yours and for a RHD car and I need a LHD console (North America correct). bare aluminum or aluminum covered in carbon fiber would look good in my car but I was really trying to stick with some key OEM pieces to make the car believable as a "Factory experimental race car". I suppose that I don't have many other choices at this point other than fabricate something.
Chris
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Ok... to avoid further confusion here is a map of Left hand drive (blue) and Right hand drive (red).
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/Countries_driving_on_the_left_or_right.svg/800px-Countries_driving_on_the_left_or_right.svg.png)
In the USA we are technically a "right hand drive" country which references the side of the road we drive on vs. the side of the car that the steering wheel is on (this was what was confusing the heck out of me). :)
My console is like yours and was splashed from a LHD console.
Sorry for any confusion that I might have caused. ::)
Chris
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Ok gotcha! Told you it was a long day, but pictures always make more sense then words...! :o
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:S u mean LHD is red
so confused lol
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We drive on the right hand but steering wheel is on the left... What am I? A Mail man...! Sorry early morning now, still tired... :P
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Ooh I missed the text under the map! I'm tired too.
I've never even heard of anyone refer to it as the side of the road we drive lol
strange
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Set my body on last night to see what all needs to be trimmed and cut to get the body to sit correctly.
Tallon, you are correct about the quarter window and the rear firewall. To make it close to OEM specs the firewall needs to be moved forward about 4"-6"...
I probably wont mess with the firewall due to leg room, will probably block off the quarter window vents and just make them for looks and put a pocket on each side of the rear window... Just an idea
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The old dash needs to be cut down about 3" to get the body to sit correctly
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I remember being at this stage in my build and being so excited to see the body on. I would seriously stand back and stare at it for hours! Looking good man keep it up!
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Definitely looking good! Keep up the great pics. Like Jets said.....its so exciting to see the body on after all the work to get it ready.
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Here is something I was working on before I left for Vegas last week... I mounted a 2,000lb winch to the metal perlin
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Package form JD arrived while I was away also...
Still Missing:
OEM Rear grills
OEM grab handle
OEM foglight switch cover
Viper rotors
Rear OEM Lamborghini Script....
Not complaining however! I needed this stuff as well, this will leave me with a extra set of side markers if anyone needs a set.
Digibeam sure does some fantastic work! He made most of those items (excluding the OEM Markers).
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Yeah that airbag vinyl is made by digi but I thought he was sending that to me, I didn't know JD even asked for one :S
Exhaust tip looks awesome
I don't see why JD is stalling on giving you all the parts
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I made those headlight rings. They were in the package that JD stole from me.
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D'oh! >_<
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I made those headlight rings. They were in the package that JD stole from me.
And the plot thickens.... >:( So now Tallon and I are in the same boat :-\
Hey Jets what happened to you last weekend?
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Excellent build, I really like the wheels you have. Would you mind letting me know what brand and size they are? How much are you looking to get for on the marker lights, just curious right now since I don't even have a kit yet.
Hopefully next week I will be placing a deposit on one. When I do I'll make my build thread here. You guys have a really nice site.
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Ill have to look at size and brand of the wheels/tires, I know they are 20's all the way around 8.5's front and 13's rear. I can't remember the tire size off hand. The markers I purchased for 45 plus shipping and they came with the side mirror switch and you can have them for what I paid for them. The only reason I am selling them is due to I got another set with my car and didn't know it when I bought the others. Who are you getting your car from? I cant stress this enough DO YOUR RESEARCH on the builders ;) Glad to see you came here, this is a great forum all we are trying to do is assist every part of a replica build, share build stories, joke around a little & have fun, tell everyone to come over here! 8)
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Thanks for checking on those rims and tires for me. I plan on getting the kit from John Watson; I had to sell my motorcycle to pay for part of the kit :'(. So I will be sending my deposit sometime next week since the guy I sold my motorcycle to will be picking it up on Monday :'( :'( :'(.
Sweet, thank you very much for the warm welcome, hopefully I can make you guys proud with my build also.
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One thing to remember no matter who tells you what "there is no wrong way to build these cars" everyone has there own technique but most fundamentals are the same, ie; how to fiberglass, weld, etc. I am no professional AT ALL actually ive only been messing with my car a little over a month. But research and parts collecting is key. Nothing will bring you down like trying to finnish up with something and not having the part (my biggest problem). What are you using for a donor car?
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I am planning on using a Porsche Boxster for this build, if you see any big problems with this please let me know.
How do you search for your parts, I’ve noticed that many people on the threads are kind of vague on where to get parts. It would be good to have a good resource for all those small things that keep you from finishing up with something like you mentioned.
Where did you get your exhaust and the headlight rings? Seems that finding good parts and trustworthy people is hard.
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I am planning on using a Porsche Boxster for this build, if you see any big problems with this please let me know.
How do you search for your parts, I’ve noticed that many people on the threads are kind of vague on where to get parts. It would be good to have a good resource for all those small things that keep you from finishing up with something like you mentioned.
Where did you get your exhaust and the headlight rings? Seems that finding good parts and trustworthy people is hard.
You knocked the nail on the head with that statement "Seems that finding good parts and trustworthy people is hard." I don't see anything wrong with using a Porsche Boxter however not many people run them (prob due to pricing) so you wont find a ton if information about how to make the body fit, etc. For the price of a Boxter you could probubly get a custom chassis made ??? ? Most bodes are designed for a Fiero they are cheap and readily available then do a SC3800 swap (that is what I am doing). There was one other guy doing a Boxter build and he was keeping his Boxter interior which if you weren't going for OEM that would be perfect.
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Wow that's pretty good then because I see another one on ebay for $199.00 and another for $220
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LAMBORGHINI-OEM-CD-STEREO-RADIO-/330677340565?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item4cfde7c995&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/LAMBORGHINI-OEM-CD-STEREO-RADIO-/330677340565?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item4cfde7c995&vxp=mtr)
only it looks blue or maybe it's lighting.
Different guy selling it.
I want the "CD/NAV/AM/FM RADIO W/ 6 DISC CD CHANGER" oh there's one for $700
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Got a little work done last night. Battery relocated to the front and wired with a switch. I rand the wires ran through the front firewall down the console and through a grommet in the rear firewall to the motor
Forgive the hacked up battery box it's what I had (it will be mounted more permanently later)
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Console seems to be coming along good! Special thanks to Digibeam (wish he would make an account!)
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Does Frank have a mold of the center console glovebox?
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Lookin good! Console looks excellent!
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I can't wait to get an oem glove box and console it's probably my favorite parts
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Does Frank have a mold of the center console glovebox?
No, I don't think so. Ill check for ya though ;)
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Is that a Sebring column in there? If so what steering wheel are you using?
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Will that console fit a Fiero tub with room for the seats? I have the G28 center console and that one looks a lot wider in the back. I would love to have the glove box if it were narrowed to fit my G28 console. In fact I would narrow it if someone sells one.
Console seems to be coming along good! Special thanks to Digibeam (wish he would make an account!)
([url]http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/dustin_butler/IMG_8029.jpg[/url])
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You can make the glove box fit but the console wont (for Fiero builds)
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Well I won the auction to get my items back....!
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At least the right guy got them. I hope it works out for you.
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I just got a call from Eric Martin (Chassisbuiler) in Dallas. He has my 13" Dodge Viper cross drilled and slotted rotors done and redrilled with the rotor centeralignment rings done 8) Now I will have all new brakes by the weekend... Now if I just had some axles and radiators mounted, I could go for a test drive with the chassis this weekend :o Anybody have a good reference for getting custom axles made?
Dustin
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What calipers are you using with the 13" rotors? Wilwoods? Brembos?
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I'm actually using a new set of OEM Fiero calipers and good set of pads. I purchased an adapter kit to use the factory calipers. The brake pad contact width area is the same as the Viper only difference is the length contact patch is shorter (2 pistons calipers instead of 3)... The way I look at it is; the car isn't going to weigh much more (or even less) then the original donar car and the donar car stoped great! So more then anything it's for looks and maybe get a little more stopping power ;D
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Wont it look a little silly though with big 13" rotors and little Fiero callipers?
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Actually they don't look bad, I'm sure not up to OEM specs but I can always go back with bigger calipers later
Here is the link to a similar kit that I found
http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=40.0 (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=40.0)
And if I want to go total poser I can just use these
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/229329-Ohhhh-Noooo-Glue-on-Brembo-brake-caliper-covers (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/229329-Ohhhh-Noooo-Glue-on-Brembo-brake-caliper-covers)
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You could dress them up with a set of the caliper covers. I wasn't a big fan of these when I first seen them and worried about the safety and durability with using them. They must be ok, because there are tons of them listed for sale on eBay which would suggest that guys are buying and using them.
I've seen the covers with Brembo on them but has anyone seen a set with the Lamborghini script that looks half way realistic?
Chris
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I've seen these, don't know if the guy is still making them.
http://www.kitcentral.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=8816&sid=9bec8170d36ce8780aa51b571d7ea3c8 (http://www.kitcentral.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=8816&sid=9bec8170d36ce8780aa51b571d7ea3c8)
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Got all of the 13" Viper rotors installed (Special thanks to Eric @ KitCarChassis) Here are a few shots of how they look. Brakes looks small on the 20" wheels!
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Sure is quiet around here this evening. Guess lots of work going on :o hopfully lots of pictures in the morning ;D! I got a little done lately, new tranny cooler mounted and hoses plummed. Starting and running off of the key, WITH OIL PRESSURE this time ::) valve covers installed, working on trimming the body and getting the frame ready for the twin radiators ;D almost ready to get my paddle shifters and headlights from Murci-me...! Hopefully a month or so... Oh ya got me some UgLy fiero seats FREEBEE! Free stuff is always nice.
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I worked on my quarter window piece's last night and got both of them mocked up ready for glass. They could still use a little ::help to be better
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Aslo had a little time to start on some of the mounting points and minor suspension trimming and welding. It will still need lots more, I just ran out of time and material last night ::counfused. Trying to get the rear ready for the 2 radiators to be mounted and plumed for cooling.
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Ok so I need to do some trimming on the wheel opening front and rear. I am also going to need new tires if I plan on keeping the 20" wheels Ive done a little research and the tires sizes I found are 255/30/20 for the front (25.5") and 305/25/20 for the rear (26"), the tires I have now measure 26.5" (front) and 29" (rear). Does anybody know what the OEM gap needs to be from the body line down to the fender well opening on the front and the rear?
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Look what I got in the mail yesterday ::headbang ! Hope I can find a radio surround that will work for it since it is a singe din not a double din ::counfused
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Made a little progress last night on my rear engine cover, trunk piece (OEM exhaust access hatch ::scratch ), batwing framing & OEM tail light location.
I had to split the hatch down the middle the louvers were to long and bow'd way to much and temporarily mounted metal bracing to keep them correct until and can plate metal them in place and refiberglass them back together
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Next I had to trim 1/2 inch off of each side of the trunk access panel to got it to sit correctly on the body.
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Temporally mounted the OEM rear tag light grill for fitment and it fit near perfect ::toothy and held the OEM 640 light up to check alignment.
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The last thing I had time to do is mount my 2nd bar to use for the bat wing pivot point.
There will be cross bracing and sheet metal cover between these along with another SECRET plan I have ::tongue
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Worked on my Bat Wings some this weekend. The way they need to twist, almost flat at the bottom and curve with the engine hatch at the top. Needless to say they aren't very fun. They still need finished up, here are a few pictures of something what they will look like.
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Nice tail lights where did you score those? Tail lights are one of the items on my wish list right now but all the ones I have seen are much dinero! I am glad to see that you have been putting a lot of work into your car Dustin, you are moving right along.
What happened to your signature? Are you changing your mind on the color for your car? I know it’s difficult to decide on a color, for me it’s one of the most important parts of the build. This is one part where you can’t cut corners or all your hard work goes to crap.
Those batwings do look like fun, but I bet they don’t compare to the doors right? I see by the pictures that you have the driver’s side mounted and it looks pretty darn good, it seems to line up well. Maybe you can take some pictures of your framing, latches and hinges to see what you did on those. Good job brother!
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Hey Autopro, I actually got the 640 taillights with the car, that was one thing I made sure was there!
On the paint I did change my mind from black to orange. Everyone kept talking about how the dark colors effect the fiberglass in the sun and in southern US it gets HOT (not telling you anything you dont alredy know 8) ) So I decided I was going to go with a OEM Murci white, then I remembered Murci-me's car is white and Digibeam is going with white and so is Tallon. I know we are all on other sides of the country from each other but we are a small family in this hobby so I figured a little diversity with color would be best.
The doors aren't mounted yet ::sad I just set them up there for a visual and to see how they lined up. I do have all of my metal to start working on them, it shouldn't be long before I get them moving on there own! The hardest part on the door for me will be finding a point on the chassis to mount the door hinge tab and still let the Maxima windshield go through without touching anything metal. The rest won't be that bad I don't think. The bat wings suck because they want to be flat instead of curved so trying to bend the metal and pull and attach the fiberglass sucks then keeping the top hinge straight so it lines up with the rear hatch is a PITA ::thumbup
Thanks for the comment!
Dustin
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Little more work and pictures. I got the other bat wing working and somewhat finished. I still need to finnish welding the frames up reattach them with 3M adhesive and fiberglass the back side of them for completion. I will do all of that once I get my batwing sides in and my actuators mounted and working.
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Also started on trimming the body to fit the LP640 Tail lights but cant go any further until I get some rear grills... ::scratch
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lights are so awesome
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Lights are the best thing on the build ::headbang.... everything else is just work and more money ::tongue
I NEED SOME ::LAMBO2 GRILLS so I can finnish mocking up everything in the rear ::duh ...
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Started my radiator support brackets that will bolt to the rears chassis...
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Also started on trimming the body to fit the LP640 Tail lights but cant go any further until I get some rear grills... ::scratch
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Make sure to line the outside diameter of the lights with a black sponge weatherstripping to help seal the gap between the light and the body. This gives a really nice finished appearance and provides a little friction protection between the parts (less squeaks and wear). There are different types of sponge weatherstripping and I personally like the denser version that resembles rubber more than a sponge.
Chris
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Sweet, thank you Bull. I probably ought to invest in lots of this stuff since I plan on splitting the front and rear bumpers, hatches, etc
Dustin
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Got my fuel filler cover in from John in last week! I plan on switching sides from the passenger to driver side with my filler. I think it will be more convent plus I don't want to have to walk around the car to fill up ::thumbup
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Sold my wheels over the weekend and getting a OEM Murci set from a member on this site ::headbang hope they clear my big brakes ::counfused
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Here is what they went on... Funny how the Challengers make the 20's look so small. He needs to lower it a bit or get a little bit bigger tires. But still looks bad a$$ in my opinion ::beers
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Cant tell much from the picture but these are the wheels I am getting... They will be powder coated Satin black ::LAMBO
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Since you have 13†brakes you should have no problem with the clearance, did you find any caliper covers? I know you where looking for some. I spoke to john last week and he has a set of real calipers, maybe we can ask him to make us some covers since the Murcielago caliper is 12†long and the biggest fake Brembo covers I was able to find are only 10†long. Are those the Speedline wheels, really can’t tell by the picture?
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Good idea, I'll shoot John a PM and see if he is interested in doing something like that for us ::beers
Yes they are the older Murci Speedline wheels. They will work until I can update to the newer style when they come down for $6-8,000 a set. These will be fantastic after having the 20's that I couldn't get anything on the body to fit right with. Kinda sucks, I'm at a stand still on the car until I get the wheels in. I need to get my body where it sits correctly before I can continue with my chassis. Guess I will start framing the door next ::scratch until they come in ::beers
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Tell John that I would also be interested in a set of caliper covers, maybe if enough of us want them he will make them.
Those are the same ones that I got and I think they still look pretty good and the satin black will look awesome! Don’t let the wheels hold you up just keep working away, there seems to be plenty to do to your car yet ::toothy
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Ya I know, I just needed and excuse to say im caught up and waiting on parts ::tongue
Dustin
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Wheels are shipping today ::headbang! Will be here next week ::toothy
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Looking good! ::salute
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Where have you been Texas?! Haven't seen you on the forum lately ::beers
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Were you having issues with both the front and rear tires/wheels not fitting? I see people putting 20's on the real car and wondered how well they fit and if it rubs anything.
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Ya the tires that were on the 20's were to big and I was going to get new tires until I found out how much the wheels cost then I didn't want to dump anymore money in a cheap set of wheels... Then a member on here had 2 sets of the older Murci wheels and tires for $1,500 so Tallon and I purchased them and I sold the others. I would have liked to kept the 20's had they been a better quality wheel like I was told they were in the beginning >:( .... But everything happens for a reason and I am super excited to get OEM wheels ::headbang!
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I have been looking at wheels and seen several pictures where the cheap ones broke into pieces. Do you happen to remember the old tire sizes? I don't wanna buy $$$$ wheels/tires and be :'( when they don't fit.
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I sure don't remember the old tire sizes I had, but I know if you run a 20"x11" wheel in the rear and a 20"x9" wheel in the front you will need a 255/30/20 tire for the front (25.5") and 305/25/20 tire for the rear (26"). that is what the Gallardo guys are running on there wheels and they are the same height as what the Murci guys are running with the acceptation of the Murcy guys are running a wider back tire and rim
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Wow they look better than chrome. I wonder if someone had them painted because I've never seen an oem with black version of this wheel. I even asked on lambo forum.
Hey I went to put my rear wheels on today and they don't really fit the corvette lugs for some reason ::scratch
I knew they were slightly off but they won't go on at all, do I have to drill the holes a little bigger?
vette is 5/120.65mm... same as fiero right?
It's strange though because everyone is saying the .65 wouldn't make enough of a difference but I can't get my wheel on.
I have brand new hubs from ebay (84 - 96 Chevy Corvette Rear Wheel Hub & Bearing Pair)
sorry still on vacation didn't get to take pics I just had to try to fit them quick
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.65 will make a difference, you will need to use a dremel or die grinder on the wheel but it will be very very little out of each hole
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Maybe the corvette studs are larger than what the wheel was designed for? I read that corvette and Lamborghini share the same stud thread (12x1.5) but I'd suggest verifying that... I also suggest using a .33mm oversized reamer to enlarge the holes to keep them concentric.
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Are you sure you got the correct hubs. I have the lambo wheels on mine with 5X4.75 bolt pattern no modification necessary. i would not try to modify the lambo wheels.
Could the bearings you received be actually 5X115m. Just a thought here.
Mike
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My wheels fit perfect on the S-10 hubs that have the same pattern as the corvette. I did not have to modify anything. You have the same wheels I do.
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It turns out it's the middle of the hub that is slightly bigger than the hole in the wheel, I'm trying to sand the wheel out with a flapper wheel but not having any luck, still won't slide on. I sanded the hub smooth as well. This is very strange. :\
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When my wheels get here at the end of the week I will see how mine fit. Digibeam did say to sand the inner hub of the wheel slightly with a flapper wheel.... That is what he had to do and I beleive both of you are running the same setup..?
Dustin
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I had to do the same thing to my wheels in order for them to go over the hub. It's very minimal the amount you have to sand out. Took about 10 mins. per wheel.
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yeah digi told me ten seconds then then seconds again but man I've been trying for over an hour on one wheel. It seems I have to sand til it's copper looking then sanded all the copper off to a silver... thought that would do the trick but still no :(
I'm even using bigger than what I was told I'm using 2-7/8"
it ended up shrinking in diameter anyway.
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Yes they are both original Murci wheels. Tallon and I purchased from the same guy at the same time...
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I hope those aren't first gen Murcielago rims.
Wow thanks a lot I guess our cars are going to look horrible just because you don't like the original wheels
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Since so many murci owners have custom wheels installed you don't need the original wheels to look authentic. Nothing wrong with the original wheels though.
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It would have costed us more if we used aftermarkets I believe. I would have been happy if I could have gotten SV style aftermarkets but I know I would have spent more plus it's nice to have oem's as well.
Didn't have to go through trouble of finding wheels that actually have the right offset or having to widen wheels.
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I hope those aren't first gen Murcielago rims.
Which wheels do you have on your car?
