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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #176 on: August 12, 2017, 06:53:53 PM »
Wow that's some serious overkill on that frame!!! Remember, you don't want to make it to strong, it should absorb the impact and crumple, not transfer it to the main frame and rack the whole chassis.

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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #175 on: August 12, 2017, 09:39:37 AM »
Made some progress on the frame for the front end, until my welder started bird nesting  >:(  Dont know if it needs a new liner or what..it is old.  ::toothy

The steel frame will have another section that will be just a tad lower than the fiberglass bumper, hopefully that will stop the repaired bumper from getting damaged







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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #174 on: August 12, 2017, 09:13:59 AM »
Cut the front bumper off, shout out to Murci Me for the pointers and drawings.

With the bumper off there will be some time spent fixing the cracks and scrapes as well as the sag.



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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #173 on: August 07, 2017, 06:47:30 PM »
got the revised Arruat upper strut bracket from my friend  ::toothy  So now the passenger side is installed :)

The Qa1 coil over instructions say use anti seize compound on the threads, but that seems like it will collect a lot of road dirt?

Waiting for the QA1 bearings.

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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #172 on: August 07, 2017, 12:48:46 PM »
Looking at the front bumper on the REDO it still has the sag.  Will have to take out some steel tubing that has been bonded to the fiber glass fender well to fix the sag.

Looked at Nickmmkk's build, Thanks for the pictures! It should help.  Is the goal to get the rockers in line with the front bumper?

Jets303 post on bumper sag fix ... photo bucket issue http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=151.msg1711#msg1711
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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #171 on: August 07, 2017, 12:40:25 PM »
Get this saw, I bought one last month.
https://www.sawblade.com/trajan700.cfm

Would buy if I didnt already order up a blade for the compound saw.
Thanks!

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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #170 on: August 05, 2017, 11:35:32 PM »
Get this saw, I bought one last month.
https://www.sawblade.com/trajan700.cfm

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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #169 on: August 05, 2017, 10:37:29 PM »
got started cutting the steel for the REDO front bumper.

Using rectangle tube that has the same dimensions as the fiero front frame.  The wall thickness is 3/16.

Started cutting the pieces, but need to get a new saw blade. One saw for cutting length, but the angle saw is great!  Borrowed from a friend.  A real time saver!!

The fiero frame wasn't cut evenly at the ends.  Using a tool to get the angle as both sides are different.
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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #168 on: August 05, 2017, 10:29:09 PM »
The front bumper needed to come out and be beefed up.

It consisted of a 2x2 coming out from the frame, a 1/8 by 4 inch for the front of the bumper ...tack welded in the center. and some misc, 1/2 and 3/4 inch tubing.

Looked at jets303 set up and it will solve the lack of weight in the front end as the car is very tippy, and maybe make me feel safer,

It came out pretty easy.


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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #167 on: August 05, 2017, 09:21:56 PM »
Got back from my trip and installed the driver side Arruat front suspension and brake set up.

First is read the instructions and have a cocktail   :D

I ordered the bearing set up for the QA1 adjustable coil overs.



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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #166 on: August 03, 2017, 12:55:38 PM »
The two lower bolts on that bracket were replaced with longer threaded bolts for my cross brace which connects the two upper shock brackets (RH & LH) together.  Due to limited clearance, I added spacers to reach the support plate which was then welded to the frame rails and then the crossbar was welded to those plates.  (hope this makes sense) ::scratch

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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #165 on: August 02, 2017, 11:02:46 PM »
Modified the drivers bracket and installed it.

Onward!

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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #164 on: August 02, 2017, 07:40:49 PM »
I had a friend who owns a fabrication shop come by and look at the Arruat parts and the car.   After measuring the Drivers and passenger side brackets the passenger side Arruat bracket is off by between 3/16" & 1/8".

the drivers side is doable with very minor modification & Murci Me suggested bolts.

He took the replacement bracket that Arruat sent and is going to fix it and have it back to me Monday. 8)

The basturdized bracket will be a paper weigh.

Onward!!




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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #163 on: August 02, 2017, 11:58:55 AM »
I'm sorry to hear all the problems you are having with these parts. I once considered buying a system from them for my friends car, now I'm glad I didn't!
I remember having a similar problem with bolt holes lining up properly with the NAERC widetrack system I bought, much the same as you are having. I to had to modify the parts to get them to fit correctly, and then ended up trashing both upper control arms they supplied and building a set of my own along with modifying the lowers as well.

Thanks MM!

I just hoping that this is the only issue I have with the Arruat Set up   :o  Had I known then, what I know now, I would have gone in a different direction. Or maybe not even started  :LL:  But I actually enjoy working on this POS... I mean REDO  ::toothy

At this juncture, just want to get the car on  four wheels, so I can work on the A-pillar issue and drivers door,  outside, before the weather turns. ::toothy

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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #162 on: August 02, 2017, 11:53:17 AM »
I mentioned prior that you might loosen the 4 lower attachment bolts to see if that would help with the alignment and I still think that a thin washer inserted between the crossmember and the frame on the front bolts will help with the hole alignment.
(I drool every time I see how nice a job you did on your clean up of the Fiero parts.  Mine were so rusty ::salute ::thumbup)

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thanks 01!!  Every bolt is  loosley bolted. 

For the two washers, not sure how that would help, but I will give it a try... you never know :)

Richard picked up the phone this morning and he thinks he has a solution. 
I am heading out of town with truck an trailer to get my daughter into he apt as she will be starting and internship.  Sooooo, with a 4 hour drive each way I will have time to ponder an think about this problem  :LL:

I do like the idea of cutting the bracket, as suggested by 01.  I will also make the bottom piece thicker to get rid of the gap that is there.

Here is the OEM vs the Arruat .