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Title: engine tranny options
Post by: satak44 on October 23, 2013, 10:45:15 PM
I have a custom tube chassis... what do you guys recommend...it would be great to be able to simply purchase a donor car and utilize engine tranny ecu harness....from that car.

Suggestions please
Title: Re: engine tranny options
Post by: aeauto on October 23, 2013, 11:17:23 PM
Any front wheel drive engine/transmission combination could be used.  If you use the engine and transmission from the same car the ECU should work too.  Most front wheel drives are transverse as are the Fiero and MR2.  If you want longitudinal you could look at the Chrysler Concorde and other models with that same drivetrain.  Another, more expensive, option would be the Audi.  They are also longitudinal but you will have to find one that is front wheel drive only.  If you go longitudinal with a manual shift transmission you won't have to worry about the ECU operating the transmission and you can use any engine you want that you can adapt to the transmission.  I make adapters for a wide variety of engines to the Audi and Porsche transmissions.
Title: Re: engine tranny options
Post by: SchulzeA on October 24, 2013, 04:28:57 AM
You can use a corvette or camaro engine/trans with a v-drive setup. But It's going to be a lot more work to get set up right
Title: Re: engine tranny options
Post by: Tallon on October 24, 2013, 06:37:00 AM
If not going with an mr2 or fiero then not sure what car will have everything you need but buy a bmw 750iL for a v12 cheap!
not to say that the whole project will be cheap I don't know, requires fwd audi trans
Title: Re: engine tranny options
Post by: 01Lambiero on October 24, 2013, 09:32:04 AM
How deep are your pockets?
Title: Re: engine tranny options
Post by: satak44 on October 24, 2013, 09:44:11 AM
LOL   the goal is to have alligator arms.

Id like to be in the 3000 range i think
Title: Re: engine tranny options
Post by: AdrianBurton on October 24, 2013, 09:54:03 AM
What are you looking to do?
build a race car, a cruiser, a sat night bruiser?

what is your budget?

Condition of the chassis?  Can it handle 1000hp or 200hp

I am using the BMW 12, audi trans and designed and made my own adapter.
Title: Re: engine tranny options
Post by: aeauto on October 24, 2013, 09:56:59 AM
If you only have $3000 for the drivetrain you will need to be looking at a transverse FWD setup.  The transmission alone will cost that much to go longitudinal.  Then you have to add the engine and adapter.
Title: Re: engine tranny options
Post by: satak44 on October 24, 2013, 09:58:14 AM
what do you recommend for FWD.  Someone recommended a supercharged GM 3.8
Title: Re: engine tranny options
Post by: aeauto on October 24, 2013, 10:04:18 AM
That would be a good choice.  I prefer the longitudinal installation for several reasons but it will cost more.
Title: Re: engine tranny options
Post by: eddie on October 24, 2013, 11:29:53 AM
Hold on
I would first check the condition of chassis  then suspnsion/ steering stuff brakes etc
Then get the engine / tranny of yor choice etc. this is not a couple months project even if is half build if you rush it will not look likw a clone and people will laughing at it and you going to get the car stolen and collect from insurance. But you could be charged woth fraud
So take it easy and think twice before you do anything   
Title: Re: engine tranny options
Post by: satak44 on October 24, 2013, 12:16:06 PM
What transmission can I use?    Would the matching one work from the gran prix?
Title: Re: engine tranny options
Post by: eddie on October 24, 2013, 01:20:55 PM
Only automatic from G/P. And engine sits trasverse.
Title: Re: engine tranny options
Post by: aeauto on October 24, 2013, 02:39:56 PM
I think that there is a manual (F40?) from one of the other front wheel drive cars that will bolt up to the 3800.  Some of the Fiero guys should know about that.
Title: Re: engine tranny options
Post by: notnilc20 on October 24, 2013, 02:52:56 PM
Hold on
I would first check the condition of chassis  then suspnsion/ steering stuff brakes etc
Then get the engine / tranny of yor choice etc. this is not a couple months project even if is half build if you rush it will not look likw a clone and people will laughing at it and you going to get the car stolen and collect from insurance. But you could be charged woth fraud
So take it easy and think twice before you do anything   
In the voice of Keanu Reeves..... "Whoah".
Title: Re: engine tranny options
Post by: satak44 on October 24, 2013, 05:52:19 PM
Not sure what happened either
Title: Re: engine tranny options
Post by: Tusabes on October 24, 2013, 08:21:24 PM
Agreed on supercharged 3800

Take the whole engine transmission and ecu and transplant it
Title: Re: engine tranny options
Post by: satak44 on October 25, 2013, 01:25:00 AM
What donor car can I purchase with the 3800 and a manual transmission?  Do the newer 3800 engines for this set up.
Title: Re: engine tranny options
Post by: BigPines on October 25, 2013, 01:46:37 AM
Why not a 5.3 LS4 setup (http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=362.0) from an '05 - '08 Pontiac Grand Prix GPX? Around 20 average MPG, 303 HP stock and over 500 HP available if you want to add a turbo later. The 3800 can't compare can it? Or does the $3K budget requirement overrule?

Tony Paul put one of these in his Diablo and is happy with it. I am considering it myself.
Title: Re: engine tranny options
Post by: dratts on October 25, 2013, 08:16:29 AM
It might cost a bit more.  I had mine installed by Fieroking.  He will sell mounts and wiring harnesses though if you want to do it yourself and that would bring down the cost to close to the 3800.  Although I turboed mine it's not necessary.  303 hp is way more than adequate.  My preference reasons were aluminum instead of iron and 8 cylinders instead of 6.  Everyone has their own preferences though and I think the 3800 would be a good choice too.
Why not a 5.3 LS4 setup ([url]http://lamboclone.com/index.php?topic=362.0[/url]) from an '05 - '08 Pontiac Grand Prix GPX? Around 20 average MPG, 303 HP stock and over 500 HP available if you want to add a turbo later. The 3800 can't compare can it? Or does the $3K budget requirement overrule?

Tony Paul put one of these in his Diablo and is happy with it. I am considering it myself.
Title: Re: engine tranny options
Post by: Linlor on December 02, 2013, 02:23:32 PM
Not sure if you have made a call on this yet but if you are interested, a fellow over on Pennock's transplanted a Chrysler 300 V6 and trans into a Fiero.  The engine/trans are auto and mounted longitudinally in the front of the 300.  I think the engine is a 3900 and he went through splicing everything into the Fiero wiring etc. but if you have a custom tube chassis, you wouldn't need to go through all that.

Another option if you are OK with auto.

Cheers
Don