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Ok, right now I'm back to the parts gathering stage here are a few packages that showed up. Things that are in the mail are OEM Glass headlight assembles from bierhanzel, Hub adapters for the Murci wheels, OEM front and rear grills and still looking for a long travel front suspension...
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Also got this modified (to fit Fiero) Eclipse column in the mail however it was supposed to be the column cover NOT the whole column. I will sell it for what I paid or I am just going to try to send it back to where I got it from since I already have one installed in my car. I'll take $200 if anyone is interested before I send it back.
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Those black wheels are awesome, I've never seen them in that color before. Probably like mine, who ever had them must have had them coated. Yours look in better shape than mine unless it's just the picture making them look good.
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The picture is helping the wheels, tires are cracked (will work until I get the car finnished) and wheels are nice outside and peeling inside. Do you know if they are 2 or 3 piece wheels, I was going to pull them apart to have them powder coated...?
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My tires have cracks in them too, I wondered how bad that was
I have no idea it'll be awhile til I get mine coated
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Did you get your drive axles sorted out yet?
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No sure haven't yet... I'm still at a loss on what exactly to do. There are no drive axle shops near me and JD put this custom long travel suspension setup on the rear and I don't know how to measure what I need. I have the axle (tulips?) in the tranny but not the 3 bearings that slides onto the axle, then the Fiero hub accepts a smaller axle shaft then the HD tranny. Does that make any sense at all? Is that the problem everyone runs into?
Dustin
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You have several options, cheapest first;
1) Cut the axle, slide heavy walled tubing over and weld. A machine shop can machine it so things are a press fit before welding. Since you are running an automatic there should not be any sudden shocks that could break the axle welds.
Length - Set your car at ride height, install both ends (bearing stub and trans stub), set the plunging joint in the center and measure your gap.
2) Make your own using 1350 driveshaft parts available from any truck driveshaft shop. Very strong.
Cost about $300 each side.
3) Have custom 300M axle shafts made ...$$$$
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These shafts spin at a very low speed. I had a broken axle one time and purposely welded it with 1/4" of runout to create a vibration. (long story). It did not vibrate at all, even at 80 mph.
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Jdinner, thank you for the response ::thumbup I like option 1, I had no idea that they spin at a low RPM. Shouldn't be hard to have a set made now that I know this info! Thank you very much, again! ::thumbup
::salute Dustin ::usa
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Got my rear wheels mounted on the car... Still waiting on my front adapters to see how much I need to have the front A arms lengthened
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That's awesome, your car looks like it's coming along ::thumbup
My rears actually stick out too far even without brakes I have to come up with a way to fix it.
yours look perfect
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Grills came in! ::headbang
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I hope those aren't first gen Murcielago rims.
Wow thanks a lot I guess our cars are going to look horrible just because you don't like the original wheels
You do realize his car would have been spot on had he used LP640 wheels instead of 6.2 wheels instead?
I don't understand why people would use first gen Diablo wheels on a 6.0 or in this case 6.2 rims on an LP640 that just doesn't make sense to me at all. Oh well ill never understand....
Ya sorry, guess we all aren't made of money. Several things here; One, these wheels and tires where shipped less then $1,500 dollars; two, they are still Murci wheels; three, I refuse to give asking price for Hercules 640 wheels (6,000-8,000 dollars); four, this car wont be on the road for at least another year; five, I can always update at a later date and six, even if I did want to spend the $7,000 on the Hercules why would I want to mess them up while I am in the build process of the car (I needed a set for body mock up)? Not bein a prick, just a few facts for the brain to toss around.
However, I do appreciate the input! ::wave
Dustin ::LAMBO
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and I don't understand why you have a problem with things in everyone's builds regarding a range of things like chassis' engines wheels yet you don't have a build yourself.
and hermeras are crazy expensive
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I'm running steel wheels with smoothie moon hub caps. Because I can 8)
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More ::LAMBO2 Parts
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Wheels look good ::thumbup Are you going to powder coat them all black or are you going to leave them the way they are?
I also bought a pair of those license plate lights; they were pretty cheap I thought also. I didn't pay attention to the diagram when I bought them and didn't purchase the brackets for them :o. Guess I am going to have to place another order soon ::toothy
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I am going to powderoat them satin black, it will be a while before I do it, I dont want to take a chance on messing them up while I am working on the car.
I personally wouldn't buy them unless you just want to. A flat plate can be made and offer the same fitment as these little boxes. Here are the measurements if you want to save yourself 80 bucks and a month shipping from Italy
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That's what I will do, thanks Dustin.
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awesome thanks for the measurements ::rocker
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What's that for?
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Goes in the rear grill for the tag lights to mount inside...
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Little work done last night. Pulled my front A-Arms off the car to have the machine shop extend them 2 1/4" and working on getting my rear radiators in place.
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So when everyone is running or extending there front A-Arms how are the extending the steering rack up front? I wouldn't want to cut it and extend it that seems a little risky.
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HT Motorsports sells extensions for the steering rack as part of their wide track suspension. Any reason why you are stretching the stock arms instead of buying theirs?
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HT Motorsports sells extensions for the steering rack as part of their wide track suspension. Any reason why you are stretching the stock arms instead of buying theirs?
I was really wanting to go that route but cant afford the $1,200 they were wanting right now. Maybe in the future. I am also looking for some brake lines for the extended a arms. Maybe I will give them a call and see if they will sell just the tie rod extension's and brake lines. Thanks for the name of that company I've been looking all morning for it...
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Just talked to Richard at HT Motorsports and ordered my +2" tie rod extensions and +2" front brake lines and +4 rear brake lines ::headbang
Ready for some axles and radiators mounted and I'll be ready for a test drive of the chassis ::rocker
and finnish the whole car to look like a lambo owner ::tongue
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Yay!!! ::thumbup ::thumbup
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Been following for build since you started, its looking GREAT! I finished my Diablo Roadster build 1 year ago this month, so I have been driving it for a full year now. I have only put 2200 miles on it but every mile has been a blast. My only real mistake I made is not to put in the A/C system. Here in the Texas heat it sucks driving around in the middle of the day during the summer.
But just wanted to commend you on your work so far and really look foward to the day when your driving it...
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Thanks, SchulzeA znd Tony for the words!
Tony, I was going to ask you if you ever figured out anything on your AC yet. I am going to have to put AC in the car. Currently looking for somewhere to install the condenser, the only place I have found is in the front and It is going to kill my trunk space. However I don't plan on taking long trips so we will see. Another question for you, what does it sound like driving down the road? I have been curious about this, is there lots of wind noise or rattles or anything? I've always wanted to know this since so much has to be modified and re-sealed plus the fiberglass...
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Ok so Ive got a few SECRET pictures of my ::LAMBO2 console button switch plate. SHHH, don't tell anyone ::tongue!
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Oh did I mention it gonna be freakin HOT this week ::counfused
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Ok so Ive got a few SECRET pictures of my ::LAMBO2 console button switch plate. SHHH, don't tell anyone ::tongue!
Nice console ::salute What are you going to do for the switches and buttons? Let me know because I am going to need some and I know John Watson is also looking for some.
Now I know why you are going to need A/C for your car, that's hot!
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So am I!
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Got my A-Arms back from the machine shop
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Nice console ::salute What are you going to do for the switches and buttons? Let me know because I am going to need some and I know John Watson is also looking for some.
Now I know why you are going to need A/C for your car, that's hot!
There will be more stay tuned! haha
Buttons, Im not 100% sure yet, prob get some from CCIE or IKR unless somebody hits me up first.
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It looks great. The resin came out very thick and smooth. Did Digi build that? Solid Prepreg carbon?
I'm working on window switches. They are the 670 style though... The frames will be cut from aluminum.
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switch plate looks awesome Dustin
John wants to use oem buttons in his audi interior? :o
Alan, 670 style is always better ::headbang
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What is used for the round switches in the console and dash? Besides oem.
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It looks great. The resin came out very thick and smooth. Did Digi build that? Solid Prepreg carbon?
I'm working on window switches. They are the 670 style though... The frames will be cut from aluminum.
I cant confirm nor deny that Digi might have done that ::tongue! LOL (Might ask him! ::beers)
Those switches are freaking sweet, I would really be interesed in a set, I just dont think I can get the square base in the round hole ::scratch... HUmm So I might have to keep looking for some buttons. The chrome rings are going to be the fun part :'(
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Ha digi is a man of mystery.
Well the switch mounts on top, so it may cover the current hole. I will post the dimensions.
Whats the chrome ring dia? You can probably make the rings pretty easy with some stainless tubing or make them from steel and powder coat them chrome.
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Got some work done last night. Installed my extended A-Arms, started on my radiator support brackets, removed the rear bumper and a few odds and ends.
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Another Secret Revealed ::bounce
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Amazing. Great work!
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Let me know the exact brand of adhesive you use to flange the bumper back together. I've tried the black 3m adhesive and also sikabond which seemed to be permanent on test pieces but for some reason it keeps falling off the bumper I think the sun might be doing it I'm not sure. Trying to avoid getting that stuff jets recommended because it's kind of expensive. Metal flanges on fiberglass by the way. I ground cleaned and bonded all flanges two times I have 6 sets on the rear bumper :\
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Let me know the exact brand of adhesive you use to flange the bumper back together. I've tried the black 3m adhesive and also sikabond which seemed to be permanent on test pieces but for some reason it keeps falling off the bumper I think the sun might be doing it I'm not sure. Trying to avoid getting that stuff jets recommended because it's kind of expensive. Metal flanges on fiberglass by the way. I ground cleaned and bonded all flanges two times I have 6 sets on the rear bumper :\
Fiberglass flanges seems to work best without the issues you mentioned.
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it was just easier to get two metal angles and bolts them together
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Tallon, when I get to that point I will let you know, but my plan is to use fiberglass on the inside once everything is together. I don't plan on taking it back apart and I want to maintain a factory body line between the bumper and body ::beers...
Got another surprise in the mail yesterday ::toothy! Guess who it is from?! It is going to make the side scoops a BREZE to mount, they look like they will almost bolt up strait to the body with no modifications. No more warpage ::K I am still waiting on the rest of the parts to see exactly. I just cant say enough about John and the quality of his parts, Amazing just doesn't even describe how nice his products are ::headbang
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Drooling. I need those. Mine are warped so badly that I'm not sure they are worth fixing.
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Yup all g28s are, depending on price I might get some myself but there's so much other stuff I gotta buy lol definitely an easy way to go broke by replacing everything >_<
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I hear ya. I feel like replacing pretty much every part of the body, except the hood. It came out nice. Other than that... ::sad
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Mine are warped bad also as is everyone else's unless they have a John Watson body. As for price, I don't know what price he is getting out of the set, I did some trading and cash to get these. I called him this morning when I noticed everyone was interested in them and he told me he would get a price list together and let me know. I do know the rockers are going to be significantly cheaper then whole set do the the side scoops are made in 2 and 3 pieces and bonded together which evidently is very time consuming.
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I know what ill be doing tonight ::toothy
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You get to have all the fun :'(
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Pedro, Get to work ::tongue ... I only get to work on my car on Tuesday's, I just like to spread my pictures out through the week to make it look like I work on it everyday ::toothy
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Mail delivery! Side windows and rear LP640 hatch glass came in from Mark...!
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Removed the rear radiator support system for final welding...
(The radiator's bolt to the tabs on each side)
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Will you be doing an engine cover now that you have the clear engine lid? I really want to see how you mount the glass to the hatch.
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Will you be doing an engine cover now that you have the clear engine lid? I really want to see how you mount the glass to the hatch.
My plan is to use these as a templet to make some sheet metal or sheet aluminum ones and paint them black. My original plan was to use the ones I ordered and tint them however I just figured for the cost and the reliability of just having metal there it would be easier and stronger. Plus I don't want to put a engine cover on yet (maybe down the road)...
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So got my trading done with Batbuilder on the radio and wow! They look so much better then I ever expected, way better then the pictures show. All they need is a little filler in a couple spots and ready to mount and paint (minus mirror and mechanism still) BIG THANK YOU to Batbuilder ::beers
Dustin
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Oh LOOK LOOK what I got in the mail! ::toothy Again Johns parts speak for them self ::beers So tempted to sell my build and start over with one of his bodies ::counfused ::study
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It's like Christmas in August!
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nice ::headbang
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Oh LOOK LOOK what I got in the mail! ::toothy Again Johns parts speak for them self ::beers So tempted to sell my build and start over with one of his bodies ::counfused ::study
You are already using a lot of quality parts in your build, doing the body with Johns kit will really make it stand out. I'm sure you should be able to sell your current kit with no problems, I see several people looking for them. Just put it out there as a feeler and if it sells it sells. Won't hurt to try.
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Auto, the only thing that would hurt my sell, I really want to keep my interior to use in John's build. So I will prob just continue replacing parts as I can. I will end up with a G28/AD mut of some sort! ::tongue
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Got some work done on my exhaust last night, did some welding on the stainless exhaust and got it wrapped with turbo exhaust wrap (higher temp then normal wrap)
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Also started working the radiator and flow setup...
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Cant resist to show how well John's parts fit together! Cant wait to start mounting them ::toothy
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You won't have to worry about that radiator hose blowing out. :)
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You are showing some "mad skills" there my friend and I'm loving the quality of the build.
The way you're doing your radiators is another great example of how you can mount them on the rear of a Fiero frame and the way you're plumbing in the lines is pretty clean and straightforward.
Thanks for sharing,
Chris
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Some good ideas for me to copy ::thumbup
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Got my Lamborghini stickers in yesterday from Sam, even came with detailed instructions on where they go! Very nice, still need to get the window set and OEM type Vin plate from Peggyonthereunireland ::beers
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Radiator's and plumbing almost done.
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The radiator set up looks pretty strong, keep up the quality work.
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Stickers look good but one of the green unleaded stickers is misspelled.
Sorry!
All looks good! Keep it up!
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HAHA! I didn't even notice that....! ::scratch++
Sam where are ya?!?! I need another sticker ::beers
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LOL!!
I want a set
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Yea, he can even re-use the original Fiero pipes that are underneath the car.
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well those I wouldn't use, way too old, infact I removed them, and would replace with new ones if I had a 3rd rad up front.
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If you don't mind me asking in your thread, where did you get all the stickers/decals?
Thanks
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Hi Eddie, Thanks for the info, no fans came with my delsol rads, But Im using Hayden 14" fans that put out over 1700 cfm each, and it's been running cool, my car is totally driveable so ive been running it quite often.
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Got some work done last night. Installed my extended A-Arms, started on my radiator support brackets, removed the rear bumper and a few odds and ends.
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Really nice job. I especially love that diffuser. I wanted to build my own one but still haven't decide whether I'll go to that trouble. It is darn nice though.
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let that be proof that the labels are replicated and never duplicated = better quality. ::salute replacement on the way.
Hey Dustin, Looks great but howcome you are using heavy plumbing pipes? looks like it adds so much weight, just curious...
I used aluminum, it's lighter, dissipates heat and won't rust.
Sam, I was going to go with aluminum and when I looked locally I couldn't find any aluminum pipe. So I decided to go with that black pipe. Several reasons went into this, I wanted to use as many joints instead of clamps and hoses as possible, to eliminate leaks. I also wanted to be able to weld mounting brackets to the metal piping to keep them in place and for easy removal of the radiators in the future and the last thing I did is coat the inside of all the metal piping with red sealant (same used in gas tanks). I hope It all works as planned, I am still worried about heat distribution since the pipes are such a this gauge, If the radiators do there job it should be fine.
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Really nice job. I especially love that diffuser. I wanted to build my own one but still haven't decide whether I'll go to that trouble. It is darn nice though.
Thank you for the nice words, always wonder if i'm doing things right... That diffuser came on the car when I purchased it. If im correct all g28 and John's bodes come with it. Unless you have a g24?
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Got a box of gently used goodies off of a wrecked LP640. I still have another box on its way with a few major parts it will include a 5 button switch and surround, overhead console with sunglass holder, 2 more AC vents and seats.
Passenger grab handle:
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Driver knee pad
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Deployed air bag with surround
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OEM burnt throttle body (might be getting the other 3)
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Door and Window switches
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Random extra stuff, OEM, plates, books and pictures:
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They didn't have the chrome rings for the vents? ::scratch
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Evidently they are attached to the dash... They will have to be made same for all the window switches and other buttons on the switch panel (gonna be really fun)
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yeah I have chrome rings with my pontiac vents I'm not sure if they are the same size but they seem like they are, I don't know if I'll be happy with the actual vents because they're a little different
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Those look near identical to mine! Put a tape measure on them so I can compare. I might just sell my OEM ones and go with those since they have the ring.
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Here is the size of the OEM ones
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Here is the overhead console I have coming. Its defiantly not in the best shape but can be molded and fixed ::LAMBO
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Got my OEM Replica door hinges and door handles in yesterday from SchulzeA and I must say that is prob the best money ever spent! Packaging was fantastic everything was sealed in plastic, parts were perfect and shipping was fast! I cant wait to start working on my doors, latches and handles.
01lambiero, thank you for the measurements on the hinges that allowed SchulzeA to make the fantastic door hinges ::beers...
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That looks much better, this is what I currently have, so you are saying to go more at down angle? The last picture are my extended A-arms I had them extended 2 1/2 inches on each side so that leaves me with just enough room for the adapter to mount my wheels...
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You can see that the bottom of your strut is lower with your adapter. Were you intending to lower your chassis or did it end up ok? I suppose you could compensate by adjusting your coilovers up. I have seen these brackets made both ways but it seems to me that the holes should be horizontal (trapizoidal) rather than a square pattern. You could just try it out and if it works for you, run with it. I believe that Moser Axles can make just about any length center shafts if you can't come up with a suitable length for fit. Jim
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Im still working on the axle situation... I think I can have a machine shop do a little work with drilling the larger axle out and sliding the smaller axle in and do some welding and pipe sleeve and more welding. that will work until I can pull them out and have custom ones made at least I will have something to show them.
The way the rear adapter works right now it lowers the car about 1 1/2" to 2" (just guessing) the coil over is almost all the way up so, we will see when I do a test run on the chassis ::counfused
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Yes, that's what I mean. If you put a level on the head of your strut bolt, you can see how much lower the strut is. Better to have the strut in the oem position so that you can adjust your coils to your advantage. Jim
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Hey jim I will check into that soon, hate to back track just yet, forward progress is working right now! Soon I'll be going back and fixing stuff that isn't up to my liking and ill put that on my list of things to look at...
On another note, ordered my front bumper from John Watson and I just got a PM my headlight buckets and glass are on there way ::headbang
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Make out a list of things that may require rework and tape it to your bathroom mirror! ::sun Where is John Watson located? He sure turns out premium work. ::thumbup Jim
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He is located in Tennga, Georgia somewhere! He does some fantastic work, little to no body work required on his parts!
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Random parts in the mail....
OEM Seatbelt sliders & Washer lids
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shiny! I'm still waiting for my washer covers from john, I canceled cause I bought some from powerslave but they are g28 covers :S didn't know
Hope John stops being so busy :\
I also planned on getting the whole seat belt assembly eventually.
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Here are some borrowed batwing sides that arrived yesterday, just sitting there not mounted or anything... Fit really good ::toothy
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It's great that people will share parts. Hats off ::salute
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Sorry for no recent updates, there really hasnt been any to post up ::counfused. Just in the ::LAMBO2 parts collecting stages ::toothy Here are my OEM glass and headlight buckets that arrived
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Headlight trim (still contemplating on going with an aluminum set ::study)
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Burnt Murci parts I purchased ::toothy
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More burnt Murci parts I purchased ::toothy
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You should do a thread on putting those lights together. I'm interested to know how you will mount the lights to the buckets.
I need a set of the eyebrows, can you let me know where you got yours?
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Hey Auto ::wave I might do a thread on how I do mine. However without knowing how OEM does theres my way may be completely wrong ::counfused
The brows came with my build when I got it from JD, If i am not mistaken they might have came from Murci-me or Jetts not sure though. I also think they might be to short however I cant find a good picture of a OEM headlight to tell yet ::study
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Headlight trim (still contemplating on going with an aluminum set ::study)
Are the light trim rings oem...replica? Would you mind providing measurements for them, I have access to a cnc and I may be able to run a set.
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where did you get those buckets and rings please?
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where did you get those buckets and rings please?
