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Re: 1986 Countach Replica
« Reply #23 on: Today at 01:33:24 AM »
Fellas -

As always appreciate the insight -

Was able to find an 86' Fiero Haynes Service Manual on EBay for next to nothing, great suggestion, I would have never known something of the like existed otherwise.

Lots to work on for a few weeks now, I'll keep this thread up to date as progress is made or challenges come up.

Thank you again!

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Re: 1986 Countach Replica
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2017, 08:54:12 PM »
Sounds like they spliced and lengthened the cables when they lengthened the chassis, and did a poor job of it. $200 will get you two new cables the correct length at Control Cable Inc. 562-949-0455, talk to Greg.

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Re: 1986 Countach Replica
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2017, 12:52:04 PM »
TS -

I was able to get the front latch opened finally, it is an electrical latch however the switch under the bumper appears as though it is not functioning, I was however able to circumvent this by running 12v directly to the switch. The question now is do I try and rewire or simply replace with a mechanical latch, the latter seems more practical. I am going to get a test light though to determine wether it is a faulty switch or feed first, this will influence my decision.

Regarding the wiper issue - this is a bigger can of worms then I was initially expecting...

The car does not have a reservoir... the fluid line that runs from the wiper cuts off just under the hood  :'(

So I am starting from scratch on this endeavour, my first thoughts are:

1. Purchase a used reservoir/pump
2. Mount within interior steel frame
3. Figure out how to wire pump....I have looked fiero at wiring schematics and it appears as though the pump is wired to the wiper motor...does anyone have insight or picture / schematic reference for an 86 fiero? Does not seem as though the physical component of adding the reservoir, pump and line will be difficult...the challenge for me will be the electrical end.

Thanks all!
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See if you can find a diagram for the shift cables online.  Picking up one of those service manuals is a must, it will tell you step by step, it will always come in handy.  Since one cable went, there is a good chance the other may be at the end of its life, so I would suggest you do both, (your their).  Good thing is you now know how to get at both ends hopefully there is access to any cable mounts there may be between the two ends.  Hopefully others building with Fiero's can help.

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Re: 1986 Countach Replica
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2017, 05:09:43 PM »
Fellas,

Sincerely appreciate the wiring diagrams and advice - I expect the washer reservoir will be here mid week and will have time to install next weekend hopefully. Will update along the way.

Progress this weekend:

1. Headliner has been repaired, not in necessarily the most aesthetically pleasing sense but it will now clear BC safety as it is not impeding vision. 3M adhesive spray and steel wool did the trick to remove foam residual from prior liner.

Next up:

1. While taking the car on tour in the parkade we lost ability to shift into all forward gears with only reverse working  :'(...

Initially i believed it to be an issue with the gear shift itself but after disassembly of console itself, this did not appear to be the issue.

I checked the cables through to gear box and low and behold I found the issue, the previous owner had taped a piece of copper tube around cable towards end linkage as I suspect the original broke... with heat when running engine as of recently I believe the tape melted which loosened the band aid repair job... I couldn't believe it.. I had this vehicle inspected by a mechanic in New Brunswick prior to purchase...I would think that this should have been addressed then! Oh well, a few issues will keep me busy I suppose.

Question I'd like to pose to the group:

1. How do I determine wether this is the selector cable or shift cable?
2. Is it possible to replace end component of linkage or does the entire cable need to be stripped out and replaced?
3. If answer to (2) is yes, any insight that can be offered as to proper steps in replacement, linkage seems easy enough but I am sure there are other factors to be aware of.

As always, thank you!!
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Re: 1986 Countach Replica
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2017, 02:13:44 PM »
This is the wiring diagram for the Fiero wiper/washer system.

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Re: 1986 Countach Replica
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2017, 11:24:34 PM »
RT - really appreciate the insight thank you.

I have disconnected the electrical actuator and am in the process of snaking a pull cable through to original hood release switch just under interior dash.

Further progress, I have removed all reminents of previous headliner material and am awaiting receipt of new headliner for mounting.

Also, 86' Fiero washer reservoir and pump are on their way to my door.

Question:

I cannot locate any diagrams as to where and how the hot wire on washer pump connects to washer motor module. Motor and module appear to be stock, would anyone have a diagram or picture reference that would assist me?

Cheers,
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Re: 1986 Countach Replica
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2017, 02:21:42 PM »
Correy7...
As for the front trunk latch, it is up to you if you want an electrical switch or mechanical latch but if you go mechanical, I would mount a pull cable inside the car with its wire and housing snaking their way up to the latch.  That way the car has to be open (unlocked) for anyone to use it.
The washers are usually wired up with the wipers because when you activate the washer you want the wiper to make a swipe or two to clean the windshield.  That is why you see it wired up to the wipers.  The reservoir can be almost anything from any car as long as it fits your space.  They commonly use a small motor pump with just a hot wire and a ground wire.  Simple to hook up.  The motor is usually mounted on the plastic reservoir and you just press the hose that goes to the windshield squirters onto the outlet port.

