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For Sale / Wanted => Replica / Modified Parts For Sale => Topic started by: No Bull on January 12, 2013, 05:51:03 PM
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Hi Guys,
A good friend of mine has agreed to machine a set of quality headlight rings on his CNC. In order to make this worth his while, I've told him that I'll check on the site and see if anyone else is interested in a set. These will be machined individually from aluminum and it's up to you if you want to polish, paint or hydro dip them.
I'm insisting on going with an aluminum set because of the poor quality of the resin sets I've seen out there and I have concerns with long term heat and cooling from the lamps and sun on a resin part.
He is estimating these at around $250 USD for a full set of four (two small and two large) and this price could go down if we find enough members wanting them.
Any interest?
Chris
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I used high temp plastic to make my rings, and they have been on my car for 4 years now without any problems. I think the only advantage of having them in aluminum would be that they wouldn't need to be painted. The plastic I use is rated to 450 degrees, which is well above the heat the projector lamps put out, and the heat from being in direct sun.
I'm just sayin'.............
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I used high temp plastic to make my rings, and they have been on my car for 4 years now without any problems. I think the only advantage of having them in aluminum would be that they wouldn't need to be painted. The plastic I use is rated to 450 degrees, which is well above the heat the projector lamps put out, and the heat from being in direct sun.
I'm just sayin'.............
Mike, did you cast them or machine them? Are you running HID projectors? I just ordered my new projectors that are rated at 9,000 lumen's and I'm suspecting that they'll throw off more heat than a normal bulb. I'm not worried so much about melting anything as I'm worried about any trapped air bubbles in a cast set and eventual warping or cracking. I also figured that spending $250 now for a set machined from aluminum would be a better investment (and give a little extra piece of mind) than paying $150 - $200 for a cast set and dealing with filling and finishing that is normally required.
It's good to know that a resin set made from the right material works well also. ::thumbup
Chris
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Yes I have HID projectors on my car, and the rings are fine. I'm not trying to talk you out of the aluminum, Lambo uses that as well and thats the best possible ring. The resin I use though is not the cheap FastCast that CKI and Rob/Joe use for their parts, its much more heat resistant and stable when cured.
I've seen the rings that KI put out, and your right they are pretty bad. Mine are moulded straight from the OEM piece, not like others that are a 3rd or 4th generation cast.
I've sent some out to a few members here, and I think theres pics of them somewhere on a thread.
(Go Ravens!)
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Yes I have HID projectors on my car, and the rings are fine. I'm not trying to talk you out of the aluminum, Lambo uses that as well and thats the best possible ring. The resin I use though is not the cheap FastCast that CKI and Rob/Joe use for their parts, its much more heat resistant and stable when cured.
I've seen the rings that KI put out, and your right they are pretty bad. Mine are moulded straight from the OEM piece, not like others that are a 3rd or 4th generation cast.
I've sent some out to a few members here, and I think theres pics of them somewhere on a thread.
(Go Ravens!)
Are you still offering them for sale and if so how much are you asking for the set of four? For the members that needed them, this would give them choice between quality cast or machined.
Thanks for sharing Mike ::thumbup
Chris
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Yes, they are $30 for the set of 4 plus shipping, usually $7 in a flat rate box.
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That sounds like a great value ::thumbup
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I would like aluminum, but at that price I'll take four. One of mine is broken already. Just tell me where to send the money.
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Guys, if you are interested in the aluminum set, please send me a PM and let me know that you'd be in for a future set at $250.
If you are interested in a set from Mike, please PM him to place an order.
Thanks,
Chris
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Hi,
Yes - very interested . Question , would they be to original specs in there entirety or would , for instance the lower lug be missing ? .
Thanks
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Hi,
Yes - very interested . Question , would they be to original specs in there entirety or would , for instance the lower lug be missing ? .
Thanks
Is there a preference? I'm assuming you might want the lower lug gone so they fit inside the replica buckets or will fit a larger projector?
Thanks,
Chris
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I would actually want the lower mounting lug , I am using original spec HID lights so would want all mounts and correct dimensions.
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Hi guys where do you actually get the projection headlights for those rings?
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I would actually want the lower mounting lug , I am using original spec HID lights so would want all mounts and correct dimensions.
This shouldn't be a problem and I'll post some CAD drawings with dimensions as soon as he has some ready.
Thanks,
Chris
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Hi guys where do you actually get the projection headlights for those rings?