I ordered them from member bierhanzel (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?action=profile;u=56 (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?action=profile;u=56)) They are great quality well worth the money and wait to get them here, they will be a nice addition to the build way better then the plexi flat ones that come with most bodies..
@ KLP light rings are replica, I have no problem sending measurements. I dont have them with me but I will post them soon. I know SchulzeA has perfect measurements...
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The headlight brows come with the g28 kit from cki or whoever, it's just that they are usually in bad shape. Mine are unusable. Easily the worst part that comes with the kit ::sad
Are you getting anyone to replica those button rings? :D That would be cool, they look simple enough.
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Well before anyone thinks I've given up and haven't been working on the car lately. Your about 1/2 right ::toothy The paddle setup has taken a few weeks and is now almost completed other then mounting switches. I got one of my temporary axles back yesterday and installed it ::headbang one more to go then ill be cruizen the drive way ::rocker
Incase you were wondering about the paddle shift setup here is the link to the thread http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=232.0 (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=232.0)
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Here is a secret I promised not to tell ::toothy this is something a certain "friend" has been working on. This is an EXACT replica of the OEM passenger grab handle, same epoxy foam as OEM uses everything perfect exact match. These can be mounted same as OEM, covered or Carbon Fiber coated whatever ::beers very nice pice of work he has done! As you can tell LOTS of time and work has gone into making the mold for these... Enjoy the pictures and don't tell anyone especially the D guy that made them ::thumbup
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then 2, then 3, then ?!!! ::toothy
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exactly the same dimensions, the Polish car "FSO Polonez"
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Very nice. I got my paypal ready!
I need paddles as well.
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bonnet hinges from honda prelude BOOT HINGES
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Very nice. I got my paypal ready!
I need paddles as well.
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Very nice. I got my paypal ready!
I need paddles as well.
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The paddles are on there way to SchulzeA! He should have them at Saturday or Monday, shoot him a pm and he should be able to get you some pricing once he looks at them. ::beers
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Finally got my axles in and front brakes working ::thumbup I couldn't wait long enough to get my back brakes working ::duh without giving it a test drive around the yard and down the driveway ::beers Happy to say the drive was a success; shifter setup worked great, motor, supercharger, tranny, fans everything seemed to work fine! I did notice my idler pulley is not in line with the rest of the pulleys so my belt was getting chewed up. As I do on all my first test drives I did a little burnout to test strengths and weaknesses and glad to say it passed nothing messed up other then once the 13" tires got a little hot the front tires couldn't hold the chassis in place, so it turned into a rolling burnout ::tongue!
Notice my lovely exhaust ::K
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WOW ::thumbup ::thumbup ::thumbup
You are doing some great work there, you will have your car finished in no time now.
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Great to know it works well :)
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Another evening of working. Got my shift points correct on my paddle shift E-Gear setup, started cutting my rear hatch to duplicate the LP640 one, started making a few fender mounts and made a set of rear inner fenders to keep debris out of the radiator and last drove the car around, good thing it no rubbing front or rear from the tires bad thing front bumper rubs everything, time for some air ride next ::toothy
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Oh ya got a OEM Murci muffler and 2 sets of Gallardo mufflers with connecting pipes and actuators! Gotta pick them up when I go see John Watson next week ::beers
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The OEM muffler should help out with the sound tremendously.
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I’m really interested to see how the OEM muffler works out for you. Make sure that you post a video so we can see what it sounds like. I see them from time to time on ebay and some go for pretty cheap, this might be a good option to the Borla exhaust.
Your car is looking real good bet you are excited to see it come to life.
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Your cars looking good! Can't wait to hear that sound too.
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Looks awesome. Stance is perfect IMO
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Thanks for the nice words everyone! Next time I will post a picture of the car it will have a new front bumper and side skirts with scoops from John!
And on the OEM Mufflers I got a SMOKIN deal on them, that is the reason in getting 1 OEM Murci muffler and 2 sets of the Gallardo mufflers ::tongue. I will prob be selling either the OEM Murci muffler or one set of the Gallardo mufflers Depending on what fits better ::thumbup
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What do you expect the sound to be like with the OEM muffler? I really want to see how this comes out.
Your car already looks awesome the way it is I can imagine how it will look once you get John's parts on there ::headbang
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What do you expect the sound to be like with the OEM muffler? I really want to see how this comes out.
Your car already looks awesome the way it is I can imagine how it will look once you get John's parts on there ::headbang
I am hoping that it will be quiet until high RPM's than have the raspy high pitched sound (obviously not as raspy as the V12) but enough to sound kind of tough. Either way it is going on there whether it sounds like crap or not ::tongue But I will post up videos, I know one member has done this however it was on a V8 and I dont know if he has ever started his car yet so it will be interesting to say the least!
I really cant wait to get all the body parts on, the doors hinged and body permanently mounted. Thats when all the fun body work and tedious things start to happen and come together
Your suspension is looking FANTASTIC BTW. One day I would like to do that and get Johns complete kit
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Here's some of your parts I have been working on. Slowly but surely! Picture 2 shows your oem ring on the left. Also notice in the last picture that I have made the 2 part Egear plate into one piece. It still needs some work but coming along nice.
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What do you expect the sound to be like with the OEM muffler? I really want to see how this comes out.
Your car already looks awesome the way it is I can imagine how it will look once you get John's parts on there ::headbang
I do have a oem Murcie muffler with 3.8 s/c and Mustang 3.8 headers. at idle it's very quiet when revs up over 1500, it gets loud. but not like the real car.
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Wow RINGS :D awesome
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Maaaaannn, this build looks clean!! Great job so far!! ::sun
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I forgot to add that these parts wouldn't be possible if Dustin hadn't found some oem parts to copy. He's been adamant about copying parts so everyone can have access to hard to find or over priced items. So give him a hand as I produce more parts
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Thanks for the comments! As Schulze said my goal is to try to get all my OEM parts duplicated so everyone can have access to them at a decent price. I don't have the skills or tools to do most of the duplicating so I have had to out source to people like Schulze and Frank to do the work. I really hope that we can get the parts out to members on the forum so everyone can have a more perfect OEM type interior ::beers So really the BIG thanks it the those guys ::salute
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certain people don't agree with raising the bar but has to be done :D
can't wait for these parts
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Got my inner hood in from Bartman, very nice piece! Super happy with the quality and fitment ::beers
On another note I will be leaving in a couple hours to make my 2,000 mile 30 something hour journey to Summerfield North Carolina (pick up Murci and Gallardo mufflers), down to Tennga, Georgia (to visit John Watson and pick up parts) then home! So, I will catch everyone on another day!
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Made it home finally! Here are a few pictures from my trip they are relevant to my build because I had to see all of this to get my parts! HAHA
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Here is what I came back with!
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Here is a short video of how great Johns parts are...
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Hey Dustin,
I already made some of the parts, Here is an old post from a year ago... Exact replica of OEM:
http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/mall/15172-lambo-murci-replica-e-gear-shifter-plate-buttons.html (http://www.madmechanics.com/forum/mall/15172-lambo-murci-replica-e-gear-shifter-plate-buttons.html)
CCIE
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Welcome back. Looks like I bought a pair of Gallardo mufflers from the same guy. wish I would have known I could have saved some shipping$$$. The parts look nice, John's work is awesome.
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I knew it was you! I almost called to make sure...! He told me some guy out of Texas bought them... Small world
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Nice, the oem bumper looks much different than the G28's
I don't even know how the grills are able to fit in the g28
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Are you going to sell the old muffler (with the turn down tip)? I'd like to have it for my build ::beers
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Nope sorry Schultze that's goin on my replica to my replica go cart it's, 100% replica ::tongue
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This looked really familiar! ::toothy
Here is what I came back with!
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With everything going on around the holidays here, not getting much work accomplished. Here are a few things I have been slowly working on. I talked to Batbuilder and asked if he minded if I borrowed his idea for the front spoiler/bumper protection so I had this made. Also made the door/dash/body mount still needs to be framed and finished welded up.
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One of the best builds out there :) :) :) :) :) :)
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Thank you sir ::beers I cant wait until I am as far along as you are, though :'(
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2 and a half years i have been at my Lambo its around 90% complete so i am glad its been a long road building it you will get there keep at it mate
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Made a little progress over the last week or so. Little more work on the chassis getting ready for the doors. Still lots more work to do on the chassis before I am happy with strength of using the Fiero tub...
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And finally I am happy to report that the new bumper is almost a direct replacement to the old Nose up G28 bumper! It was just cut and install with very minimal glass work needed. I did all of this from cutting the old bumper off the mocking the new one up in less then 30 min, the gap on the hood will need to be slightly redone and mounting flanges will need to be made on the fenders. The rockers are another story they will need some attention, not really to bad but they wont mount on the top of the kick panel like OEM (they will sit to high).
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The front bumper looks great and rumor had it that the front and rear bumpers on a G28 were modeled around OEM parts and this at least verifies it for the front. Are you trying one of John's rear bumpers as well (I noticed yours is off the car).
I figured that the rockers would require a little more attention than the bumper since the G28 rockers were formed in the style of OEM but not a exact as the front bumper. Please keep the pictures coming as I'll be taking this on (hopefully) this summer.
Thanks,
Chris
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Bull no need to wait on this, it was one of the fastest most simple things I have done... Not kidding all this took me less then 30 minutes. Now it will take me longer to get the mounting tabs made but other then that very easy and straight forward. Ill show where I cut it later, evidently it was in a pretty good spot. I didn't have to cut twice! ::toothy
And NO I didn't get a rear bumper I sure wish I had at this point I sure think it will fit...
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Looks great :)
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Just FYI, the OE bumper will fit the G28 bodies with no problems.
I too had replaced my G28 front bumper with an OEM (fiberglass), and the modifications to the fenders to accept it were minimal. Now its been cut up and reworked to become a 670 lol!
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Just FYI, the OE bumper will fit the G28 bodies with no problems.
I too had replaced my G28 front bumper with an OEM (fiberglass), and the modifications to the fenders to accept it were minimal. Now its been cut up and reworked to become a 670 lol!
Mike, do you know if a rear OEM bumper can be made to fit a G28 with slight modifications?
Thanks,
Chris
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Looks good! And the side skirts are staight, Nice.
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Just FYI, the OE bumper will fit the G28 bodies with no problems.
I too had replaced my G28 front bumper with an OEM (fiberglass), and the modifications to the fenders to accept it were minimal. Now its been cut up and reworked to become a 670 lol!
Mike, do you know if a rear OEM bumper can be made to fit a G28 with slight modifications?
Thanks,
Chris
Yes, the OE rear bumper will fit the G28 bodies. The modifications are mostly to get the G28 rear wheel openings to line up with the bumper, not to bad though.
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Awesome
if I ever get to Johns I'd pick up both bumpers
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Awesome
if I ever get to Johns I'd pick up both bumpers
Make sure to lift with your legs or have a friend help. Picking up 2 bumpers at the same time could be kinda heavy. ::tongue
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More worried about how they're gonna fit in the car to get them home :-[
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Awesome
if I ever get to Johns I'd pick up both bumpers
Make sure to lift with your legs or have a friend help. Picking up 2 bumpers at the same time could be kinda heavy. ::tongue
WTF??? Always lift with your BACK, not your legs!
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Awesome
if I ever get to Johns I'd pick up both bumpers
Make sure to lift with your legs or have a friend help. Picking up 2 bumpers at the same time could be kinda heavy. ::tongue
WTF??? Always lift with your BACK, not your legs!
My wife is a Chiropractor... Maybe she's mixed up because that's what she tells me. ::duh
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At 15 pounds per bumper.. does it really matter? I think this was part of the joke ::tongue
I'm really thinking about trying one of John's rear bumpers. Now is the time to do it and since I'm wanting to separate these panels anyhow, this can actually make everything a little easier and I end up with a quality panel that in a place on the car where it's really needed. Once everything ha been modified to accept a OEM style panel, future replacement due to damage becomes very easy and there are a lot more sources for parts. Maybe not for everyone and certainly a "cost upper" and small delay in the build, but well worth it for me as I intend on keeping my car for a long time.
Chris
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the G28 rear bumper is 1.5" give or take a 1/4" to long on the sides , so 2 choices are available ,either cut the rear wheel well opening in the top middle to add 1.5" there an behind the rear wheelwell opening remove 1.5" an glass it back together ...not 100% sure if the angle of the body line where it bolt back to the rear Quarters will need changing but if you make it this far the rest is easy. Other option is to move the whole wheel well opening back 1.5" ,this will require modifying the VERY rear section of the drivers side an passenger side scoops
please photo shop guys Read this 3 times an make us a photo drawing example of the side of the G28
Maybe AD John will let you get a Rear bumper at material cost to do this an if it look like a easy fix , he can sell more rear bumpers ,who ever do this will be The first to render a solution to the oversized G28 rear bumper .....waiting on the forum photo shop person to make us a drawing with both options.
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I'm confused??? Legs....Back..... To be truthful, I've never looked to see how my wife lifted both bumpers! ::thumbup
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Im still undecided what exactly I am going to do with the rear bumper... I would love to get a OEM one from John or Jay I'm just worried about shipping it. So anyway if I do decide to go that route I will do a write up thread and "how to" so everyone knows the way I did mine...
Back to work on the car last night and finally got the paddle shifter 100% done! I went back and ordered a faster actuator and moved the pivot point in so it would shift faster and well it works well very fast!!!
Started to work on the windshield A-pillar support and reconstructing the whole upper area where the windshield will glue in down the road. Here are some pictures...
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Here is the modified upper windshield mount and a few other pictures. The tubing I used is 1" and fit very snug, pretty much perfect in the A-pillar area
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And last here is the E-gear plate SchulzeA built for me out of aluminum! I cant say how perfect this piece is, he does some FANTASTIC work (The one with the pits in it is the original one)
The last picture shows how thick this body is for anybody wondering. Lots of flaws in it but weak isn't one of them.
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Did you correct the differences in length between the two A pillars? My right pillar was almost an inch longer than the left. Was there a difference in yours?
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There was a 1/4 inch difference between both A-pillars, the passenger side was slightly longer. My A-pillar mounts are exact length so I just trimmed 1/4 in off of the top of the passenger A-pillar to allow the top so sit correct.
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Has anyone (other than me) thought about separating the windshield panel (pillars, front cowl and front door sills) from the one piece G28 bodies and bonding this in place to the windshield pillar frame? My rational for this would be that the stiffer and more integrated this panel is with the frame, the less chance of cracking a windshield (very common on the G28's) and the other body sections can be removed or allowed to shift around slightly without affecting this section. I really think it would make for a more solid foundation (less noise and easier to maintain down the road) and the fenders could be removed without lifting off the entire body (awesome for door hinge adjustment or panel repair / replacement). This is a little easier decision for me since I'm using a Watson front bumper and rockers because everything is nearly separated up front any how (only the windshield surround and fenders are left attached so why not separate them?). If you look how nearly any production car is built, the roof and windshield frame are part of the unibody structure. When you leave it all one piece, body twist, expansion, vibration or shock can be transmitted to the windshield and the glass loses the battle. :)
Thoughts?
Chris
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Bull Ive been cutting many sections out of my car along the way in an attempt to make it easier down the road to access different areas, ive been tossing around doing the fenders since the top of them have to be cut anyway to fit the windshield all I would need to do is put better bracing and mounting flanges. I haven't done much on the back of the car to see if I can make the whole rear quarters removable yet, however it sure would be nice ::beers
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Bull Ive been cutting many sections out of my car along the way in an attempt to make it easier down the road to access different areas, ive been tossing around doing the fenders since the top of them have to be cut anyway to fit the windshield all I would need to do is put better bracing and mounting flanges. I haven't done much on the back of the car to see if I can make the whole rear quarters removable yet, however it sure would be nice ::beers
My advice to you if you are going to start separating panels like the fenders is to get everything sitting on the car where you want it as a one piece body, build out your brackets and mounting locations and tack them into place as well as bond any brackets to the backside of the panels. When everything is secured, cut the panels apart. You can go back and finish all the mounting points (welds and paint) and bolt your panels up and use these panels as your reference points for aligning everything else up.
Chris
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It would be cool to replicate the pillars out of metal and weld them to the chassis, doesn't seem like it would be hard to do. Lot more fun than messing with fiberglass!
Maybe form them to shape the glass before putting them on?
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I think the only G28's that get cracked windshields are the ones that have had the windshields trimmed to fit, allowing many places for cracks to start around the edge. I didnt want to trim my windshield for this reason, so I came up with the slotting of the fenders to allow the windshield to slip under and not crack. I also did it to my friends Murcie, and he has been in several front end collisions (1 major one) and the windshield has not cracked yet (even though he went under the minivan in front of him and had the vans right rear tire sitting on top of his left fender). Once the windshield is bonded down, it adds alot of rigidity to the A pillar frame structure.
I drove my car once without hte windshield in place, and everything there was racking over every bump. Once I put the windshield in and bonded it down, it became as stiff as a board (maple, maybe even oak) and has never moved since.
I think what you want to do wont hurt, but from experience I can tell you its not necessary. ::wave
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Not much going on lately, by me. Just finished the A-pillar support and upper windshield mounting flange also cut the holes for the headlight buckets,yes I know they are in upside down ::duh) I didn't have any way of holding them in for the picture. Im also waiting on parts and front springs.
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Here are some of the parts being mad that I have been working on... SHHH, don't tell Frank I posted them ::tongue
This stuff is all 3D printed, Last 3 photos are of the overhead sunglass console being reworked...
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Here is more secrets... Side scoop piece in CF
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Another, OEM Carbon Fiber passenger grab handle being made... AGAIN I am not taking credit for this stuff, I clearly do not have the skills to do this (YET ::toothy). This is being done by a friend for me, but it is a secret cant tell him I posted them...
Last picture is my console switch rings and 5 button switch rings going out in the mail, curtsy of my good buddy Schulze
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Where do I sign up for one of those grab handles and side scoops in carbon fiber.. how much and how long of a wait? ::toothy
Chris
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Nice parts!!! I want on this waiting list as well. ;)
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NICE PARTS!!! Put me down for all those parts.... lol No but seriously put me down for all those parts..
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Rings finally made! Nice
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More trim rings ::headbang I think that's all of them.
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More stuff being done ::bounce I had to slightly trim the fenders to get the front bumper to sit correctly with the headlight lenses, washer brows, and hood.
I also talked to Batbuilder and asked if he minded if I borrowed his idea for the steel front defuser. Im all bout protecting my "gem" front bumper. I know it seems heavy however if you have seen the weight I have trimmed off all of these OEM parts that I have had reproduced, its just a drop in the bucket for weight issues
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Here is a better shot of how the headlight glass fits with the washer covers, the bumper and hood
Also here is the overhead sunglasses/map light holder. This was actually improved upon form the factory crappy unit that was just ABS covered in leather. The new unit will be the same foam material as the grab handle, dash and console. I will get a picture by this weekend of how it will look covered.
The last 2 pictures is of the reproduction driver knee pad that just got covered and the final finnish of the Carbon fiber grab handle and driver side chip that mounts to the side scoop
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And finally some SchulzeA parts! LOOK AT THAT absolutely pure sex appeal, cant wait to see it mounted with buttons on my Carbon Fiber console switch plate ::bounce
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WOW!!! Nice.. It's coming together nicely. ::thumbup
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wow I wouldn't even coat the egear plate and ring with anything, too nice
..make buttons to match
I take it your tires held air all this time
my rears didn't :( and there's not even engine weight in the chassis
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Agreed Alan and Frank do some fantastic work ::beers
Ya mine have held air this whole time! Even doing the occasional burnout in the driveway! The tires need to be replaced but, that might happen down the road. Im going to get another set of wheels after the build is near complete.
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the inside bumper frame is real nice ,great job on the details
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Tallon, it may simply be the valve stems. Splash some soapy water on them and around the tire bead.
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That will be my next project when I get the time!
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Here is a few random pictures of some small progress. I was just messing around and decided to work on my LP640 engine hatch I have the OEM replica plexi or lexan glass from Mark however I just wanted to go with a solid back instead of seeing through. So I went this route, it is super strong and not near as heavy as you think. I still need to make the inner sides and do lots more finishing work but this should work just fine, The only thing I might consider is making them out of sheet aluminum instead of steel.
