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For Sale / Wanted => Cars & Projects For Sale => Topic started by: Lambolegend on August 16, 2019, 08:17:21 AM
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Looking for a lambo replica in Canada. preferably Diablo or newer style.
Went to see the one in Mississauga, it was nice but automatic. Not sure if it was worth the money.
I'm handy but more of a backyard mechanic so I can do some things but looking more for a complete or almost complete build.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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How would you rate the yellow roadster you saw on a scale of 1 to 10?
It was a high quality build originally from what I have heard. That was 11 years ago though. Curious how well it has been maintained over the years.
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I believe it was a quality build. I drove it in the parking lot of the mall and it seemed nice. The steering was stiff which concerned me a little but I imagine cars back then are a little stiff. There was a good paint chip inside the driver door which I believe is from people who don't know how to close lambo doors properly. There was a few stress cracks in the body but I think that has to do with age. The interior was my biggest concern. The vinyl on centre console and around glove box was all peeling, sound system didn't work. Couldn't open a vent. I think the car has an air ride suspension but we couldn't get it to work. It was a tight fit, if you are 6 feet or over forget about it. But I imagine that's with all Diablos? Plus all the stuff he mentioned that weren't working. It's all repairable stuff, but at that price I hesitated. If it were a manual transmission I probably would have put in an offer.
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Thanks for the reply. Sounds like it is showing it's age which is probably why it hasn't sold. If it needs an interior overhaul, repaint and numerous maintenance repairs it definitely isn't a $43,000 car currently. Like you said, for a better price it would be a nice refresh project.
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Why are you dissing a replica that you haven't even seen?
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Why are you dissing a replica that you haven't even seen?
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Not sure who you are directing this to? I can assure you that I meant no disrespect in my description. My second sentence is that I drove the car. I had spent at least an hour maybe more looking over that car. I haven't completely given up on the car. Since it is so difficult to get a replica or clone in Canada, I am keeping an eye on it and if the price drops a little a may go pick it up.
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I believe he was referring to me but neither of dissed the car. We have both acknowledged this was a quality build. The original builder was named Joe I believe and he is a friend of Eddie on the forum here. Both Eddie and Jim Dinner know the car and confirmed to me when the car was for sale last year it was well built.
That was 11 years ago though which is stated by the current owner in his ad along with a list of things the car needs repaired. Lambolegend has viewed the car and pointed out other issues he observed that weren't mentioned in the ad. Combine all these things together and I think most people would agree you have a car that is simply showing it's age. That's not a diss, just stating facts. After 11 years a refresh of some items is to be expected to bring it back to just built condition.
It was listed for $55,000 last year for a while then reduced to $50,000. It was listed again this year for $50,000 and now it's been reduced to $43,000 for a while. It appears the market thinks that the price is still a bit too high for it's current condition or else it would have been snapped up a long time ago. I was surprised myself it was still listed.I live 2000 km away and was debating on flying to see it which is why I asked about it in the first place.
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Ooops! I lost track as to who was looking for a replica. You didn't mention the engine / trans package. Longitude or transverse? Power steering? Custom chassis?
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good morning, that Yellow Roadster was build to very high quality,Joe spend in to 92K CAN $ excluding his labor time, when finished he put on maybe 1500KM (1K miles), most of the time car was garaged in his work shop .when the man bought it car had small tire leak,He replace B/N sets for him Pirelli and he give me the old tires . he is an older gentleman retired and build many cars just to keep him busy and then sells almost for nothing, I said many time to him Joe if I knew you are going to sell your roadster I would wait and not build my and bought yours.
that goes sad, when I sold mine 25th 3 owners had it, recently I asked for picture of interior for some one , I cried the way it was bad and dirty , food and cans all over interior peeling etc. WHY ? because they did not build it don't know what it take to do one!
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couple more pictures. HE just finished 46 flat head Tractor again dump it for less,
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Wow thanks for the feedback Eddie, but now brings up so many more questions. I would love to have a conversation with Joe. Especially since the current owner doesn't seem to know much about the car. Like does it have air suspension to lower or raise the car? Would an engine cover fit on this car to make it look more like a lambo engine? Did all the buttons on the console work at one time? If so what did they do? Currently the power locks and stereo don't work, are they on the same circuit? I'd be willing to put an offer on the car and do what it takes to bring it back to it's glory with a some guidance.
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as far as I know all stuff did worked , re air lift there was some and I think Jim fixed .That I'm not sure. if you are local in Toronto or closed by I can arrange meeting with Joe . location Concord ( hwy 7/ Jane) or I'll ask him if its ok to give you his phone number.the engine cover will not fit
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Well that's great information!
I'm located in Hamilton, so not too far from Toronto. I'd love to speak with him and any more info you could have. When I went to see the car he had binders in the back trunk, but I really didn't look to closely at them. I guess it might be worth going to take another look.
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I'll give you his phone #, but I have ask him first.
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Bet that's a 3800 SC under the engine cover!!!!
I have a 3800 in my NAERC 60 mounted longitudinally and it sits high,
Eddy if I recall you also have a 3800 in your beast. Any pointers to lower the engine so the cover can fit in it comfortably?!!!
CCIE
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Yusha I don’t know maybe lower the engine mounts.
On my 3.8 I lowered different alt and modified cover.
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Back to Joe’s car, I spoke with him he said nothing ton-talk about everything worked and he does not know what that man did to it,
Electrical was done by someone else
Sorry , buy it and you have to play with it what’s wrong, that’s never ending when own Kit car
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Thanks for all responses Eddie,
Just so I'm clear, you have the same car? These cars are NEARC cars?