I bought mine from a friend who has a small business that deals in custom headlights and other accessories. The premium set I bought isn't cheap and they set me back nearly $550 but included the following:
1. 2 x small HID projectors with shutters
2. 2 x medium HID projectors with shutters
3. 2 x 55w ballast
4. Wiring harness set
Here is a 35watt kit on EBay (minus what appears to be 2 x medium projectors) -
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Retrofit-Package-35W-Micro-Mini-Bi-xenon-Projector-Slim-HID-Ballast-H1-kit-/181046521192?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a2736ad68&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Retrofit-Package-35W-Micro-Mini-Bi-xenon-Projector-Slim-HID-Ballast-H1-kit-/181046521192?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a2736ad68&vxp=mtr)
Let me know if anyone is interested in ordering a set from my friend (please send a PM).
Chris
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Thx for the reply. If not too much hassle, could you post a pic of your lights or are the the same as on the ebay listing?
regards
jackal
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Thx for the reply. If not too much hassle, could you post a pic of your lights or are the the same as on the ebay listing?
regards
jackal
Not a problem and I'll snap a couple pictures when they come in (about two weeks delivery).
Thanks,
Chris
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This shouldn't be a problem and I'll post some CAD drawings with dimensions as soon as he has some ready.
Thanks,
Chris
I do have CAD drawings I have made [Metric of course] if you would like them. :)
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This shouldn't be a problem and I'll post some CAD drawings with dimensions as soon as he has some ready.
Thanks,
Chris
I do have CAD drawings I have made [Metric of course] if you would like them. :)
Absolutely... please send them over to me.
I'll send you my email address in a PM.
Chris
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::headbang The first of the headlight rings are getting cut out tonight and I should have some pictures really soon.
Chris
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The small rings where cut yesterday and I have some pictures to share. There are several tool changes involved and he had to make a couple fixtures to hold the parts in the multi-stage machining process. We stayed up to about 1:00 AM this morning getting them to the stage before an angle can be cut into the lugs and the back side of the ring is carved out. The longer 3rd lug will become a tab that slides into a slot cut in the buckets (just like OEM).
The price is still $250 plus shipping (full set - 2 Large & 2 Small) for anyone that's still seriously interested.
I'm not selling these parts and I'm actually the first customer. In order to make the project as attractive as possible for Jeff (his time and material plus a little profit) I'm trying to help build some orders for him. He's making five sets to start with of which three are already sold.
Next project could be a machined Reventon gas cap and filler system (with filler tube).
Chris
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Amazing works of art.
Good job all around!
I wish I can spare it. I just plopped down about 1200 for door hinges, hatch hinges and right door complete latch assembly.
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The finish surface quality is really nice. ::thumbup Are you adding the taper to the outside? What aluminum did you use?
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It looks wrong though, the holes look to small, and theres no outside taper. The inside bevel looks concave, and why does it have 3 mounting tabs on it ?(the OEM's only have 2), Isnt that gonna make it impossible to mount in the bucket? Theres no inside relief to allow for the body of the lamp either. I'm not knocking them, they just dont seem like they would work though.
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It looks wrong though, the holes look to small, and theres no outside taper. The inside bevel looks concave, and why does it have 3 mounting tabs on it ?(the OEM's only have 2), Isnt that gonna make it impossible to mount in the bucket? Theres no inside relief to allow for the body of the lamp either. I'm not knocking them, they just dont seem like they would work though.
The pictures I posted yesterday are of parts being milled and in process. The insides still need to be milled out to remove the material from the backs, the taper will be added and the holes are simple enough to fix. The pictures are of parts at 1:00 AM in the morning and I just wanted to snap a few shots of them before leaving his shop (about 1.5 hours from me) to show everyone that was waiting for a progress report.
As for the third lug, He intentionally cuts them with the three lugs so he has three lugs to bolt the part down to the fixture he made for positioning and milling. The one lug is longer than the other two (look closely at the lug at the top of the fixture) and that's so the section of the lug that has the bolt going thru it can be cut away just leave a mounting tab that will fit into a slot that you cut into your bucket. One minor difference is that he's not milling in the extra little "barrels" on the backside of the lugs simply because this takes more time and they serve no real benefit to us on our replica buckets.
I'm posting the pictures of the OEM rings below so you can compare to the rings being milled. Be sure to remember to compare the small rings together and not the small ring to the large ring since there are a couple differences other than diameter.