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Here are a few random pictures of the switch plate with the new trim rings in place, the muffler I have decided to go with (I think ::scratch ) and pulled it outside to do some work in the warm ::sun
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Arr that looks mighty good ::pirate
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hello mr chaos would you be able to put together a interior bundle for me for all the carbon fiber,buttons,with the shrouds,and e-gear man i have to have those way to nice also all the stickers and murci info plate pretty much all the stuff you used lol please let me know what you can do for me thanks man
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where did you get your mirror switch trim ring from?
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hello mr chaos would you be able to put together a interior bundle for me for all the carbon fiber,buttons,with the shrouds,and e-gear man i have to have those way to nice also all the stickers and murci info plate pretty much all the stuff you used lol please let me know what you can do for me thanks man
Sending PM in regard to your qusetions...
where did you get your mirror switch trim ring from?
I had a friend mill it for me. Im not sure if he will do anymore at this point or not. Ill see if he will and what he will charge.
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It is with deep regret that I am tossing around the idea of selling my project. I would love to finnish it however life is pulling me in another direction right now. If I do decide to sell the car the full interior will not be included in the sale, it will be missing the center console, arm rest, and various other interior parts that are seen in this thread. The car does run and drive with the built SC3800 V6 with full paddle shift setup, body is very close to be permanently mounted (prob could now depending on bracing). Wide track front and rear suspension, custom axles, all OEM grills, bumpers, side skirts, lexan windows, 1/4 windows, LP640 engine hatch glass, LP640 taillights, OEM Murci Wheels, 13" Viper cross drilled and slotted rotor conversion. Just way to much to list, read the build if you have any questions or shoot me a PM. I will separate parts off the car to make the price right for a buyer. Ill sell everything I have for $17,000 OBO or if a person just wants the body, motor, tires and wheels (basically a rolling running car minus the OEM and AD Watson parts) ill sell it for $12,500. For any questions shoot me a PM. I have well over $30,000 invested in this car.
Dustin
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Sad to hear man
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That is a great price sorry to hear you are selling, wish it would have been for sale a few months ago, would have bought in a min.
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I totally agree that $17k is an "AWESOME" price and if I was looking to get into a project, I wouldn't think twice about buying yours.
Sorry to see you thinking about selling her, but there are other and more important things in life that come first and you can always start another build later on.
Chris
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Wow my friend :'( I really can't believe your going to sell it.
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That is very unfortunate , can the doors be mounted on before sale?
I might have 17k to spare ^^
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That is very unfortunate , can the doors be mounted on before sale?
I might have 17k to spare ^^
Good mornin Transcend, I can frame and mount the inner doors before the sale. The only reason that I haven't done this yet is I was hoping to wait until the body was permanently attached so there wouldn't be any adjustment needed and I wouldn't mount the outer door to the inner door for 2 reasons; First would be for windows and regulators mounted and second would be for the same reason above, I wouldn't want to trim the door and take a chance on the body being moved 1/4 in one way or another. It should be 100 percent where it will sit however I was going to make a few more braces for the passenger and driver rockers and the back 1/4 area of the body. Again I have no problem framing mounting the inner door and latches, there should be some small adjustment in the hinges if the body needs moved slightly.
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Thanks for all of the replies, I consider all of you my my friends and have helped me through this build and especially early in my build, thank you! Just a little bit of whats going on for the members that haven't PM'd me. I just don't have the time to work on the car as much as I would like, the last 6 to 8 months I have worked on it 1 day a week 6 hours a day and it is getting hard to get things done in that amount of time. I'm just dead set on making it so accurate that it is making me silly in the head ::duh As it is I have nearly every part to finnish the whole car and in most cases I have 2 of some parts (everyone knows I cant resist a good deal on parts). So with all of this being said, when I have time I will continue to slowly build on the car until I sell it and hopefully in a year or so I will have more time to start another build. This will give some new members a chance to get a good car with a great start, that I can hopefully watch on a build thread on the site. If it doesn't sell then no worries I don't owe any money on it and it is sitting under the cover and I can slowly work on it as time permits, Thanks again to everyone on the site you guys are all like my extended family ::beers
Dustin
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That seems like a better idea, just keep it for a while. It will be worth more in the end
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Well with all the interest people have shown in the build nobody has came up with the money ::zzzzz Oh well continuing on ::headbang.
I got some stuff in the mail yesterday. Starting my OEM engine cover soon just need 1 more intake plenum finally have all my throttle bodies (minus 1, on its way). They are off of a 2008 LP640.
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Started framing both my inner doors and working on hinges. I would have had both mostly done last night except I ran out of wire >:( I dont think they are as hard as everyone has talked about at this point (hell all this only took me 4 hours). Several problems I do see are the tops of the doors want to bow out real bad so stress cuts will be a MUST and getting the inner door trimmed to where it meets with the outer door will be the most difficult part I believe.
There is still lots of finishing work that will need to be done on both doors but this is all I could get done last night since my MIG ran out of wire.
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Here are the rest of the pictures that wouldn't attach to the last post. ::beers
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Oh my lord, the driver door brings back nightmares ::help. Keep on pushing on!
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don't be quitting now ::salute ur strength gives us strength ::headbang
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Oh my lord, the driver door brings back nightmares ::help. Keep on pushing on!
don't be quitting now ::salute ur strength gives us strength ::headbang
Thanks! Its feels pretty good to get back to work on the car. Its going to be a little slower then normal for a while on the build and no more OEM parts from here on out. Gotta get the budget under control >:(
I stuck some parts on just to get a quick visual of how things are going to line up. Just as I thought the inner door is going to need trimmed several inches to fit the contour of the outer door.
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Slowly slaving away ::bounce... Got about 6 hours this weekend to do some trimming and see how the outer door will fit and if my shock will be strong enough to lift the complete structure minus window regulator & window. Also gave it its first bath ::tongue, fiberglass dust was starting to build up everywhere ::sun
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Here are a few more attachments that wouldn't fit on the last post.... ::salute
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Here is a picture of the AD Watson rocker and assembled LP640 AD Watson side scoop with the CF chip that I got in the mail saturday ::bounce ::beers I also got the CF grab handle, dash overlay and a coulpe other things. I thought that I had pictures of the rest but I must have deleted them or something ::duh ::scratch Ill take more, the stuff looks fantastic! can't wait to get the console back so I can set my seats where they need to go ::headbang
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very nice progress, parts look great
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It looks great! You should be proud. ::beers
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It looks great! You should be proud. ::beers
very nice progress, parts look great
Thanks guys feels good to be making progress again... Thanks everyone for the push to keep goin! I think everone needs it if they are stalling.... ::beers
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Got come Carbon Fiber parts in the mail over the weekend and finally got a few pictures. These parts have a static barrier like a magnet to metal! If there is any dust within 3 foot of the carbon pieces it will find the CF pieces. The only picture I took they are covered in dust.
I also started messing with my tail lights yesterday. I went to the salvage and got about 10 automotive waterproof wire connectors.
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Got all the tail light openings trimmed and the mounts made for the lights last night. Just need to get the new pigtails soldered and heat shirked so everything will plug in ::headbang.
Next few weeks will be making a few more body mounts and permanently attaching the body to the chassis (after fulling painting the chassis to prevent corrosion) then continue on the doors, etc.
Dustin
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Are your carbon fiber pieces overlays? They look great either way and it seems to line up pretty well to your dash. How about the gauge face where did you get that? Looks much better than some of others I have seen. On others you can see all of the symbols on the face even if they are not illuminated. I am really happy that you are making good progress on your car now bro!
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Thanks Auto! The gauge face it just a photocopy that Digibem sent me of his original. Its for a Murci not the LP640 it will work until I can find an original. Some of the the CF is overlays over the original part the "chips" for the scoops aren't. When I say "overlay" it is still actual carbon fiber not a water dip or anything like that.
Thanks again for the support. I have had all of this stuff for 6 months or longer I just haven't installed it. So I haven't had to spend any money on anything. It feels good to have all this stuff installed, I don't feel like I am letting all the parts just sit and collect dust. Plus it is making the car look more complete which is also helping my motivation on continuing ::beers
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Lights look awesome on there
Will you be able to easily adapt the passenger side dash cover to the grab handle?
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Wow it's looking great !! Thanks for the update pics
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Tallon & Tusabes thank you for the support, I prob would have given up long ago if it wasnt for everyone here ::headbang
Here is the closest comparison I could come up with from the original to mine... I really whish I could get the tint off the lower turn signal and parking light's ::counfused
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Got the new automotive waterproof plugs soldered and heat shrieked, other end ready for the car. Here is a very good kink if you are going to run OEM LP640 lights: http://www.safeer.us/?p=239 (http://www.safeer.us/?p=239) shows the color of each wire on the OEM tail lights and this link (thanks No Bull) show the wiring of the fireo: http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=3.0 (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=3.0)
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Got lights wired. Still need to run a brake line back, at least they work and are mounted one lees thing to do ::tongue
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Didn't get much done last night. Messed with my AD Watson side rocker and scoop and for all of you using the AD pieces, they fit together like a puzzle, almost perfect ::toothy I just put the pieces in place and screwed them together using factory holes ::headbang. I just can't say enough about the AD parts hope he gets caught up soon :'(
I cut a 5' x 12" piece of 16 gauge steel that slides under the rocker and will mount to the chassis everything fits nearly flawless. The only downside is whoever trimmed my body trimmed to much off >:( so when you order your body make sure to not have them trimmed.
Sorry for the bad pictures they were taken on my cell phone in low light. I will get up some better pictures next week. ::salute
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Here are some pictures of how it fits on the car ::beers
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Here is a quick "How I did it" on my AD rockers and as you can see they worked out pretty good.
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More pictures from the driver side
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This is the passenger side done the same way as the driver side.
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Looks good. Are you going to have functional windows?
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I havent decided yet. I think I am going to get everything done, roughed in an painted then go back down the road, fix and update the small things like any squeaks, rattles or issues and havent decided on if the windows will be included in that category or not. I am really happy with the windows LamboJayso found I really want to try to make them work. So windows are kind of up in the air for me right now
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I understand. You must have removable ext. door skins then? It would be a b!tch or next to impossible to add windows later if the ext door skins werent removable. This is a great build good to see you got some motivation back.
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Panels look excellent together
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Got lights wired. Still need to run a brake line back, at least they work and are mounted one lees thing to do ::tongue
Is there a place to buy replica Murci tail lamps?
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Oh my lord, the driver door brings back nightmares ::help. Keep on pushing on!
don't be quitting now ::salute ur strength gives us strength ::headbang
Cool pics!
Thanks! Its feels pretty good to get back to work on the car. Its going to be a little slower then normal for a while on the build and no more OEM parts from here on out. Gotta get the budget under control >:(
I stuck some parts on just to get a quick visual of how things are going to line up. Just as I thought the inner door is going to need trimmed several inches to fit the contour of the outer door.
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Little progress this week... Trimmed my wheel well openings to OE Murci, fixed some areas that had been trimmed to much from the previous owner, had an exhaust heat shield made and started working on the rear bumper and getting it pre fit with grills.
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Fixing the gap above the side rockers that someone trimmed off 2" too much.
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This is heat shield I made and bent out of 14 gauge plate steel. This serves 2 purposes; one keeps the exhaust gas heat from warping the deck lid and two it will bolt to the bumper behind the center grill giving it extra support.
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Last is test fitting my rear grills before making mounting points. The rest of the pictures are just random. I know how everybody likes pictures ::rocker
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It's coming! You resolved the door/fender clearance issue?
-Jayso
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No not yet, got to figure out another issue right now. Seems the body line on the door doesnt go down far enough to meet up with the body line on the body... (SEE PICTURES) Might have to section the door or remake the body line on the door to match the new body line on the body...
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Yup, you're going to have to cut the door in half horizontally. Welcome to doing bodywork on a G28.
-Jayso
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No not yet, got to figure out another issue right now. Seems the body line on the door doesnt go down far enough to meet up with the body line on the body... (SEE PICTURES) Might have to section the door or remake the body line on the door to match the new body line on the body...
You could also section the scoop and make it tall enough to come up to the body line. I don't think it would be that noticable by anyone looking at it.
Chris
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Last night I tried to see how many tasks I could start and not finnish ::tongue So I started off working on the rear hatch using pictures of one on ebay as a guide (yellow one in pictures). I laid up some glass on the engine cover then removed all the metal that was in previous pictures, trimmed the access fiberglass off close to the OEM picture I had and slid the lexan in place.
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Next, I moved the gas filler from the passenger to the driver side and worked on the batwings getting them to tuck into the body. Im getting anxious to get them working ::headbang
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Last I trimmed off the piece of metal I made to support the front bumper. I wasn't happy seeing it stick out further then the bumper even though it had a purpose. It is still there and completely supports the front bumper its just not seen as well.
The first few pictures are before and the last are after...
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To sum up the night, I got lots accomplished still a long way to go. Batwings still need the sides modified to be more OEM type (front side needs to be straight not an angle) and mounting points for functionality plus body work. Rear hatch still needs lots of finish body work, found a place to get real tempered glass made in place of the lexan for $130 bucks and last the fuel door still needs mounted hinged and fuel neck ran to it.
I cant wait to be doing things for the last time on this car unfortunately everything has to come back off to permanitly mount the chassis to body then if everything still lines up mount everything again and months of bodywork to follow.
I leave you with this "There is always light at the end of the tunnel its just how good your sight is to see it"
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...found a place to get real tempered glass made in place of the lexan for $130 bucks
Looks good!
Are you talking about the engine cover louver glass? I would be interested to know who you found to make them. Are they local to you? The price doesn't sound bad to me.
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Next, I moved the gas filler from the passenger to the driver side and worked on the batwings getting them to tuck into the body. Im getting anxious to get them working ::headbang
I took your batwing motors to UPS this morning, I'll p.m. you the tracking information later on today.
I must say that every time you do something to your car it just keeps getting better and better, just keep it up even if the light at the end of the tunnel is faint right now, as you get closer it will get brighter.
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Are you talking about the engine cover louver glass? I would be interested to know who you found to make them. Are they local to you? The price doesn't sound bad to me.
Yes, the engine cover glass. A local glass shop has always made tempered flat glass for my older projects. Couple weeks ago they made the windshield for the 2" chopped model A I was building for $70 bucks. Side window in my 57 Chevy were $30 dollars a piece. All I needed was a templet and MUST BE FLAT not curved (so no door glass). I am also going to have them do my back window while they are doing the engine cover glass.
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I was messing around and think I have decided to scrap this other complete Fiero I bought a while back since next time I will go with a custom chassis and noticed something interesting ::toothy... Behind the back glass of the Fireo on each side of the engine cover there are 2 access panels, one is for the battery and one is for the air cleaner. If you flip them over there is some wire mesh type stuff, if you pop the little clips out you have what looks like the Murcielago grill mesh for the passenger side scoop and both air intakes behind each quarter glass. Here are some pictures of what I am talking about. This if for all of you that don't want to fork over $125.00 for the 2 tiny, pressed grills that go behind the 1/4 glass and the $200 grills that go in the passenger scoop
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Random progress and pictures, dry fitting the driver door, body and rocker mount pictures and inner hood trimmed.
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That inner hood looks really good, you guys made a wise choice in getting those. Things like that really make a car look like a car and not a kit car. ::thumbup
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Nice inner-hood ::beers
btw did you make a rout for water which leaks in around the hood to escape.
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Man, your work is looking exceptional. Keeps me motivated! I really love what your doing with it.
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Thanks everyone for the comments... Wish I didn't have to completely dissemble it again for final welds, paint and mount the chassis to the body...
MD you still needing those wheel measurements? I'm in the shop right now
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Looks so nice. Thank you for the pictures :)
Mind if I steal your inner hood idea? I agree it looks so much nicer and less "kit". Plus should strengthen it and allow easier latch/hinge mounting.
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Looks so nice. Thank you for the pictures :)
Mind if I steal your inner hood idea? I agree it looks so much nicer and less "kit". Plus should strengthen it and allow easier latch/hinge mounting.
Bartman made these for the G28 hoods which are about 2" longer than an OEM hood. He took a splashed panel and stretched it out so it fits our cars and I think he did an awesome job.
Here is the thread on them, http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=99.0 (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=99.0)
If you like the inner hood panel, check out my roadster engine cover http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=235.0 (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=235.0)
I don't know if he's still selling the inner hood panel but it might be worth asking him.
Chris
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I really like these inner panels too. They look terrific! I wonder if I could just trim it back further for an OEM hood?
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I really like these inner panels too. They look terrific! I wonder if I could just trim it back further for an OEM hood?
He has the molds to make a standard sized OEM version also.
Chris
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Nice! :) I wonder what he is charging these days?
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Can you tell me what site (www address) location you are referring to? i Really need this info also
Thank you!!
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Just letting anyone know that is following my build I'm still here just waiting on a few parts and doing some trial and error on hinges for the engine cover and front trunk lid... Thought I had the engine cover hinged good and then it hit the main body :'( guess that's why Lamborghini made those god awful long ones they use! Placed an order on a center console from Tom @ TRP Motorsports 2000kits.com ill let everyone know the quality just as soon as it arrives... It is a OE splashed one and he only charged $250 for it. So long for now, glad there are some builders making progress ::salute
Dustin
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Got around to installing my AC condenser over the weekend. Not much progress, stinking hot weather! At this pace prob going to be a few years But really im going to be starting on wet sanding the body the next few weeks and work on some of the dreaded body work while its hot outside! My new splashed console should be in soon that I ordered from Tom @ TRP motorsports (2000kits.com) I will update the quality as soon as it arrives. So long for now
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Finished up AC condenser brackets and reinstalled the front bumper. The fan will be mounted as a pusher and cooling ducts will be plumed from the front grills to the fan. There will still be plenty of room to finish up on the front trunk area and the exhaust from the fan/AC condenser will go under the car like on the factory Fiero. This will be wired to the AC fan relay so it will come on when the AC is running.
Also drove the car around for about an hour last night to see what the temps are running and so far the factory fans kick on at 185 and temps cycled between 180 and 190 (this was monitored on the ODB2 port with a scan gauge II) . Car never got any hotter running around in 100 degree temps. ::wave for now
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Good show did you drive with out the hood on ?
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Good show did you drive with out the hood on ?
Ya the hood and everything but the doors. I still need to find hinges for the front hood and rear engine hatch. so for now they are just screwed in place.
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Here is the console I got from Tom @ TRP. All in all it was worth it for the money for a OEM splashed console, quality isn't all there but will def work.
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Last night I messed around and did some dry fitting of the interior parts I have on hand. Here is what is looks like right now.
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This is getting good(er)! (http://www.dndservices.co.uk/smiley/coke%20and%20popcorn.gif)
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That's coming together really nicely Dustin and that has to be one of the best fitting consoles that I've seen yet. ::thumbup
Chris
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Nice, Dustin. Nice seats too. Just an idea but you could fix the console and make a plug out of it and pull a mold off. Then lay up a GOOD one. Maybe sell a few if you choose. my $.02 Jim
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Thanks ::beers for the nice comments! Everything is just sitting there just to see how the parts fit. I was thinking that the console sat much further forward and I was going to need to make a "fake firewall" but it sets near prefect to the original car. Im pretty happy to the way it turned out. Mike (murci-me) said once the the original console was so wide that you needed to make new seat brackets and I don't think I will need to do that either. And Mr. Lambiero I don't make a habit of copying anything but this needed quite a bit of fixing so I did have it copied by a good friend and I hope he decides to sell a few since it is a known fact that the consoles that come with the G28 kits are for a right hand drive cars ::duh Also the guy that originally made the console isn't a member on any forum and I wouldn't want to profit off any work that I didn't do, I don't work that way ::angel
So what are the thoughts on the seats? They are just ebay ones I got last year to recover, I'm really in a toss up if I should use the Fiero seats with the tops or these. Personally I like the look of the modified Fiero seats but these are really comfortable and would be easy to have recovered.
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So what are the thoughts on the seats? They are just ebay ones I got last year to recover, I'm really in a toss up if I should use the Fiero seats with the tops or these. Personally I like the look of the modified Fiero seats but these are really comfortable and would be easy to have recovered.
