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Title: wheel hub (bearing) replacement for c4. Looking for integrated wheel speed senso
Post by: Robert on July 29, 2013, 11:53:55 PM
Lambo brothers, does anyone know of a wheel hubs with the same dimension's as the c4 hubs( in regard to rotor location), but with a integrated wheel speed sensor. I am going to use a solid CV axle.   Your help is appreciated!
Title: Re: wheel hub (bearing) replacement for c4. Looking for integrated wheel speed senso
Post by: jdinner on July 30, 2013, 08:13:50 AM
Does your bearing have a 3 bolt or 4 bolt mounting.
If it is three bolt the front wheel bearing from a 2000 Chev S-10 4X4 may fit.
Or the C5 comes with the sensor in it too.

Why are you looking for one with an ABS sensor in it if you don't mind me asking?
Title: Re: wheel hub (bearing) replacement for c4. Looking for integrated wheel speed senso
Post by: Robert on July 30, 2013, 04:37:46 PM
C4 has a 3 bolt mounting pattern. It is crucial that the hub mounting face and the disk mounting face are the same dimension. Abs reluctor needs to be in the hub.
Title: Re: wheel hub (bearing) replacement for c4. Looking for integrated wheel speed senso
Post by: SchulzeA on July 30, 2013, 10:00:28 PM
It appears a c5 rear bearing with sensor will bolt right on to the c4 spindle.  I can measure my c5 bearings if you need the dimensions for comparison.
Title: Re: wheel hub (bearing) replacement for c4. Looking for integrated wheel speed senso
Post by: plans4sale on July 31, 2013, 01:34:50 AM
 If it will help, I can send you an accurate 3d CAD model of the Corvette C5 hub-bearing (no speed sensor) which I meazured from the actual part.
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1064/corvettec52.png (http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1064/corvettec52.png)
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5951/corvettec5.png (http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5951/corvettec5.png)
Title: Re: wheel hub (bearing) replacement for c4. Looking for integrated wheel speed senso
Post by: Robert on July 31, 2013, 01:59:08 AM
It appears a c5 rear bearing with sensor will bolt right on to the c4 spindle.  I can measure my c5 bearings if you need the dimensions for comparison.
That would be great Alan! Thank You!
Title: Re: wheel hub (bearing) replacement for c4. Looking for integrated wheel speed senso
Post by: Robert on July 31, 2013, 02:00:38 AM
If it will help, I can send you an accurate 3d CAD model of the Corvette C5 hub-bearing (no speed sensor) which I meazured from the actual part.
[url]http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1064/corvettec52.png[/url] ([url]http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1064/corvettec52.png[/url])
[url]http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5951/corvettec5.png[/url] ([url]http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5951/corvettec5.png[/url])
Thank you Nice cad.
Title: Re: wheel hub (bearing) replacement for c4. Looking for integrated wheel speed senso
Post by: SchulzeA on August 01, 2013, 11:48:51 PM
Bolt pattern is on a 58mm [2.283"] radius or 116mm [4.567"] diameter bolt circle. The center to center distance is 3.955" hole to hole. The spindle bore must be 91mm (3.583") or larger.
Title: Re: wheel hub (bearing) replacement for c4. Looking for integrated wheel speed senso
Post by: Robert on August 02, 2013, 12:03:14 AM
Thank You!
Title: Re: wheel hub (bearing) replacement for c4. Looking for integrated wheel speed senso
Post by: SchulzeA on August 02, 2013, 01:16:39 AM
 ::beers
Title: Re: wheel hub (bearing) replacement for c4. Looking for integrated wheel speed senso
Post by: 01Lambiero on December 03, 2013, 01:59:14 PM
Robert, why do you want a speed sensor incorporated into your wheel bearings?  The computer would have to be modified for an ABS system to work properly or were you going to use it for the speedo?

Jim
Title: Re: wheel hub (bearing) replacement for c4. Looking for integrated wheel speed senso
Post by: jdinner on December 03, 2013, 08:41:35 PM
It can be used as a speedo sensor for the VDO gauges.
It can also be used to trigger the BMW computer to think it is moving.
Title: Re: wheel hub (bearing) replacement for c4. Looking for integrated wheel speed senso
Post by: Robert on December 03, 2013, 09:15:52 PM
I am going to transplant the entire electrical system from an impala SS. I going with the ls4 drivetrain. I want the abs, and all of the inputs the ecm needs. I am going to try to use the Impala SS bearings, simply reverse the locations. I do need to measure the mounting face to hub face of a c4 bearing and the Impala SS bearing to see what machining may have to be done.
Title: Re: wheel hub (bearing) replacement for c4. Looking for integrated wheel speed senso
Post by: jdinner on December 03, 2013, 09:35:26 PM
That sounds like a big project... Keep me posted!
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Title: Re: wheel hub (bearing) replacement for c4. Looking for integrated wheel speed senso
Post by: 01Lambiero on December 03, 2013, 09:38:14 PM
Then for proper operation of the ABS, you will have to run wheels that have the same circumference as the oem Chevy on all four corners.

Jim
Title: Re: wheel hub (bearing) replacement for c4. Looking for integrated wheel speed senso
Post by: SchulzeA on December 03, 2013, 10:52:39 PM
Then for proper operation of the ABS, you will have to run wheels that have the same circumference as the oem Chevy on all four corners.

Jim

Why would the wheel size effect the abs?
Title: Re: wheel hub (bearing) replacement for c4. Looking for integrated wheel speed senso
Post by: Robert on December 03, 2013, 11:30:03 PM
The stock wheel size is 18".
Title: Re: wheel hub (bearing) replacement for c4. Looking for integrated wheel speed senso
Post by: SchulzeA on December 04, 2013, 12:05:15 AM
I don't see how that will effect it if your tire dia is close to the same. You will most likely need to recalibrate the speedometer anyway which should fix any issue.
Title: Re: wheel hub (bearing) replacement for c4. Looking for integrated wheel speed senso
Post by: 01Lambiero on December 04, 2013, 07:51:05 AM
Are there not two sizes of tires on a Diablo or a Murci?  My rear tires are larger than my fronts even though the wheels are 19" each.  Last I knew, the ABS system senses and compares the rotation of all tires to inform you of a tire that is low on pressure, for traction control, and equalized braking.  Does the Impala have different sized tires?  This would change my opinion too.  I think that ABS is more trouble than it's worth.  My $.02

Jim