Chris
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"I see" said the blind man, as he picked up a hammer and saw........!
OK, Just making sure ::wave
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"I see" said the blind man, as he picked up a hammer and saw........!
OK, Just making sure ::wave
Yep.. for the five hours that I watched him set up and start these (he had several other hours invested in the program) I sat there with my head tilted to one side and had a glazed look on my face. I've learned just how much thought and planning that goes into a part like this and was a bit surprised by the number of steps, tool changes and fixture work that has gone into them. I'm sure he'll have some totally done soon and we can compare the originals to his.
He's using my buckets which fit your lenses so everything should be about the same for everyone wanting to use them. He also measured my projectors but left a little bit of tolerance for other sized projectors or light sets.
My goal at the end of all this is to publish a parts list for everything needed to build a nice quality set of headlights.
Chris
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Hey brother. I need help with buckets. I need to locate me a pair. Please help.
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Hey brother. I need help with buckets. I need to locate me a pair. Please help.
I have the one set here for my car but I don't have the fiber glass skills needed to pull a set. We have a place in town that specializes in Carbon Fiber and I thought about taking them to him and asking what a set would cost (wouldn't that look awesome?).
I would post something on the parts wanted section and see if someone can pull some for you.
Chris
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You need to ask him if he would be interested in milling AR15 lower recievers. Its totally legal, as long as he only mills them to 80%. Right now (if you can find them) they are going for around $160 each, with waiting lists till September 2013!
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Hey brother. I need help with buckets. I need to locate me a pair. Please help.
I have the one set here for my car but I don't have the fiber glass skills needed to pull a set. We have a place in town that specializes in Carbon Fiber and I thought about taking them to him and asking what a set would cost (wouldn't that look awesome?).
I would post something on the parts wanted section and see if someone can pull some for you.
Chris
Send them to me, i'll make moulds for you N/C.
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http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=637.msg6859;topicseen#msg6859 (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=637.msg6859;topicseen#msg6859)
The small rings are done and now it's onto the larger rings.
Chris
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The tab idea worked out nice. Though the thumb is looking a little rough in the last pic ::counfused lol
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This is on my list of things to get in the next month ::beers they look great... As stated above the thumb could use a little help ::counfused
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Yep.. I smashed my thumb with a hammer the week before. It's back to normal now and I'm using softer hammers. ::counfused
Chris
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I got my rings today. I was trying to decide between another set of plastic ones or these aluminum ones. They weren't cheap, but boy are they nice! They might actually be cheap when taking into account the labor and the machining. If they are ever offered again I can give my full satisfaction for anyone considering them.
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I got my rings today. I was trying to decide between another set of plastic ones or these aluminum ones. They weren't cheap, but boy are they nice! They might actually be cheap when taking into account the labor and the machining. If they are ever offered again I can give my full satisfaction for anyone considering them.
Dratts, I second that! I tried to work with my original set. Didn't go well. I bought another set and made those look OK. But I still didn't like them. I just got my set in as well. They really are amazing pieces. If they should ever produce some more....I would highly recommend them to anyone. The detail is so crisp and the lines are sharp. I am 100% satisfied with them. Really great work Jeff. Thank you so much!
Mitch
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Got a set on order , totally looking forward to them - in Cincinatti at the moment ! , so a transatlantic crossing yet :drool
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The small rings where cut yesterday and I have some pictures to share. There are several tool changes involved and he had to make a couple fixtures to hold the parts in the multi-stage machining process. We stayed up to about 1:00 AM this morning getting them to the stage before an angle can be cut into the lugs and the back side of the ring is carved out. The longer 3rd lug will become a tab that slides into a slot cut in the buckets (just like OEM).
The price is still $250 plus shipping (full set - 2 Large & 2 Small) for anyone that's still seriously interested.
I'm not selling these parts and I'm actually the first customer. In order to make the project as attractive as possible for Jeff (his time and material plus a little profit) I'm trying to help build some orders for him. He's making five sets to start with of which three are already sold.
Next project could be a machined Reventon gas cap and filler system (with filler tube).
Chris
A Reventon gas cap and filler system (with filler tube) would be awesome. Where could I find dimensional drawings/ CAD files?
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SchulzeA may have a 3D model of the Reventon cap.
Also, I got my rings from Chris and let me tell you, they are awesome and a perfect fit! So glad I was able to snag these. They will set my headlights apart as something special.