I'm also planning on buying the same style of seats Dustin, in my opinion they look really good and you will be able to save some cash and a bit of hassle on modifying the Fiero seats. Those seats are ready to go ::thumbup. I really like the way your interior is starting to come together.
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Thank you Dustin for letting me borrow your parts. For anyone interested in the console please pm me. I made several repairs to the console that Dustin has and then made the mold. It looks better in person. I am not really in the parts business but I am willing to make a few of these. ::beers
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Is yours an auto transmission?
If so, did you install an auto transmission oil cooler (radiators that have this integral or a separate cooler)?
Thank you!
Peter
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I do have the Auto tranny and I am running a seperate tranny cooler, not going through the radiator....
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Todays topic will be hinges... I ordered a set of 98 Audi A4 trunk lid hinges for the front luggage area and a set of Seabring trunk hinges for the engine bonnet. I only had time to work on the front last night and I have decided to not use the inner hood due to lack of space between the hinge and the brake reservoir. I will just make a inner structure, panel bond it to the hood then glass over it, smooth and paint... I only got the hinges mounted, secured and hood temporarily mounted to the hinges last night. Shocks seem a bit strong but once the inner structure is in place the should be perfect, also I haven't gotten to the safety latch or the hood latch yet.
LP640 Replica Hood Hinged (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig9viAY2X3o#)
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Here is the Seabring trunk hinges I plan on using. They have a good fit and they should work with the way they lift (hopefully). And the last few pictures are just teasers, I got my tag and Lamborghini of Dallas Frame on. Still need to order my engine bonnet glass (notice how the lexan bows)
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That's too bad that you won't be able to use the inner hood, it's such a nice piece. Maybe you can try a different type of hinge, I know Extreme use the Honda Prelude trunk hinges, they show the installation on their video.
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Auto is that the original or the Honda one?! ::scratch :drool
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That's a Honda one in the picture, I know it looks pretty close to the rear engine lid hinges.
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Did a little work on the rear hinge, this was just a quick test to see if the Seabring hinges I bought would open at the correct angle without hitting. Everything is just temporary placed and will still need to be framed and shocks added. Did all of this in about and hour.
Hinge Test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND4ZajqqXg0#)
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This is what Alan has been working on, hope to get one to test soon :drool
IMG 6459 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUG4HD92Qx4#)
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Very nice, I'll be in on the first run of these ::thumbup
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Dude!!!! Sweeeeet¡¡¡¡ I will take a few as well.
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::beers I still haven't mastered my molding process but the parts are getting better each time. Soon I will offer them at an affordable price. A huge thanks goes to Dustin for scoring a OE handle and allowing me to replicate it.
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Looks perfect imo
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how did you mount that radiator in the front? looks like you reversed the fan,hows that working for you?
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how did you mount that radiator in the front? looks like you reversed the fan,hows that working for you?
Actually I have 2 rear mounted radiators in the rear with SPAL electric fans that seem to keep the car plenty cool. The front fan that you see is over the air conditioner condenser
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I pulled out my interior trim pieces and laid them out and put them in place to see how the fit was going to be.
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I also got these in the mail yesterday to go on my throttle bodies... They need a little trimming so it is mounted backward for the moment (im at work and have no tools)
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I pulled out my interior trim pieces and laid them out and put them in place to see how the fit was going to be.
a usmc butler man were did you get the interior pieces from ive been looking 4 some
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PM sent ::thumbup
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Love the new parts!! Pretty soon that pen holder is going haul a$$. ::tongue
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Well I picked up one of these from Harbor Freight a couple days ago and I have to sat these are a MUST in building our cars. You can attach anything from trim to hinges with these! Just wanted to share ::beers
http://www.harborfreight.com/45-piece-threaded-insert-riveter-kit-1210.html (http://www.harborfreight.com/45-piece-threaded-insert-riveter-kit-1210.html)
HOW TO INSTALL NUTSERT INSERT threaded insert demo fasteners australia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz2yZNqGNqo#ws)
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I also purchased one of these also from Harbor Freight. To properly bend your tubing to the correct contour of the inside of the bumper, hood, interior, etc. you will have to have something like this.
I have had several PM's and emails asking how I bend my tubing and I use this, pipe bender and heat & hammer
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I bought the bender from Harbor Freight a while back also.
Are you using all round stock for your sypport frame ans dis.you buy the seperate square die set?
Can you please tell me what size.tubing you are using?
HOW did you determine the length to get the framework to.mount to your main body? I have my body upside down and intend to 'bend and try until it fits'
but how did you dtermine where/how to.mate this.all to.the main frame/chassi
thank you!
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I bought the bender from Harbor Freight a while back also.
Are you using all round stock for your sypport frame ans dis.you buy the seperate square die set?
Can you please tell me what size.tubing you are using?
HOW did you determine the length to get the framework to.mount to your main body? I have my body upside down and intend to 'bend and try until it fits'
but how did you dtermine where/how to.mate this.all to.the main frame/chassi
thank you!
I am using several different size tubing, all is square no round. I am using tubing anywhere form 1/4" to 1"x2" 2x2" just whatever is strongest for the area it needs (most all of this is in my build thread). There is many ways to do your frame work, you can have your body off and upside down like you are doing or put the body on your car and make all the bracing and tach weld it in place. Then pull the body off finish welding then mount the body for the last time and make structural bracing as needed. In regard to this, "HOW did you determine the length to get the framework to.mount to your main body?" keep bending it till it fits all areas?, when you purchase it make sure you get plenty? Im not really sure how to answer the question...
Bottom line make sure it is safe and you put enough metal keep the body from moving, Weld it GOOD. You don't want to get into an accident and have a 1/4 pice of tubing impale you. I am over building my car and I have had may people tell me that I am over building my car. The way I look at it is, I decided to build my Lamborghini for looks not so much for performance. I want to be able to drive it feel safe and still run decent. If I wanted performance I would have kept my Viper or bought a supercharged Z06 or something.
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Something to leave with this Friday.... ::wave
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Did you bend that lexan/plexi piece? it looks really nice!
I was afraid to attempt to bend and tack the internal framing pieces with the body on - didn't want to burn/ignite something! ???
But i would much rather do it with the body on - and it takes up less space :)
The question I asked about length was meant to ask about how to longer pieces in with the body 'on' - e.g. it is hard to exactly fit without the ability to lay 'too long' pieces and do final 'trim to fit' isnt it?
Thanks again!!!
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I used this type of tubing bender for all my bends. This may not be the least expensive but Northern is a good supplier and the price isn't too bad at $179.99.
Check it out and search other suppliers for price if you like.
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/NTESearch?storeId=6970&ipp=24&Ntt=portable%2Bhydraulic%2Btubing%2Bbender (http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/NTESearch?storeId=6970&ipp=24&Ntt=portable%2Bhydraulic%2Btubing%2Bbender)
RT
edit: Harbor Freight = http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=hydraulic+tubing+bender (http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=hydraulic+tubing+bender)
$99
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That is the one i bought. ;)
Did you get the square stock dies?
If so do you know the part # as i am not sure what size to get
Can you actually build lexan/plexi with it without scratching/breaking it?
Sorry for the dumb question :)
Thanks!
Peter
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I did not get square dies. You will not be bending anything over 1" anyway. The larger tubes will be straight with miters cut to change angles. Any other bends are usually slight with a collective effect of curving a large radius.
The biggest radii will be with the 1" round tubing used up the windshield post. My windshield tubes have a bend around the lower corner of the windshield with a curve up the post and another radius over the top where that tube curves over the door opening.
The other location I used 1" tubing is over the wheel openings. Those tubes follow the arch of the fenders allowing a distance from the edge of the opening to provide a place to attach my inner fenders. These tubes also provide places to make fender and rocker panel mounting tabs.
A tip I recommend is to place masking tape straight down the tube and draw a straight line down the middle of the tape. Then when you are bending small "kinks" to produce a large curve, keep the line on the tape in the middle of the bender dies so the bends all stay inline. Otherwise the tube may have some strange twists that will be difficult to correct.
If you do want to use the round dies to bend square tubes, take a strip of flat steel the width of the square tube you want to bend and bend it to fit in the die, giving you a flat base to set the square tube. Then tack weld it in place (make them small tacks so you can break them or grind them off easily). That will hold the square tube in position when you bend.
RT
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Dustin,
You'd mentioned that you front inner hood was hitting your brake reservoir. Does anyone know if they made different styles of reservoirs for the Fiero (lower profiles) that might clear the inner hood a little better? You could also consider "dimpling" your inner hood in the spot where it hits and this should take a minor amount of cut away and glassing in.
Chris
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Cool idea RT!
Great thinking!
Thank you
Peter
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That is the one i bought. ;)
Did you get the square stock dies?
If so do you know the part # as i am not sure what size to get
Can you actually build lexan/plexi with it without scratching/breaking it?
Sorry for the dumb question :)
Thanks!
Peter
That's a glass headlight lens some of us have, not sure if the person is still selling them
I think if you made plexiglass ones you would make moulds and heat the plexi up in an oven then press it into the mould
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Dustin,
You'd mentioned that you front inner hood was hitting your brake reservoir. Does anyone know if they made different styles of reservoirs for the Fiero (lower profiles) that might clear the inner hood a little better? You could also consider "dimpling" your inner hood in the spot where it hits and this should take a minor amount of cut away and glassing in.
Chris
I made my own booster mount that angled the master cylinder and reservoir slightly down toward the front. You can't go too far with that or you will risk losing fluid out the cap or not having enough volume in the reservoir. (Maybe 2 - 3 degrees or just enough for clearance and to enable removing the cap for filling) The biggest thing you have to concern yourself with is the length of the rod from your pedal when the pedal is fully depressed. If the rod is too long it will hit the bottom of the bore in the cylinder before you reach end of travel of the pedal. NOT GOOD! If you make the rod with an adjustable length You could fine tune it OR you could make an adjustable stop on the pedal travel.
RT
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Redrill the 4 mounting holes 3/4" lower and elongate the pedal rod hole in the dash wall.
Jim
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Can you please tell me where you get your carbon fiber wrap?
The person here stopped selling it
Thanks!!!
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Can you please tell me where you get your carbon fiber wrap?
The person here stopped selling it
Thanks!!!
All of the CF I have is real. I don't have any CF wrap... If I was going to get some I would prob suggest EBay..?
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carbon fiber comes in sheets/rolls/etc that you then uae a 'solvent' to.adhere sort of.like fiberglass.
This is all 'real'.
I wasnt asking about 3M vinyl or something :)
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"Wrap" is normally considered the vinyl covering.
fibreglast is a good place for cf and other materials
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i reaalize but several folks called it 'wrapping it in carbon fiber ' before the 3m junk came out ::toothy
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Hi RT
Your idea with the tape line is a great one. :)
Thanks again for your help !
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Redrill the 4 mounting holes 3/4" lower and elongate the pedal rod hole in the dash wall.
Jim
Theye used to put hemis in early barracudas and darts. The master cylinder Would touch the large valve covers so Mopar came up with an adapter bracket. you probably can't use the Mopar one but it should give you some idea about what a well engineered bracket could look like
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http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?30361-A-body-Hemi-offset-brake-adaptor-and-master-cylinder-rod (http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?30361-A-body-Hemi-offset-brake-adaptor-and-master-cylinder-rod)
as mentioned in the link You could also get an adjustable rod for the brake pedal
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I think D+R used to use and old s-10 reservoir on the Fiero booster to gain clearance because it has a step down design, does anyone remember this trick?
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Few parts arrived in the mail today so I set them on the console to see how they fit.... ::toothy
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I pulled some door rubber from the back doors of 99 Ford explorer just to see how they would fit. They fit quite well and nearly the exact same size as the G28 door opening.
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::headbang ::thumbup
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Lovely parts not many more to go ::rocker
major parts anyway
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Cool find/thinking on the door rubber!
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Here is a short video testing out the rear engine hatch...
Replica Engine Hatch hinged (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0A5uTbNjzs#)
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a butler what u got done to your motor cuz i have the same
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RT - besides the 1" square tubing, can you tell me what other sizes you used and where you used them in your frame? Just trying to get a few comparisons before I do my interior support - usmc_butler thanks for your input on this before
RT-Did you do the framing by tacking with the body on and then puling and full welding after, or..?
Thank you for your input on the 1" tubing, etc., earlier!!
Peter
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a butler what u got done to your motor cuz i have the same
Rebuilt, roller rockers, cam, pulley, still need to order injectors and have the PCM programed...
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a butler what u got done to your motor cuz i have the same
nice im have took look in to that 4 mine thanx
Rebuilt, roller rockers, cam, pulley, still need to order injectors and have the PCM programed...
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Few more parts and pictures. Also made my framing for the rear engine cover last night the framing will need to be panel bond adhered and glassed over. Several of these parts will be reproduced.
Sorry, my finger got in the way of that one picture
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Stuff continued.....
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Still continuing....
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Them some crispy parts..... But your making great progress!!!
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Dustin,
Is it the angle of the picture or are the OEM headlight buckets too wide for the fenders? I have a OEM copied set coming and this has me a little worried since I'm using the G28 fenders also.
Chris
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Tony, ya most of my parts have been crispy once or twice! That's what makes them in my budget...! ::tongue
Chris, the buckets are just sitting on top of the fender. They fit fine under in the original spot I just didn't have a bracket to hold them or a camera man to take the picture while I held it in place.
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Tony, ya most of my parts have been crispy once or twice! That's what makes them in my budget...! ::tongue
Chris, the buckets are just sitting on top of the fender. They fit fine under in the original spot I just didn't have a bracket to hold them or a camera man to take the picture while I held it in place.
Whew.. I was afraid that I needed to rethink my headlights again. :D
How long before Texas is offering us needy members the rest of the console parts? It looks like you've got all the parts there now and it's just a matter of making some molds. I'm first in line! :P
Thanks,
Chris
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parts are at the pick up point ,if Texas can arrange to collect them Tue. of next week , i will have to ship one piece it was not in the box ,main top ,lid covers (2) and ash tray are their
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parts are at the pick up point ,if Texas can arrange to collect them Tue. of next week , i will have to ship one piece it was not in the box ,main top ,lid covers (2) and ash tray are their
Between your parts and Dustins, he should have everything needed to complete molds for the rest of the console pieces... Awesome!
Chris
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parts are at the pick up point ,if Texas can arrange to collect them Tue. of next week , i will have to ship one piece it was not in the box ,main top ,lid covers (2) and ash tray are their
Awesome IKR Big thank you from everyone needing the parts!!!!
How long before Texas is offering us needy members the rest of the console parts? It looks like you've got all the parts there now and it's just a matter of making some molds. I'm first in line! :P
Between your parts and Dustins, he should have everything needed to complete molds for the rest of the console pieces... Awesome!
Chris
I'm not sure when he will get around to them, Im sure it wont be long... I just need to drive down there and deliver them or next time he is here he can pick them up. Im planing to go down there in 3 weeks for the weekend. He doesnt know it yet but im goin to have him help me panel bond my inner hood and rear deck lid ::tongue and drop off parts for us if he hasn't already got them ::beers
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Purchased a few more parts this weekend to have copied....
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Started work on enclosing the cabin on each side of the back window. I will not be making this area OEM, the original OEM cars actually have a pocket type area here and the vents on the back of the 1/4 glass go back to the engine area. My vents will just be for looks not functionally I want to keep the wind noise down and keeping it simple are a few of the reasons I have decided to do it this way.
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Count me in for the hood latch cover and the seatbelt trim piece.
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Count me in for the hood latch cover and the seatbelt trim piece.
Hopefully Ill be headed to see Texas this weekend and bringing him some parts to copy... Just hope all the parts come in by then ;/
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Also picked this up today for the roadster guys... If it comes in before the weekend ill be taking it south to have some copies made ::rocker
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Picked up my LP640 engine hatch glass today ::toothy
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Front trunk trim piece come in. The trim piece fits PERFECT i'm really happy with the way it fits. I just need to make the filler piece between the bumper and the trim and also find a set of stock or close to stock hood latch and release to fit but that is about it...
Also finished up all of the body mount locations and pulled the body off for all of the final welding and paint the chassis in a couple weeks. I also need to finish up a few things on the chassis while the body is off, need to run the AC lines to the rear and run new rear brake lines to the back. After the body gets mounted permanently things should move along pretty fast.
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You are on a roll buddy and getting it done!
Keep it up man and she'll be done in no time at all.
Chris
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at this rate you will be finished for Summer ,excellent Job ::thumbup ::salute
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Boy that car looks small compared to you ::toothy
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Front trunk trim piece come in. The trim piece fits PERFECT i'm really happy with the way it fits. I just need to make the filler piece between the bumper and the trim and also find a set of stock or close to stock hood latch and release to fit but that is about it...
Also finished up all of the body mount locations and pulled the body off for all of the final welding and paint the chassis in a couple weeks. I also need to finish up a few things on the chassis while the body is off, need to run the AC lines to the rear and run new rear brake lines to the back. After the body gets mounted permanently things should move along pretty fast.
Let's get those babies splashed.. I'm in for one.
Chris
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What size tires are those? :)
Thanks!
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What size tires are those? :)
Thanks!
I'm not sure ill have to look. Its whatever the factory Murci runs. I wanted to be sure they were factory size when I built the car so I knew that everything was set up as close to OEM as possible. Ill get a new set of wheels and tires when i'm finished
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What size tires are those? :)
Thanks!
The OEM wheel and tire sizes are:
Front tire size : 245/35 ZR 18
Rear tire size : 335/30 ZR 18
Front rim size : 8.5 inch x 18 inch
Rear rim size : 13 inch x 18 inch
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Not much progress, just lots of welding this weekend. 28" wiper came in for the new wiper assembly (thanks Auto for the PM!), Headlight glass finally came in, worked on my inner hood a little and TB...
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Is that headlight glass still available? If so, what is the source? I assume it is real glass there.
Mike
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Well pines I think it is the last set available in the world... I've looked high and low for these and bought them 6 months ago and they just now arrived. I think there might be a hookup in Gremany but ill have to see how that is coming along...
Don't know if this is a good link or not bit this is a quick video of me runnin around my yard in the Murci Chassis
http://youtu.be/LQpTgGjzrjY (http://youtu.be/LQpTgGjzrjY)
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The link works. Weld a mowing deck on there and your in business. You could reduce the cutting time down to a few minutes at 55mph! ::K
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Too bad on the glass headlights. :(
Looks like you are having a blast in your toy. Enjoy! :)
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Can't wait til mines drivable lol
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Got the Roadster trim panel that goes behind the passenger seat (the driver side will be the same only no charger). Its quite a bit different then the Coupe one.
In the second pic the right side is the roadster
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Is it possible to measure the width of the coupe -changer panel please , also I have a bumper closing trim panel if there is any demand for a copy .
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String Ya I can measure it for you ::salute It will be this evening when I get home... I do actually need that bumper closing panel, it goes with that hinge cover piece I already have and in your picture... Can you copy and sell one or know where one might be to buy?
Dustin
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That's a panel I've been wanting
the little hood adjusters that go on it are cheap too
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Worked on a few things this weekend and pictures speak louder then words so forgive me if I just post the pictures and if you have any questions just ask. That seems to be how my build has been going lately, not really much to explain.
I started taking apart the OEM consoler armrest trim and removed the burnt lid and tore it apart getting ready to have another pad made. Also mounted it on the good CF armrest piece that was made by Frank.
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Console Mock up
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I made a templete for the filler between the Fiero door gap and the Murci door gap then cut it out of plates steel with my plasma cutter and welded in place..
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Last to end the weekend, I got the chassis all ready for paint, finished welding all gaps and filled any leftover gaps/areas with 3M windshield urethane to sound dampen and seal areas. Lastly painted the chassis last night.