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Re: 1986 Countach Replica
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2017, 01:33:36 PM »
TS -

I was able to get the front latch opened finally, it is an electrical latch however the switch under the bumper appears as though it is not functioning, I was however able to circumvent this by running 12v directly to the switch. The question now is do I try and rewire or simply replace with a mechanical latch, the latter seems more practical. I am going to get a test light though to determine wether it is a faulty switch or feed first, this will influence my decision.

Regarding the wiper issue - this is a bigger can of worms then I was initially expecting...

The car does not have a reservoir... the fluid line that runs from the wiper cuts off just under the hood  :'(

So I am starting from scratch on this endeavour, my first thoughts are:

1. Purchase a used reservoir/pump
2. Mount within interior steel frame
3. Figure out how to wire pump....I have looked fiero at wiring schematics and it appears as though the pump is wired to the wiper motor...does anyone have insight or picture / schematic reference for an 86 fiero? Does not seem as though the physical component of adding the reservoir, pump and line will be difficult...the challenge for me will be the electrical end.

Thanks all!
SC

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Re: 1986 Countach Replica
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2017, 11:57:24 AM »
01 - success! With a little elbow grease, multiple curse words and a few lucky bounces I was able to remove door cards, remove struts and replace with new 4775's that were easy to order at Lordco (same day). The doors function 100% better than before, I am really impressed! Thank you again for the guidance fellas, saved me many $$ along the way!

Not to mention, the car was missing the key for door locks when it arrived here in Vancouver, the seller did not have a copy, lo and behold the original key must have been forgotten in the door during the build as I found it in a pile of dust in door interior  when replacing the strut ..I was pretty happy about that, one last thing that would have needed to been replaced! I.e lock cylinders

Next up: headliner repair, front latch repair and last but not least , washer fluid pump attention.

See picture for outcome of strut replacements!

Front latch is it no latching closed or you can't open it?

For the washer fluid, think its in the front but you can always follow the nozzel line from the wiper area into the compartment and trace it that way. 

TS

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Re: 1986 Countach Replica
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2017, 07:23:43 AM »
Please note the headliner repair videos in my previous post.
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Re: 1986 Countach Replica
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2017, 03:34:15 PM »
Thanks - that was a late night post, appreciate the rotation  ::thumbup

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Re: 1986 Countach Replica
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2017, 02:26:49 PM »
Owww!  My neck!!!!!  Now, how to fix your headliner (if it has just come unglued from the hard board form).  If the foam on the headliner has deteriorated, it should be removed with a wire brush (very messy) before spraying the adhesive on.  Here are a few youtube videos which may be helpful.  Some have removed the entire headliner board form and others have reglued it without removal.  Have fun. ::bounce ::thumbup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXdS0nBVMZc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DryrSaNm7W4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f91Ht0J45jc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MxxaYgEJ8E

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Re: 1986 Countach Replica
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2017, 01:32:15 AM »
01 - success! With a little elbow grease, multiple curse words and a few lucky bounces I was able to remove door cards, remove struts and replace with new 4775's that were easy to order at Lordco (same day). The doors function 100% better than before, I am really impressed! Thank you again for the guidance fellas, saved me many $$ along the way!

Not to mention, the car was missing the key for door locks when it arrived here in Vancouver, the seller did not have a copy, lo and behold the original key must have been forgotten in the door during the build as I found it in a pile of dust in door interior  when replacing the strut ..I was pretty happy about that, one last thing that would have needed to been replaced! I.e lock cylinders

Next up: headliner repair, front latch repair and last but not least , washer fluid pump attention.

See picture for outcome of strut replacements!
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Re: 1986 Countach Replica
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2017, 12:20:39 AM »
1984-1990 Dodge Caravan rear hatch lift (according to the number on the gas strut #4775).  You should be able to pick up this part at most auto parts stores.  I don't know if the end is removable or not.  You may have to take the lower end apart from the vehicle.

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Re: 1986 Countach Replica
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2017, 09:32:10 PM »
Fellas..

Success! I was able to get the door card removed today and 01 you were correct, removing the speaker was key. I have been able to detach one end of strut from door frame and have located torque headed bolt head just above the wheel well in which connects the other end to frame, there was an access point in interior wheel well although a tight space, will need to get the ratchet and extension out tomorrow to reattempt loosening of this end.

However it appears as though the strut end that remains attached (stroke end) is threaded into the end piece that is bolted to frame, would it be wiser to simply unscrew strut from end connection than to disassemble connection to frame? I have taken pictures (attached)...possibly these will help to illustrate what I am attempting to explain.

Last but not least...any idea where I can locate a strut with part number as identified by the photo?

Cheers,
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