This week I will be installing Dyna Mat to seal and sound dampen the cockpit area of the car and install the body for the last time ::toothy
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Maybe it's my eyes or the picture of your chassis but I can't see any triangular brace from the rocker to the rear upper stretch area. I really think that it is a necessity to have one on each side. Jim
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Maybe it's my eyes or the picture of your chassis but I can't see any triangular brace from the rocker to the rear upper stretch area. I really think that it is a necessity to have one on each side. Jim
Jim no I didn't but I will add them. I still need to put another coat of paint on and before I do that I will add those braces. This is the first time I've seen that done and that is a crucial area to be strong and not flex or even break! Thanks Jim
Dustin
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I see you kicked up a notch ,you have your build in high gear,excellent progress ,permanent mounting seems real close. ::salute
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OK, Justin. Just a thought. Nothing like a triangle for strength along with gussets in the corners. Jim
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Headed down to visit Texas this weekend and deliver a bunch of OEM parts to be splashed, hopefully I'll have some prices and times for the duplicated parts to be finished.
Made the inner structure for the inner hood, got it ready to be bonded to the inner and outer hood. Also have a CF ash tray on its way in the mail.
Im really pushing to have a completion date for early spring. I hate to put a time frame on this build but that will be my 2 year mark and I almost have every part I need with the acceptation of door cards. ::beers. My plan as of now will either be to keep it or sell it and start over with a OEM chassis/body with a Audi or LS drivetrain. The good thing about having all of the OEM parts splashed is they will fit on a OEM car, less expensive parts ill have access too and Ill have a real car in the end minus motor and tranny.
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Will you be welding in a plate to bolt your hood latch to? Jim
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Yes, I also still need to run 2 more tubes across the back near the hinges, I just ran out of material >:(
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I also was told about a replica set of the older Murci seats that are on eBay. Check these out and what do you think? I think im in for a set of these ::bounce
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121167269948?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/121167269948?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)
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I've been watching those seats and I think they look great. ::thumbup
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Interesting! good price
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Finally back from visiting Texas in Texas ::tongue and he was gracious enough to show me some techniques to making parts molds. So im happy to say I learned a LOT hopefully soon I cant get some materials together and attempt to try this on my own. This is some of the stuff we were woking on while I was down there. Hopefully soon he can do a couple limited runs on these parts.
I want to add this takes a TON of time and materials to make these molds and parts, the waxing, PVA, curing time between coats, cutting the mold to get the part out, etc. There is a reason this stuff is priced the way it is. I was there 24 hours and only made 3 (small) molds and didn't get one part pulled. You can do the math on the time a $100 dollar part and the time it has had spent on it. So with this being said Tex hasn't touched his car in 2 months due to all of the parts he is making. So when he offers a limited run on parts, he does this to get the parts out and get back on his car. I just wanted to put this out there for the members that think parts "Splashing" is just running water over a part and "wala" there are 2 parts now ::tongue there is slightly more involved ::beers
Also I left several more parts there that we didn't get too so hopefully they will get molded as time permits.
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While I was down there I was introduced to Norton panel bond adhesive. Words do not explain the fantastic use of this stuff, let me just say it is like Super Glue for building these cars ::toothy! They make it in a 1 min 5 min and 15 min cure time and it works great, wont find anything that will hold a tighter grip, works great to hold something in place when you are working by yourself and don't have time to mix a batch of glass and hold it while it cures.
I used it on my inner framing for the hood this weekend. worked fantastic!
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Lastly to end the weekend, I got my tail lights all wired up. I now have brake lights, reverse lights, driving lights & hooked up the OEM Tag lights. Still trying to get the eclipse column wiring diagram to find the signals ::scratch.
Last picture is kinda crappy, I shot a video and this was taken of the video. It shows the backup lights working.
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Lastly to end the weekend, I got my tail lights all wired up. I now have brake lights, reverse lights, driving lights & hooked up the OEM Tag lights. Still trying to get the eclipse column wiring diagram to find the signals ::scratch.
I am using a Corvette steering column and had the problem of trying to find out the wiring from the column. I bought a factory shop manual thinking that would help. All it showed was all the wiring going into a body computer. The results came out the ther side of the computer. NO HELP AT ALL!
I took all the wires from the column and attached them to a terminal board. Then I went down the line with a multi-meter to see which wires were connected through every iteration of switch position and listed them in a matrix of rows and columns. It takes a lot of patience and thought to figure it out but you can find out which wire does what.
The other problem is, the wires used on mine were only meant to send signals to the body computer so they were small gauge, not suitable to actually power anything, especially headlights. The solution is to have the wires send signals to relays and let the relay do the "heavy lifting".
RT
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Looking So good! I love those tail lights! They will definitely compliment your build. Very nice job on the hood frame. Very clean work.
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Here is a video of both the LP640 tail lights hooked up & working correctly.
Replica LP640 Taillights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMjJgBNW2Fc#)
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Good job bro, those lights sure do look good. You just forgot to do the hazards LOL!
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Yes Dustin, making these parts is time consuming, expensive and it takes experience and skill to do it correctly. Not to mention the health risks. Some people just don't have an appreciation for it and they think it should be cheap. It is educational to see how much effort it really is.
The car is looking great BTW!
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Last night I finally got all of my wiring finished. I now have headlights (high and low beam) signals to the headlight bucket and the front and rear bumpers all sealed in loom ready to finish the headlight buckets and install the OEM glass. I also started laying down the insulation.
I had a video of the headlights working but I must have deleted it... ::scratch
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Nice where did the brows come from again? I am finished my head lights aside from those
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Found the video, waiting on my new headlight buckets to arrive before I mount them so for now they are just sitting there. Does anybody know if both lights are supposed to stay on when the high beams are on? and if so how would I wire this without getting feedback?
http://youtu.be/og7LEbFrBCM (http://youtu.be/og7LEbFrBCM)
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Yes Dustin, making these parts is time consuming, expensive and it takes experience and skill to do it correctly. Not to mention the health risks. Some people just don't have an appreciation for it and they think it should be cheap. It is educational to see how much effort it really is.
The car is looking great BTW!
Thank you and I agree im glad Tex took the time to show me all of this!
Nice where did the brows come from again? I am finished my head lights aside from those
I got them from John some time back, how's your build goin? Get any parts form John yet?
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Oh I asked awhile ago about them and he didn't have them even for himself. Nah there's always something going on with him. probably going to cut my loss and move on. I'm sure my money is long gone after all the money he spent.
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Oh I asked awhile ago about them and he didn't have them even for himself. Nah there's always something going on with him. probably going to cut my loss and move on. I'm sure my money is long gone after all the money he spent.
I talked to him last week and he said he is almost caught up. I wouldn't cut my losses yet he will get you the parts, I would just keep after him.
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What projectors are you using?I bought p1 from ebay but don't know what i should use for the bigger one?Where did you buy yours?
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http://www.autotecknic.com/product_p/un-pf-p6.htm (http://www.autotecknic.com/product_p/un-pf-p6.htm)
P6 ones not sure if theyre on ebay anymore like they used to be
seems more expensive now too. there could be an alternative that I'm not aware of
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[url]http://www.autotecknic.com/product_p/un-pf-p6.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.autotecknic.com/product_p/un-pf-p6.htm[/url])
P6 ones not sure if theyre on ebay anymore like they used to be
seems more expensive now too. there could be an alternative that I'm not aware of
Good call Tallon I just spent the last 10 minutes looking for some links with no luck. Seems they might be a little harder to find then they used to be :\
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This is the only useful link I could find on G28 donor parts
http://www.kitcentral.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=8617 (http://www.kitcentral.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=8617)
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Not sure if this helps or not but can't believe I found this picture
They have the "high" beam on right?
I think you have it right tho imo
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Nope thats the low beam. High beam is in the inside and its the smaller light (more of a concentrated beam) ::study
I did read on line that to make both of the lights come on you wuold need a Diode or a relay and a realy would be better since both light would pull so much current through the switch...
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Here is a video of both the LP640 tail lights hooked up & working correctly.
Wow, did you make those? On the vid it says lp640 replica tail lights but wasn't sure if you meant replica tail lights or oem tail lights for your replica. If you made those you did a swell job my friend. If they are bought, then you still did a good job with everything. Love your build.
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Blast!
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Wow, did you make those? On the vid it says lp640 replica tail lights but wasn't sure if you meant replica tail lights or oem tail lights for your replica. If you made those you did a swell job my friend. If they are bought, then you still did a good job with everything. Love your build.
Ok so I see how that could be confusing. They are OEM LP640 tail lights on a Replica car. I should prob rename that video so people aren't blowing me up wanting me to make them a set...! Haha
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Did you and Jeff connect on the machined aluminum headlight rings? He had about four sets of the large rings done and he was going to do another run of the smaller rings in a week or so if you are still interested. These are really nice parts that you'll never have to worry about fading, warping, cracking or doing any finish work on like some of the resin sets out there.
Chris
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Did you and Jeff connect on the machined aluminum headlight rings? He had about four sets of the large rings done and he was going to do another run of the smaller rings in a week or so if you are still interested. These are really nice parts that you'll never have to worry about fading, warping, cracking or doing any finish work on like some of the resin sets out there.
Chris
I havent herd from him yet can you PM me his contact info?
Got some stuff in the mail yesterday to almost finish out my console
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Did you and Jeff connect on the machined aluminum headlight rings? He had about four sets of the large rings done and he was going to do another run of the smaller rings in a week or so if you are still interested. These are really nice parts that you'll never have to worry about fading, warping, cracking or doing any finish work on like some of the resin sets out there.
Chris
I havent herd from him yet can you PM me his contact info?
Got some stuff in the mail yesterday to almost finish out my console
I'll ask him to email you.
Thanks,
Chris
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What projectors are you using?I bought p1 from ebay but don't know what i should use for the bigger one?Where did you buy yours?
Found the P6 lights, they have the halo ring around them but they just unscrew and come off... Hope this helps
http://www.autotecknic.com/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=UN%2DPF%2DP6 (http://www.autotecknic.com/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=UN%2DPF%2DP6)
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Wheels are back from being sand blasted ready to be powder coated or painted.
Last picture is what they should look like...
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I'm glad I have the same wheels, I plan to keep them they look great in black and keep the older lambo style they used to have on their cars when I became a fan as a kid
What finish are you going for??
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I'm glad I have the same wheels, I plan to keep them they look great in black and keep the older lambo style they used to have on their cars when I became a fan as a kid
What finish are you going for??
Same here, for some reason I like these wheels a lot more than the newer style.
Did you take out the bolts? If not are you going to take out the bolts before you paint them? Really can't tell by the picture if they are out or not.
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Not much weekend progress, Seat belts came in, sat the body back on real quick to get the headlight bucket assemblies in place and started on the mounting brackets that will hold the buckets/lights in place.
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Ordered this ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Perforated-Upholstery-Leather-Cow-Hide-BKP91-/380716296806?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58a475aa66 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Perforated-Upholstery-Leather-Cow-Hide-BKP91-/380716296806?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58a475aa66) ) last week and got it in last night. Got a chance to play around with it and see how it will work and lay down on the Arm rest pieces. I also ordered this ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/350877365244?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/350877365244?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649) ) to use on the console, dash, door cards, etc.
This was just a quick picture of how it lays down and looks on the arm rest piece. Last 2 pictures is how the OEM car looks.
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amazing!!! keep it up!! ::beers
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Man your build will be one of the best for sure I can't wait to see it finished.I wanted to thank you for pointing me in the right direction when it came to headlights i bought P6 from a website nobody has them on ebay anymore you were right.I wanted to ask you where you got your door shocks?I am using roblp640 door frame inside my doors and need some shocks but son't know which ones to get because there is too many kinds on ebay and too many different lengths.This frame is pretty heavy I want the right showcks for the door to go up and down with ease.Also do you happen to have taillight buckets for sale if so how much.You can PM me.
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Thanks for the comments ::salute In regard to the shocks I'll be getting a set from http://www.mcmaster.com/#gas-shocks/=orzy93 (http://www.mcmaster.com/#gas-shocks/=orzy93) but for now I am just using a set of mini van hatch shocks for test
Got safety belt adjusters in and mocked up & JW headlight bucket in. OEM rings should be in by friday or saturday. Hopefully have then painted, sealed and adjusted in the next couple weeks.
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Take some pictures of the back of them please. I need to see how you are mounting your lights and how you plan to seal them up. Did he give you the back piece to them also? ::thumbup
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Those Watson headlight buckets look awesome!
My set is on order with the rest of a Watson body and I've decided to take the plunge and rid myself of the majority of the CarKit G28 body. I'll be retaining some of the roadster specific parts of the G28 but everything will be gone. 8)
Will be investing in OEM roadster side windows and a OEM windshield as soon as I can afford them. I'm moving into my new shop soon and I'll have my new parts to work with and then the build diary continues. ::thumbup
Chris
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Those Watson headlight buckets look awesome!
My set is on order with the rest of a Watson body and I've decided to take the plunge and rid myself of the majority of the CarKit G28 body. I'll be retaining some of the roadster specific parts of the G28 but everything will be gone. 8)
Will be investing in OEM roadster side windows and a OEM windshield as soon as I can afford them. I'm moving into my new shop soon and I'll have my new parts to work with and then the build diary continues. ::thumbup
Chris
That's awesome news, congratulations!
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Take some pictures of the back of them please. I need to see how you are mounting your lights and how you plan to seal them up. Did he give you the back piece to them also? ::thumbup
Ill have to show you the plan on them, the back is just fiberglass so they are going to be interesting to say the least to mount. What I have done so far is make the plate that the actual lights mount too and the brackets that bolt to the chassis (so they can be removed if needed). Next the plan is to attach the bucket to the plate using the panel bond adhesive and then make the sides and lastly a removable panel in the back (to cover the wiring from the weather). Lastly after the headlights are adjusted I will run some flexible silicone around the the head of the lights to "seal" the leans and since it will be flexible slight adjustments that may need made will be easy.
I know may sound confusing but next week you will see more what Im taking about.
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Those Watson headlight buckets look awesome!
My set is on order with the rest of a Watson body and I've decided to take the plunge and rid myself of the majority of the CarKit G28 body. I'll be retaining some of the roadster specific parts of the G28 but everything will be gone. 8)
Will be investing in OEM roadster side windows and a OEM windshield as soon as I can afford them. I'm moving into my new shop soon and I'll have my new parts to work with and then the build diary continues. ::thumbup
Chris
Ya JW's parts speak for themselves he is the Vincent Van Gough of the fiberglass world, the guy is awesome at fiberglass, I have no idea how he made the little sides on each side if the bucket. The detail is astonishing I just hope he gets everyone caught up, I hate showing my parts when everyone else is still waiting...
Thats bad a$$ you took the plunge to go all OEM! There is no way I could do it now not after all the work I have done. Next build will be a OEM chassis car with a Watson body.
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I figured that I was 75% there already and there is no telling how long Watson will be making the larger parts once he's caught up. Windows were becoming a big deal to me and this is a problem on the G28. I'll be able to use OEM window glass which will roll down all the way into the doors but also finding replacements will be lot easier (if not more expensive) in the event of a glass breakage. I'm building my car to drive so these little fit and comfort items are important to me now and will pay off big time in the future (think of a getting caught in a rain storm with poorly fitting windows).
My build diary will pick up again once I get some things settled and I should be back at it sometime this winter. You are certainly raising the bar on your build and giving me a lot to think about and consider on mine.
Chris
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I finally got the Chassis back on all 4's and installed more dynamat. There are a few more loose ends I want to tie up before reinstalling the body. I need to figure out a way to hook up the rear Fiero AC lines to the SC3800 series II AC compressor (ANY suggestions would be GREAT). I also went on a little joy ride last night to check temps and see how the headlights adjustments were going to work. Tomorrow will be seat belts installed, seats bolted in and all console pieces installed. Today getting the black tag removed and insurance. I would like to drive the chassis around for a week before setting the body on it to see how things are going to work. I know it needs to be aligned already.
Here are the pictures (can't post a update without pictures, right...) Im sure everyone is getting sic of seeing pictures..
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No, we are not sick of pictures! Keep them coming. It is looking great. :)
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Pics, Pics, Pics, Never get tired of pics. Its looking great! Very clean work!
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Thanks Mitch, cant wait to get as far along as you ::beers
Got The Hummer seat belts installed and working like OEM. Just a note to all Fiero Chassis builders; the Fiero center tunnel is about 2" to tall and will affect the distance between the top of the armrest and the Safety Belt cover (wont be OEM distance) Ive decided to not cut the Fiero tunnel down to keep room for all of the wires, I will just make it work. Also the original Murci back firewall is straight up and down and the Fiero is angled so there will be a gap that will need to be fixed on the console armrest piece. Other than those issues everything else went great!
This is all just dry fitting parts, there will be less of gaps once trim, carpet and parts are covered...
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Are your paddle shifters functional? If so, do you have details on how you hooked yours up?
I think I have mine figured out and will be posting data as soon as I believe I am correct :)
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Are your paddle shifters functional? If so, do you have details on how you hooked yours up?
I think I have mine figured out and will be posting data as soon as I believe I am correct :)
Yes they are... Here is the complete build thread on it http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=232.0 (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=232.0)
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Well since the car is tagged and insured now I fugured it was time to sneak down to the store last night ::tongue No videos just yet but I will get one up soon. Let me tell you those tires that are on there have zero grip the built SC3800 rips the tires loose and the sound of the supercharger sound awesome ::toothy
Pictures are kinda crappy it was dark and I didnt park in the front ::counfused
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Are your paddle shifters functional? If so, do you have details on how you hooked yours up?
I think I have mine figured out and will be posting data as soon as I believe I am correct :)
Yes they are... Here is the complete build thread on it [url]http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=232.0[/url] ([url]http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=232.0[/url])
Here's a thing: I've been controlling my auto since 2011 using a linear actuator with feedback controlled by a Pololu JRK. No issues at all, and I use my car almost evryday.
Reason for joining and this mail? I've been looking to change my gear selector from a analogue input (rotary switched resistor values) on the JRK to a serial control using an Arduino. Just love to know your experiences in terms of day to day reliability. Also, has enyone suggested some "safety conditionals" - such as requiring an input from the brake pedal, such that a brake depress is required for a change to reverse?
Also, could you kindly post up your latest arduino code?
Amazing to see other people have gone for the very same solution with the Pololu JRK - I'm not alone!
p.s. Apologies to all if this isn't in the right thread..
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Here's a thing: I've been controlling my auto since 2011 using a linear actuator with feedback controlled by a Pololu JRK. No issues at all, and I use my car almost evryday.
Reason for joining and this mail? I've been looking to change my gear selector from a analogue input (rotary switched resistor values) on the JRK to a serial control using an Arduino. Just love to know your experiences in terms of day to day reliability. Also, has enyone suggested some "safety conditionals" - such as requiring an input from the brake pedal, such that a brake depress is required for a change to reverse?
Also, could you kindly post up your latest arduino code?
Amazing to see other people have gone for the very same solution with the Pololu JRK - I'm not alone!
p.s. Apologies to all if this isn't in the right thread..
Welcome to Lambo Clone! I thought I was the only one doing the paddle setup using any of these parts. I looked forever for code and others for input. However to answer your question, ive only had the chassis on the road for about a week and as far as the paddle shift goes it seems to be working fine. All the code that has been written is in the link above. As far as safety the only thing that has been done is the Arduino will put the car in park every time you turn the key on this insures that you don't start it up in gear and the paddles only go 1st gear through Drive so you can't go into Neutral, Reverse or Park without hitting the buttons on the E gear panel. I may go back later and add more security measures but for now that is how the code is written ::beers
Dustin
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Some minor updates, I shot a video of me driving the chassis through campus over the weekend. It did really good but I noticed the alternator isn't charging (I know know why, but ill pot this in a new thread) everything else went relatively good ::headbang
http://youtu.be/HFF4Yb9z2sY (http://youtu.be/HFF4Yb9z2sY)
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Started fitting the pads and ash try lid into the console lid and hingeing them. Yesterday I bought more metal to make inner fenders so tonight I plan on tackling that so I can get it aligned tomorrow.
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Got the inner fenders made last night, they fit nice and snug to the body, however, I left a small 1"-2" gap so I could run a thin layer of rubber between the gap and the inner fenders and the body..
If I can get the Alternator issue fixed and the AC lines connected to the new AC compressor Ill be ready to install the body for good ::toothy I cant wait...
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Proud of your efforts & dedication on your car, looks great ,don,t forget to thank the wife for giving up the time you have spent in the Man cave working on your car. you are almost in the 3% club ....
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Proud of your efforts & dedication on your car, looks great ,don,t forget to thank the wife for giving up the time you have spent in the Man cave working on your car. you are almost in the 3% club ....
Thanks IKR...!
I took the car to my buddies alignment shop and he has the Lamborghini Murcielago's original alignment specs on his machine! So I had the car aligned to OEM Lambroghini specs. I dont know if it helped over a regualr alignment or not but it drives FANTASTIC, like a big go cart no slack, extremly tight steering, I put about 100 miles on it over the weekend with no problems! Hoping to have the body on in the next couple weeks.
Thursday Texas and I are flying out to LA to meet with Autopro, Batbuilder, and Victor (DrMurcielago). We are going to try to score some good oem parts to copy! Gonna be a great trip, wish it was going to be longer. We will only be staying until saturday morning.
Dustin
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Couple pictures from this weekend
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One more
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Thursday Texas and I are flying out to LA to meet with Autopro, Batbuilder, and Victor (DrMurcielago). We are going to try to score some good oem parts to copy! Gonna be a great trip, wish it was going to be longer. We will only be staying until saturday morning.
Dustin
I wish I could meet up you you guys but I gotta work. Good luck on finding some treasures!
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It looks great!
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It looks great!
Thanks, Robert
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Ok since my trip to LA and seeing Jayso and Mitch's progress, I've really gotten the fever again and started working on my car had core now ::toothy! So since I got back I permanently mounted the body and in 1 evening I completely put the car back together. Everything is just in place for now, hinges are there and working (other then doors) I still need door handle buckets (inner and outer) latches for the trunk and engine compartment, etc. Ordered my back glass and windshield, things are moving right along..
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Also dry fit my dash, egear plate with buttons...
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I have a couple videos of me driving around I will have to combine them and post them on youtube, but here are a couple pictures of me out and around. Sure get some funny looks with no doors and 20 different colors!
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Oh boy! you are soooo close to being done.
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Nice to see it being driven on the road! You must be pretty excited at this point.
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Ok since my trip to LA and seeing Jayso and Mitch's progress, I've really gotten the fever again and started working on my car had core now ::toothy! So since I got back I permanently mounted the body and in 1 evening I completely put the car back together. Everything is just in place for now, hinges are there and working (other then doors) I still need door handle buckets (inner and outer) latches for the trunk and engine compartment, etc. Ordered my back glass and windshield, things are moving right along..
OH NO!, I didn't know I was contagious! Should I be sorry?
Man it looks good put together. Nothing like driving it around and getting those looks from bystanders. Love it! Great work.
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Way to go! It even looks good without paint. ::thumbup You'll be a 3%er in no time.
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Looks sick ::thumbup
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Looks awesome Mr.B ::thumbup ::LAMBO ::thumbup
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Whoa, I say whoa! You did say that you put your body on permanently and you haven't fit the doors on yet? Please tell me that you had your doors fit, PLEASE. I don't see any strikers on your quarter panels is the reason that I ask. Jim
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Whoa, I say whoa! You did say that you put your body on permanently and you haven't fit the doors on yet? Please tell me that you had your doors fit, PLEASE. I don't see any strikers on your quarter panels is the reason that I ask. Jim
::thumbup
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Whoa, I say whoa! You did say that you put your body on permanently and you haven't fit the doors on yet? Please tell me that you had your doors fit, PLEASE. I don't see any strikers on your quarter panels is the reason that I ask. Jim
I already had them dry fitted... The strikers aren't there yet but the spots were marked on the doors and the body, I just didn't want to install them and take a chance of them being off before I mounted the body for the last time
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Got this in the mail yesterday...
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Most everyone agrees that the doors are the bigest headache in the build for good reason. Alignment, alignment, alignment. Here are a few things to consider: Hinge support alignment and welding, strut mount on the front fender leg, outer door skin clearing the front fender when opening the door, and striker support reinforcement. Hope that it works out well for you. Let is know how your way goes. Jim
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Jim I always take your advice you give me to heart and I think you for taking the time to let me know when things I do are questionable. In this situation the front hinge has been set for a year now and the gas strut is set and braced also has been done for some time now, long before I installed the body this last time. The rear latch plate is accessible once the hole is cut in the door jam where it is marked, everything has been mocked up and worked before I don't see why it wouldn't work again since nothing has changed theoretically other the the body is attached now. But thank you for you concern sir, always appreciate your advice.
Dustin
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Dustin,
Does your door lift higher than that? The way the pics look the access of entry is limites because the doors aren't opened all the way up. The corner of the windshield should be relatively close to the middle of the door lower portion. If that makes sense????
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In the beginning I had 2 issues one was my struts were too short and my front hinges were mounted too low. Both issues are now resolved, I will post some updated pictures of the doors in the next week.
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Ive been off the car for a month or so and I have just been getting caught up on the small things. I decided to redo my headlight buckets. I wanted them to be one whole unit like OEM. Here is a little build on how I did them.
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First I went to the Pic N Pull salvage and got a view of the twist in lights that are used in a wide variety of vehicles (mine are from a late 90's chevy truck, Similar to the 2000's dodge trucks also)
I ordered all LED lighting off of eBay. These will be for the parking light and the side marker lights on the bumper (http://www.ebay.com/itm/280680281826?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/280680281826?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649)). The other set will be used in the signal area where the round tube looking thing is (http://www.ebay.com/itm/331056995801?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/331056995801?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649)) I wanted them to be nice and bright!
Next I drilled holes in the buckets and used a Dremal tool to make little ears for the bulb sockets to push and twist in like factory.
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Next I went to Autozone and bought a set of reflectors (Blazer was the brand). This doesn't matter where get them, you can use the factory ones off of the Fiero or anything, all they do is Panel Bond to the eyebrow piece and after it sets just trim off the access lens with a Dremal.
The next step was to order some plastic test tubes that will fit the circle opening on the brow. All you need to do with them is cut them slide them in place and panel bond them and the Brows are done. (MAKE SURE YOU FINAL PAINT THEM BEFORE THIS STEP!)
This is what the Brows look like finished..
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Next attach the rings to the finished painted bucket. Make sure you attach the rings first before you mount either projector if you don't then your projector bulb will either be mounted too high, low or stick to far out or in.
After you get the rigs mounted attach your projector housing and brackets to the buckets (make sure the word TOP is to the top of the headlight bucket and the adjusters are accessible with the 12mm wrench so they can be adjusted).
Here are some final pictures of my buckets without the glass installed. The only 2 things I am going to do is run a bead of silicone around the back side of the opening around where the projector goes through the bucket to seal the leans and I am planning on having a local tint shop install 50% tint on the inside of my glass leans to keep out UV rays on the paint and give it that slightly darker look but not too excessive. Lastly urethane the glass down on the bucket with windshield urethane and install!
Hope this helps anyone... I know there are 1,000 different ways to do this and this is only the way I did it
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Looks great!
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Nice work Mr.B ::salute
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Clean setup. Ingenuity paid off. These look great.
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very well made!! looks amazing
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Those headlight buckets look great !
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Man this is going to make it so much easier for everyone to do theirs now, thanks for posting this tutorial.
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Looking good Dustin but where are the lenses? Put them bad boys on top and post up another picture!
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Thanks for all the comments! ::salute
Lenses are getting the tint put on, they will be the last thing I install after all the dust settles.
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Those, you just convinced me to buy a set lol
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Haven't had time of may updates lately with the holidays and budget. However I have been working on my headlight buckets and finally got them finished, mounted & installed last night...
I completely redid my brackets from my original plan I had to make them a more OEM sealed unit that can be unbolted with 3 bolts and adjusted with slotted mounts. The wiring harness can just be unplugged and 3 bolts and the complete light comes out through the inner fender, out the wheel well without removing the bumper.
If you work and build in your shop alone like I do most of the time you will have a really hard time holding the headlight buckets in place while making brackets so the best thing I came up with the Plumbers Strap. You can screw it into the front luggage compartment run it under the bucket, then up and over the fender and pull until the bucket is in the desired place. You shouldn't need to screw the other end however I did since the glass lenses are so hard to come by and they are HEAVY!
In the other 2 pictures you can see the mounting brackets I fabricated and welded to the chassis.
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Here are the rest of the pictures of the lights all working, I also have a youtube video of a walk around of all the lights working I still need to post up.
Please excuse the mess in the shop I'm building a car ::tongue
Here is a youtube clip
http://youtu.be/pet_a88DXuE (http://youtu.be/pet_a88DXuE)
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looking great Dustin!!! Almost Done!!!
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Your headlights came out perfect! Is there any way you can post some pictures of the back to see how you mounted the lights and sealed them up? Thanks bud.
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Man that's looking awesome brother. Your lights look amazing. Keep it up!
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Never knew the bullet light blinked. Is it like that OEM or that's how you're putting it on yours? Either way, I like it. You sure have your work cut out for you in filling in all those gaps I see.
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Nice work. The larger headlight lens looks great. You've convinced me to cut the molded buckets out or my fenders.
I have to say the side markers fit the best. The holes trimmed for them are perfect. ;)
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Never knew the bullet light blinked. Is it like that OEM or that's how you're putting it on yours? Either way, I like it. You sure have your work cut out for you in filling in all those gaps I see.
OEM light doesn't blink in that location however on the Fiero wiring harness there isn't a constant hot without the signal. A person could just jump a wire off of the headlights if they wanted but I'm just leaving them the way they are.
Gaps arent as bad as it looks, the fenders aren't bolted to the front bumper yet so the bumper is just sitting there making the gaps look off. And I'm sure they won't be perfect at this point of the build yet either.
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Nice being careful with the lenses just setting them down on a hard surface can put nicks, cracks it them :\
Car looks awesome
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Picked up my windshield yesterday and test fit it also worked on my batwing motors and new digital instrument cluster.
Here is a short video of the cluster, I'm using a 2013 Nexus 7 with the torq pro app and the bluetooth ODB2 reader
Digital Instrument Cluster test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia6_j0vASOE#ws)
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Did you design the dial faces? Looks professional :notworthy
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Quote from USMC: "I'm using a 2013 Nexus 7 with the torq pro app and the bluetooth ODB2 reader"
I think that he's using a thingy gizmo and holding it up in front of his steering wheel. ::scratch
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Quote from USMC: "I'm using a 2013 Nexus 7 with the torq pro app and the bluetooth ODB2 reader"
I think that he's using a thingy gizmo and holding it up in front of his steering wheel. ::scratch
The first few pictures are of the different screen designs that I made, the last 2 are showing the size in relation to where you would be sitting in the car and how visible it would be. This isn't something I intend on running forever however it is the fastest thing I could come up with to monitor everything until I can make a custom "replica" cluster like the OE Murci. Also I might add this is FAR from finished, the shark mouth and everything still needs to be finished, the Tablet is just sitting there.
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I would actually prefer a modern cluster in a murcielago rather than replicating it. I think that will look nice once it's made to look like it should be there. I can picture it, I like the removable feature.
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That's pretty cool Dustin! ::headbang
Chris
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Car looks awesome! What windshield did
You use?
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Thanks for all the words of encouragement! I know this isn't OE by any means but it was the quickest and cheapest thing I could do and since I have been driving my car around I need some thing to manage everything before I messed something up.
With the price of android tablets going down to around $75-$100 bucks (must have bluetooth and access to the app store), ebay the cheap OBD2 Bluetooth reader and download the app. You can have full gauges in less then 10 minutes for less the $125 dollars! It was kind of pointless to consider something else right now.
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Your car is looking amazing!!! I can't wait to see it all one color! Is your body a Watson kit? If so how hard was it to get the whole thing?
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I love the digital dash, can I get the links and prices on this setup please?
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With the price of android tablets going down to around $75-$100 bucks (must have bluetooth and access to the app store), ebay the cheap OBD2 Bluetooth reader and download the app. You can have full gauges in less then 10 minutes for less the $125 dollars!
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Just sat and watched the working lights front and rear video , 3 times in a row .... brilliant :drool, totally jealous of the rear lights & fully working headlights. Top job.
Oh, heck , I think I'll watch it again..... :notworthy
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Your headlights came out perfect! Is there any way you can post some pictures of the back to see how you mounted the lights and sealed them up? Thanks bud.
Ya I will send you some pictures, it was no easy task let me tell you!
Car looks awesome! What windshield did
You use?
It's a Maxima windshield that is setup for the G28 windshield opening
Your car is looking amazing!!! I can't wait to see it all one color! Is your body a Watson kit? If so how hard was it to get the whole thing?
Im so ready to see it in one color! The body is a G28 and I visited with John last year and picked up bumpers, side rockers, side scoops and several other items
I love the digital dash, can I get the links and prices on this setup please?
Nexus 7 2013 model ( http://www.walmart.com/ip/Google-Nexus-7-Tablet-with-16GB-Memory-Black/26617790?action=product_interest&action_type=title&placement_id=irs_middle&strategy=PWVUB&visitor_id=56308319247&category=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A1078084&client_guid=df8c6112-8ad7-464d-b132-ff2cb20309db&customer_id_enc=e267382fdd4ee971f86588b2c40ab394&config_id=2&parent_item_id=21907347&guid=d00eed16-dc16-4eed-90b9-a6d9a0c5b6d1&bucket_id=irsbucketdefault&findingMethod=p13n (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Google-Nexus-7-Tablet-with-16GB-Memory-Black/26617790?action=product_interest&action_type=title&placement_id=irs_middle&strategy=PWVUB&visitor_id=56308319247&category=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A1078084&client_guid=df8c6112-8ad7-464d-b132-ff2cb20309db&customer_id_enc=e267382fdd4ee971f86588b2c40ab394&config_id=2&parent_item_id=21907347&guid=d00eed16-dc16-4eed-90b9-a6d9a0c5b6d1&bucket_id=irsbucketdefault&findingMethod=p13n) )
Bluetooth OBD2 ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/251343040617?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/251343040617?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649) )
Torque pro App ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.prowl.torque&hl=en (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.prowl.torque&hl=en) )
Just sat and watched the working lights front and rear video , 3 times in a row .... brilliant :drool, totally jealous of the rear lights & fully working headlights. Top job.
Oh, heck , I think I'll watch it again..... :notworthy
Thank you String and that means a lot coming from you, you have helped out many members :noteworthy and for you to enjoy that video makes me happy ::beers !
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Ive been working on modifying my "shark mouth" to accept the digital gauges. Ive only worked on it for about 45 min but here are some pictures to show what I am going for.
The black square is a magnet/wireless charger that they just came out with for the Nexus 7. That holds the tablet in place, keeps it charged and makes it easily removable if needed.
I know it looks kinda goofy with the grey back ground but I'm either going to put a black lexan back ground or paint the whole shark mouth in the OEM type rubber coating that Lamborghini uses on the "shark mouths"
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Pulled the dirty car out to let it sunbathe while I cleaned the shop out earlier this week.
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Ordered these little Hood adjuster plunger things from Lamborghini in Palm Beach, all 4 were 30 dollars shipped! $10 dollars was the flat rate, If i would have thought I would have ordered a bunch more ::duh anyway here is what they look like. They go on all the Audi cars, Gallardo's, Murci's, etc
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Haven't made much progress (story of my life zzz:) ) This weekend I messed with the wiper assembly a little, it is all mounted with brackets, etc. Only draw back that I can see is I will need to run a remote brake reservoir kit to clear the articulating arm. Here is how it looks.
Also ordered my back glass.
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Ordered these little Hood adjuster plunger things from Lamborghini in Palm Beach, all 4 were 30 dollars shipped! $10 dollars was the flat rate, If i would have thought I would have ordered a bunch more ::duh anyway here is what they look like. They go on all the Audi cars, Gallardo's, Murci's, etc
The car is looking great man!
Hey, did those Top Ramen noodles come free with the hood bumpers? ;)
So I assume the hood actually needs 4 of these? I thought it only needed two. ::scratch
Thanks for the info on these. I have confirmed they are found on the '07 to '09 Audi Q7. I have added them to my Off-the-Shelf Parts for the Murcielago (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=1516.0) post. Anyone know if these same bumpers are used on the Aventador? I wouldn't be surprised.
Mike
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Thanks Pines! I guess i missed the noodles (but the budget on this car has me eating these agin like in back in college :LL: ) No the hood filler piece only needs 2 I just ordered 4 because shipping was the same no matter how many I ordered I wish I would have ordered about a dozen of them!
Glad you found them elsewhere, it would be easier to get them form a Audi dealer then calling the Lambo dealerships!
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Spent all morning reading through your entire build, Geash!!! Lots of good stuff in there! Is there away you can come up with an abridged version ::tongue ? But seriously you most certainly have done a world of good in getting a lot of parts sourced and replicated which will make my build that much more easier and enjoyable! I'll be surfing back through this off and on! Keep up the great work!!!
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Thanks Purple 670, I hope my build helps some people. I really need to update it, been a while. My goal was to fix and replace all the junk parts of the g28 body and make OE parts more available, unfortunately I'm not good at mold making so Ive outsourced the original parts that I bought to other forum members like Tex that has been amazing at making parts for all the forum members! I don't make copies made of other peoples parts just out of respect, but I will give out the sources to where the copied parts I bought are available.
Ive recently got the batwings all functional and working like the OEM Murci. Other then that its really been too cold for fiberglass work and I'm waiting people to get caught up so I can get more parts in to finnish it up! I won't be hitting my deadline of spring finish, prob be fall now :'(
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I hear ya there fella! I find myself spending more time and money trying to heat my garage then I do on buying parts or getting things done!!! We had a negative 30+ degree windchill the other day!!! Frustrating as heck!!! >:(
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Not much progress being made but fixing to get started hard in the next few weeks and hopefully finnish it up this year.
Thanks to Autopro for saving me nearly $100 bucks on parts! I want to pass this along, today I placed a order through White Racing Products after comparing prices from Lambostuff. White Racing products was $100 bucks cheaper on a $420 dollar order! Couldn't believe it, I just want to pass this along to shop around there are some decent prices out there.
Here are the 2 exact same orders from 2 different venders
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Last week I visited with Chris and Alan had a great time, wish I could have stayed longer. However I did pick up a ton of sweet parts from Chris and Alan both! Im so excited, can't wait to show off what all I got.
The only progress I have made lately other then finishing up all my small purchases is getting the batwings functional. I still need to fix the batwing sides and clean everything up but they work and they are strong, there will be zero movement when they are up or down. They seem a little noisy but the car is in the shop so everything seems loud in there and also the motor isn't running. Ill shoot a better video later!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5Xm02F87WQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5Xm02F87WQ)
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I see no issues :D great work!
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Dustin…
They look GREAT!
Smooth and even opening. Can't ask for more than that.
I had some motor drives sound a little noisy. All I had to do was open up the gear drive and clean and lube with some grease. That quieted it right down.
Nice work!
RT
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Very nice Sir!!! I've been patiently waiting for some updates from yourself, now that it's a little warmer hopefully they will be more frequent! Once again Nice!!! ::salute
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I sure hope my batwings come out as nice as yours. What type of switch are you using to control them?
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Pedro any parts yet from Watson?
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I was wondering if Watson still does body part? How would I go about getting in touch with him. Thanks
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have bodies and oem parts
you need?
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I was wondering if Watson still does body part? How would I go about getting in touch with him. Thanks
It seems like Watson may not be in the game any longer. BatBuilder has acquired his molds: http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=95.msg17773#msg17773 (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=95.msg17773#msg17773)
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Son of a gun.
Watson still owed me the back half of the car. I am furious.
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Dustin
What wiper are you using?
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Adrian it is out of a BMW Ill have to go back and look for sure ::beers
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Ok im not posting this on a seperate thread but I do want anybody to know in a couple days I will be ordering G28 door glass if anybody is interested let me know ASAP. I can't wait a couple weeks so payments will need to be made ASAP. PM me with any questions. This is the same glass Murci-Me sells. I'm not trying to make a dime on this I just want this to be a quick and easy deal for those of you that don't want to mess around. ::wave
Dustin
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Slowly easing back into my build here lately. I have been selling a bunch of cars and boats I have acquired over the winter to buy another house so things have been slow on the build. I did get all of my order in from White Racing. In the next month I should be back into full swing on the home run stretch on the build. Im still waiting on final parts from John Watson hopefully he will be coming through for me soon ::counfused Just a small update...
I ordered the older style Murci window switches and they sent me the new LP640 style which won't work in my switch panel. So I ordered the correct ones yesterday.
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OK well pulled the car back into the shop for hopefully the final push to get it finished. Still waiting on parts from Frank (supposed to have been shipped?), John Watson (parts are shipping Monday the 19th) and Murci Me (parts will ship wednesday the 21st) , hopefully they will all come through and if not we will all know what there word means in the future.
Continuing on, last night I wired up my switch panel and got my e-gear and batwings all working as they should. Next week the car is going to my friend Kelly Hayes from Italian Designs he lives about 45 min from me. He has build several pretty famous Replica Diablo's like the Orange Crush car, John Cena's Diablo and several more. I have recruited him to assist me in finishing the car, he has a 4 month window open to where we can hopefully complete the build. With all of that being said I hope too have some major updates coming soon!
The switch panel buttons will be hidden by button covers that a certain somebody is working on, they will be painted black and have the stencil on them to look original, also the door locks don't go there that is all I had at the time to use for mock up. Setup is all pretty basic, just cut strap and panel bonded it to the back of the switch panel, drilled holes for switches, soldered wires and heat shrink to keep the connectors from contacting each other. as mentioned above the buttons will be covered by the original looking button covers. FYI the pictures of the switch panel isn't the one Frank said he sent this is one that I purchased from Alan due to needing to get this wired up.
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Nice!
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Looking at the wiring under your switch panel there was only one thing I could think of:
IT'S THE BLUE WIRE!!!! DON'T CUT THE RED WIRE!!!!!
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I'm getting one of those consoles from Alan this week, I am very excited. Now that you have this up it's going to make it much easier to put this together. Do you know where you are getting the stencils for the buttons?
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I'm getting one of those consoles from Alan this week, I am very excited. Now that you have this up it's going to make it much easier to put this together. Do you know where you are getting the stencils for the buttons?
I have an idea but noting in stone yet ::study
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Lots of things happening with the build just not much to show. Seems like once you get through all the big hurdles of getting the chassis stretched to the correct length and widened to the correct with and the body mounted for the last time and its running and driving, the little things start taking up so much time. I recently met up with a well known fellow builder in the Diablo world and he is going to be assisting me and coaching me through the rest of the build. I pulled my car up there a couple of weeks ago and have been meeting with him weekly working on the car. He has 1 Diablo he is finishing up for a guy and let me tell you it is NICE! Has a supercharged LS in it, just amazing, almost ready for paint.
I also received a few parts from Frank in the mail last week, all look pretty good, still missing the airbag cover for the steering wheel but that will ship soon. Talked to Mike Chase (murci-Me) and my door cards will ship this week, they are finished and John has all the parts done I ordered, although I did not order many parts they will need to be shipped freight and shipping is becoming an issue.
Here are a few pictures of what I have what has been done and the big updates should start coming in in the next month. I am really shooting to have the car completed by this fall. Thanks for all the followers and PM's always good to keep motivation through the slow times. ::salute
Dustin
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Here are some shots of the over head map lights and sunglass holder.
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Your car is looking Great! Keep up the awesome work.
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Visited Kelly sunday and worked for a few hours on the car while he is still finishing up on the BAD A$$ Diablo. Got a little bit done, I purchased a case of windshield urethane and started to seal all the gaps in the cab of the car. Worked a little on cutting and fitting the 3rd brake light (forgot to take the pic of it installed), test fit the fuel door bucket from the eclipse. The fuel door will actually mount from behind so you don't see the holes, etc. It will have a fit and Finnish just like original. Really hitting the rear of the car hard, getting the hatch and body lines all lined up, grills to fit with mounting points, bumper fitting as it should. Making progress but as stated before just not much to show after the major components are all on the car and functional...
Thanks to LP670Mike I ordered the quarter glass from the Scion so I don't have to use the lexan. That was a great find, glad to see members out turning a new page on finding good replacement parts! Big thanks for that ::salute :notworthy
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Awesome progress!
Just noticed that your bat wings come down into the quarters further than a normal G28. Did you make this mod or was it already changed on the body you bought?
Also, what is the width and length of the trailer you used to haul your car? I borrowed my buddies trailer a couple of months ago and my car barely fit onto the trailer width wise. I'm considering buying a trailer this month and yours appears to hold the car well.
Chris
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I modified the bat wings and opening so they appeared to be more OEM looking. I also have a set of OEM batwing sides coming in the mail soon so the sides will fit much tighter against the body. As for the trailer, it pretty much sucked to fit the car on it with the side rockers on, I couldn't fit the car all the way on it without the rockers scraping. I had less then a inch cap on each side from touching the fenders. I wouldn't suggest hauling it vary far or fast like this! the trailer had quite a bit of wag in it going down the highway since all the weight was behind the axles 888o I don't have a suggestion on what trailer to buy unfortunately. I plan on just driving it home when I bring it back ::headband ::rocker !!!
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Here is some work I've been doing on the plenums and mounting the OE throttle bodies. I still need to have a script cut and have the aluminum fins attached.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcDKGYzZDUU&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcDKGYzZDUU#)]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcDKGYzZDUU&feature=youtu.be
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I paid $70 to haul my car home just recently, a lot just to tow it 10 miles but a roll back is all I could think of that it would fit on and no hassle at all. I'm happy to be able to work on it again though so it was worth it :)
Your car is really looking like a murcie, awesome
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When I moved to the island the only way to fit the car was to load it into a 5 ton, used the rear lift on the back wheels and I have a portable forklift for the front, with a helper we lifted both ends at once like an elevator and in all of 6 minutes the car was loaded, reverse process had it off in around 10 minutes, (gravity made things a little interesting coming off at the new place)
Around here unless you build a trailer there doesn't seem to be anything to rent that will fit the width of the wheels and rockers
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Is that soda blasting or sand blasting you are doing in the video?
Car looks amazing!
Mike
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Pines its actually some fine, wore out sand... It works great on aluminum but doesn't do so well on rusty metal.
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if you can get cheap 50lb bags of play sand, I thought it worked decent
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Been working on the plenum and this is so far what I've came up with.
Also been doing a little work on different areas if you have a G28 you know the area below the tail light on the driver side (where the grill goes) is smaller then the passenger side that is all getting reworked and the rockers got 1" trimmed off of them to keep the fender gap consistent. Ill keep the updates coming as I get stuff done ::beers
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Looking good. What black paint are you using on the plenum?
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Looking good. What black paint are you using on the plenum?
I just used duplicator bedliner paint out of a spray can..
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Still working on my motor cover. Purple SV670 SV was kind enough to send me some Lamborghini scripts that are amazing and really made them look good! They still need quite a bit of filler added to fill the gaps and sanded, then another coat of paint before they are finished. I also need to move one of the aluminum fins, the gap is off on it and it bothers me >:(
The second set of photos was us messing around with a Diablo wing to see how it looked on the car...
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Looking good. I kinda like the diablo wing!
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looking good, not to much of a fan of the wing but to each is own. I really like those OEM pieces
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Finally getting somewhere with the plenums. My fuel rail cover should be here this week sometime and I can start mounting everything down and making linkages and making it look real and functional. ::wave
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Here are the last few pictures, they still need a little touch up but getting really close... ::salute
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Here is the final result of the engine cover... Still need to make the mounting hardware... I've been really busy latley and haven't had time to post much or be in the Clone. I'll answer PM's just as soon as I get a break
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Here are a few pictures of the original copied batwing sides I got from Autopro! Let me tell you these are super nice and just need to be shortened about 1" to fit the G28 body's perfect! Pictures are hard to tell since I have the sides just sitting there but I'm trying to show how well they fit the contour of my g28 body... I do believe he will be selling a few of these sets so PM him for pricing details!
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My Door cards finally arrived from Murci-Me these are the modified original ones to fit the g28 door openings and the same ones he has on his YouTube video
OEM style door cards for G28's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV2DpzqQzqI#)
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:drool WoWZa!!! :drool Those are some nice looking batwings! I'll have to see if I can't get my hands on a set of those!!! ::thumbup
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i need some door cards like that a is he still making them
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Love the progress on your car buddy. I am really glad that the batwing sides worked out so well for you.
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Very nice parts! And the engine cover turned out awesome! All that effort to make the plenums right was worth it. They look OE now.
::K ::K
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i need some door cards like that a is he still making them
I'm not sure if he is or not. I ordered these back in January and last I heard he wasn't making parts any longer but you know how people are maybe he was just telling me that! Haha I would still message him and ask.
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I finally finished up the engine cover with the exception of the small vacuum things that go on the side of the plenum in between the throttle bodies... It's all one piece and I am duplicating the 6.2 motor. The complete motor cover will be on a actuator so I can lift it if needed to work on the SC3800 under it.
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Outstanding work! ::K ::K
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Just perfect!
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thats impressive :notworthy. did anyone ever use a Sound Racer and rear mounted loud speakers work?
i figured it would be too hard be loud enough to drown out the cars orignal engine, or too performance robbing if you managed to get the exhaust quite enough.
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Where did you get the engine cover/facade ?
It looks great - would love to get one!
Thanks :)
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I don't want to hijack this thread but I wanted to make a quick comment on the SoundRacer suggestion. Some time ago, I laughed when I saw this suggestion and I never looked into it but after seeing the above question, I decided to check it out. I am actually very impressed. SoundRacer has come out with a unit for electric vehicles that is a little more advanced than their cigarette lighter version. If installed correctly, it may actually work quite well.
http://eveess.com/ (http://eveess.com/)
SoundRacer for electric vehicles, RC car sound demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc3AFlaSa2o#ws)
SoundRacer V10 - sunet de Lamborghini Gallardo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GC8SJCRAVE#)
SoundRacer V12 Ferrari sound (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZwwYXNzgM#)
Too bad they don't have a Lamborghini V12!
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Why would I buy an electronic device to make my car sound like it already does?
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lucky you. :)
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Yeah, I noticed that too. They did say in the comments they have gone from 2 magnets to 4 on the sensor in an effort to avoid the delay. Who knows how well it works but it is interesting.
In the end, it is just a bit of fun. You really won't fool anyone that you have a V12 under the hood (including yourself) and you wouldn't want to drive with it on all the time. I may get one to play with just for grins.
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That sound racer thing sounds cool I just don't know how it would sound outside the car or speakers etc. I do really like how my car sounds now because the supercharger really kills the exhaust note anyway but it would be cool to have a light sound in the engine compartment just not overwhelming or fake. Thanks for the info Pines!
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Sir, on my S/C with Murcie muffing when Idles (900) you can hardly hear anything, but go to over 13-and up it's a Muzika . not a symphony but more or less Heavy Metal. ::rocker
a little different then Hot rods , reminds me bit of the new Hell Cat Challenger. Look up Jay Lenos Garage
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Random pictures from tonight...
First 2 are the upper door's copy'd off a OE car and how they fit on the g28 doors... The second 2 pictures are of Murci-Me's door glass sitting in the OE opening which is pretty close it will just need to be slightly angled to fit correctly which is no big deal
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Few more of the engine cover and more random stuff...
The engine cover will actually sit about 2- 2 1/2" lower
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Have no idea why the pictures are sideways and upside down. I'll fix them tomorrow
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WoWzA!!! Looks great! You'll be done in no time! :drool
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I have a set of Watson outer door skins for sale if anyone is interested in using the tops of the door skin with the G28 lowers like Dustin did? I might be nice if someone did this one and splashed the completed skins as an option for others.
$300 for the pair plus shipping if anyone wants them. SOLD
Thanks,
Chrsi
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Sold!!!! I'll pay you today along with everything else
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A u don't have any door cards
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A u don't have any door cards
Oh yes I do....!
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The oem style
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Send me a pic to my email ricsigue@yahoo.com
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The g28 door opening won't change so my inner door will remain the same and my modified door cards Murci Me made me will still fit... The complete OE outer doors will just need trimmed to fit the outer g28 opening. The G28 outer doors among a few other things are by far the worst problem on the G28 bodies since the molds have flattened out over the years of use and the upper inner and outer doors actually push out several inches on my car. This will allow a nice snug fit with the window frame installed and will also allow me to run my new OEM mirrors I'm getting from Auto!!! I'm super excited about this. Once the doors are on and my rear bumper gets here things should start moving pretty quick.
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I talk to m me an he said his not makeing them any more I need some
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Beautiful man, that engine really looks OEM now.
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Ive been doing a little more work lately on the car. I have received quite a few pieces in the mail from Autopro and let me tell you everything he does is top notch! I received the new mirror base in and it isn't just a some fiberglass and resin, its made out of some sort composite or plastic, its so strong its insane, the work inside and out is phenomenal! I also purchased a bunch of parts from NoBull and they should be here soon starting with the outer door skins. Im really ready to get the doors on and windows working. Kelly prides himself on doing the doors so that is exciting!
In these pictures I am installing my OEM fuel door into a splashed Murci sail panel and graphing it into the G28 sail panel on the driver side.
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Here is a few pictures filling in the factory fuel hole and work on the bat wings. Sunday I am going to attach the OE sides on the wings and going to smooth out the back sides of the wings to look more original.
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I'm glad you liked the mirror base!
What is that black stuff they used to bond that fuel door panel in place?
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I'm glad you liked the mirror base!
What is that black stuff they used to bond that fuel door panel in place?
It's sims panel bond adhesive. Used it to attach the part to the body until we can come back and glass it in from the rear. The excess on top will be sanded off and smoothed down then a little filler added as needed. Shouldn't need much as bad as it looks it's pretty flush that's what I tried to show in the side picture there.
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Looking swell! Is there a special tool required for the panel bond adhesive? Or is it kind of like bondo, mix and apply?
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Yes there is a special gun used for it they come with tips that mix the material but I usually just squirt it on a mixing board and use a spreader to mix it up. Seems like you waste so much in the mixing tip and the stuff we were using has a 60 second working time so you would be switching tips quite often! Texas is the pro with this stuff he learned me everything I know about it!
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This weekend my doors came in from No Bull and wow they are nice!!! We did a little dry fit and they wont require much trimming to fit very well. Also finishing up on the batwings and getting them finished inside and out. All they will require is some miner mud filling and sanding for them to be completely finished... Well, pictures speak louder then words so this is what ive get this week!
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parts mean progress!!!!!
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I haven't done much work over the week, mostly just research. I also have on order both left and right complete door handles, a pair of damaged OEM mirrors for the internals to fit on Autopro's mirrors & some motor trim pieces. I found the rear wing arches I plan on going with to mount to the LP670 wing. That's bout it this week ::thumbup
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I like the look of the 670 wing on the 640 ::thumbup
did you give any thought to getting the wing struts from inspire composites. I am pretty sure that you could modify them to mount the sv wing on your car. If you want any measurement I can measure the ones I have from him. Your build is looking awesome!
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Mike Didn't think about that I'll pm him and see if he will separate that from the complete kit. Ill still need to modify them but it should give me a starting point!
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I really like the way that wing looks on the 640 also. I would love my car to look like that, now only to go and find a wing :LL:
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Here are some rough measurements ::thumbup
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Finished up the batwings and the windshield trim piece needless to say everything will need final body work. Most of you may not be able to tell the difference but these are the updated OE sides I received from Autopro. They fit much better and tighter against the body when the wings are up feeding a better flow of air to the radiators.
I have also ordered several other items that should be here soon from different venders. After this next large batch of items arrive, I'm thinking, I finally have almost everything inside and out to finish my car other then carpet and Paint! That doesn't mean it should be done anytime soon but my wallet should feel much better in the coming months!
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Got my doors trimmed up and here is how they fit on the G28 body... The only major change will be to the 1/4 glass opening it will need to be moved back to the OE location.
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I don't have much to update, the doors are being done as we speak and lots of bodywork being done. I ordered a 670 wing from Inspire and it showed up, It looks really good and has the correct shape but will take lots of work to make it strong enough and make mounting points, which for the price what I expected...
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Slow on the updates but here are some updated pictures. The front end is all done, gaps are good, latches installed, pretty much ready for primer, the rear of the car is coming along nicely and is almost ready for primer. Since I am using the OE size doors the B pillar area needed to be moved back about an inch to inch and half. The hood latch we went with on the front is from an Audi and the rear deck lid latch is from a Honda. We are remaking the inner doors for the G28 body since we all know how bad they suck! Pretty much other then that the body work will be close to done and the whole car will be in full high build primer by Tuesday...
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Here is us molding some of the inner door structure...
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That is looking so nice, I imagine you can't wait to see it all one single color, I know I can't ::toothy
You are doing some fine work on that car, you are very close to being finished there buddy!
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Hi Dustin,
I posted in 2013 with regards the Arduino / JRK setup. Just as a quick reminder, I've been using a JRK & linear actuator since 2011 - but using an analogue based input. I'm looking to finally convert to a digital setting.
A few quick questions:
1) Have you made any changes to the Arduino sketch you posted?
2) What have been your experiences after a couple of years use in terms of reliability? (mostly arduino based if that makes sense)
3) Was there a specification choice that made the Arduino Mega the better option over something like the Uno or similar?
Good to see BTW your project again. That's a lot of work, and I like the attention to detail you apply. I've been making a custom (CNC based) dashboard for my VW T5 camper, and I know there must be times when you may question the time it takes...
Regards,
Anthony
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Gilbo I haven't driven it much, car is still being finished. The only thing I will end up changing is pulling the paddles back for like 2 seconds to go into neutral like original and having the car go into park instead of neutral when it looses power (ie starting the car) Other then that seems to be working just fine! Had lots of complements on it when people see it work!
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Thanks Dustin,
Will go ahead with the change to digital.
Like the idea of using the paddles to enter neutral. I guess 2 secs should stop that happening by accident ...on the other hand 2.5??...
Thanks again for your response.
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It has been a super long time since I have updated my thread, so over the next few days I will be playing catchup! ::wave
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To start off building 2 cars really takes the wind out of your sails and the weight out of your wallet so between building a car, rebuilding a 06 Murci, beer and sleep I've managed to get some things done!
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Got a chance to drive it about 15 miles and get a feel of how it drove and what kind of power it is going to have.
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Here is how I made the front trunk space & the other car
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And here is my door glass build… ::beers
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Continued on the windows… I used the factory Fiero window regulators and they worked perfect. The door glass I used were Mike (murci-me') Glass made for the g28 so they didn't fit the factory door opening quite perfect but I made due..
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Few more before we sealed up and put the outer doors on the inner
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Getting it all taped up fixing to see it in 1 color for the first time in 3 years!
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Continued….
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Last few then the ending story…..
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Way to load a trailer! Glad you are posting again. Now just what is this ending story you speak of ?
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This is absolutely beautiful. Congrats!!!!
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Hey Dustin your car is coming along very nicely bro!! it was really good to meet you at mikes!!
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Way to load a trailer! Glad you are posting again. Now just what is this ending story you speak of ?
Yes it was about the only way to load it since it is so low, worked perfect for anyone having to load there car! I will get the the ending story in my my next post… :sosad
This is absolutely beautiful. Congrats!!!!
Thank you! I hope to see it in color one day!
Hey Dustin your car is coming along very nicely bro!! it was really good to meet you at mikes!!
Sam it was really all my pleasure meeting you and all the other guys! Im defiantly looking forward to coming again next year and hopefully bring my car if its complete!
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So the story is I got offered some money and a few things in trade (a set LP640 tail lights, Glass headlight lenses and front bumper for my 06 Murci) from forum member Batbuilder and decided to sell him the car. I delivered the car the first of August and had a chance to catch a Lambo meet at Murci-Me's house and meet several forum members! Made it down to Tijuana to visit Autopro and see his build first hand. It was quite the trip seeing everyone! ::LAMBO
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::LAMBO2 Here are more from the meet and greet! ::LAMBO2
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Next stop was Victor's in Hollywood to pick up parts and get my hands dirty on some of his cars...
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Pictures from Vitcor's continued... :notworthy
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Is Victor, Dr. Murci ?
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Is Victor, Dr. Murci ?
Yes
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Hey can I get your number I would like Toby one of your cars
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hey, can I have ur email? I'm considering get one from you.
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Hey can I get your number I would like Toby one of your cars
hey, can I have ur email? I'm considering get one from you.
I do not build cars im sorry... This build was my first and decided to sell it to fund my original Murcielago build.