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I have NAERC on Naerc chassis
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I remember seeing the car at the KitCentral meet up years ago, think you emailed me as well. I think the car was build fine, its just the care and maintenance for these cars is much more than an average modern car. Little things need attention constantly. When someone not mechanically inclined buys the car the little things don't get attention. Think the hiccop with this car is it's an automatic, if it were a manual it would be gone already. So most of us considering it would have to do all those little things on top of a tranny swap.
My car had the same kind of issues when I bought it, it's part of the reason I documented it on the bloghttps://lamborghinicountachreplica.wordpress.com (https://lamborghinicountachreplica.wordpress.com), will give you a sense of what is ahead.....good, bad and ugly.
The big thing is the cars don't come up for sales often. If you have possibly years of patients to wait for "the one", then wait. If looking at the car and fixing it (assuming your mechanically inclined) is just as satisfying as driving then go for it. Drive it a bit, find a local car club that has interested mechanics you can get to know. Source out through them what you'll need help with. ie. an electrical guy, tranny guy etc.... a case of beer and a half day of direction from them will get it done, not quick but you'll learn a bunch yourself and about the car.
You have builders in your area you can get to know as well......like me. Guys like Eddie and others that you'll end up networking with once you have the car and we know you are invested in the hobby.
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Thanks 88.5countach, I still am considering it, yes I am the one that emailed you. I'm just trying to get as much information as possible before diving in. I'd like to go see it again and wish I had a mechanic friend to come with. I am mechanically handy and I'm not seeing a problem with the issues that he has listed that I couldn't attack. It's just the unknown that's scary for that price. I guess. Will make a decision soon.
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Big decision for sure.
Similar to what I was thinking when i bought mine. I had to have the custom transaxle rebuilt 2 years after I got it the Countach and waited 2 years getting it done. In hindsite, would still do it all over again although that's what I was afraid may happen when I bought it. Along with what will others think when they find out how much we paid for "kit car". 888o
On that point good replicas kept up to date and well maintained can appreciate. If you do this to that car I could see you getting a return on the car if you hold on to it for 5-10 years. As the real deals get way out of reach due our generation getting into years where we have expendable funds (kids left home). Many have had there heart set on a real one with the values we recall from 10-15 years ago. The real deals are now out of reach due to this market demand our generation is creating. It's spinning off to the "accurate replica's" values. Something that may help with your decision, I think its a good car done well, just needs some love, not non-hobbyist owner with alternative motives.
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UPDATE: So meeting again with the gentleman in Mississauga, we came to a compromise and he delivered it yesterday!
So many questions now. For example,
Is there a way to open front trunk? it seems like the cable doesn't work.
How do I activate the air suspension?
And so many more.
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Congratulations on your purchase! Looks good in the driveway.
Is the cable seized and not moving when the release handle is pulled? I would remove the handle mechanism and check to see if cable is moving first.
Is the air compressor not powering on when you press the button?
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I have removed the mechanism and pulled the cable, I thought I heard a click but still didn't open. The cable doesn't retract or pull anymore.
I'm not sure what button it is to power on the compressor? I don't hear a compressor turn on at all.
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receiver may be off center , pull the cable and let other person push down and up
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It sounds like the latch mechanism is stuck if the cable will move. As Eddie said the pin may be off center with the receiver enough that it is jamming. Maybe clamp vice grips on the end of cable so you can get a good pull on it while you have someone pushing down or pulling up on bonnet.
For the air lift I would locate the compressor and work back from there. There should be a relay between it and the switch. You could run 2 test wires from a battery direct to the compressor to see if it will power up. If it does you know you likely have a wiring, relay or fuse issue.
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Thanks, I will try those suggestions. Eddie, I understand we aren't too far apart, I would love to meet and pick your brain a little.
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Update: I was able to get the compressor to work, however nothing to raise the car. I assume it's the button on the dash??
Also with the neighbours help we pulled and pulled and played with the front hood with no luck on opening the hood. I'm open to suggestions hopefully one that won't scratch the paint.
Thanks for all the advice.
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lambolegend I'm located in Thornhill, i do not work on my car during week days only weekends after lunch ,way too busy plus doing stuff around the house.
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Lambolegend just had a coffee with Joe, air did worked. there must be some electrical issue, as for the front hood he use VW latch . people who buys turn key kit cars ,thinks as factory build any production car. Kit cars are made of bunch of donor parts and there's always something that has to be looked after. it's an hobby for life
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Of course and I'm ready to do the work, thanks for the input. I was able to get the compressor to run and it sounds like it is filling the tank, but nothing happens when I push the button on dash. So my next step would probably be to check switch. As for the latch I assume based on the picture you sent, the if I can get something in there and pull forward it should release?
This will be a hobby but I'm taking extra time since it's all new. I also guess I open a thread for these questions in a different section.
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I did on my Diablo cut out 3 X 3 hole and sealed and bolted from bottom below the latch.this way, as you have i can jack up front unbolt the plate and release by hand .
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ah on that latch you have to push forward the safety catch ( hook) when does first popped up.I guess you know but anyway I thought I'll mention
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On the Autotrader.ca listing for your car their was a pic of the car on a lift. There looked to be a sheet metal panel possibly bolted under the front bumper to seal off the front area. If it can be removed would you be able to get at the latch much like Eddie has done with his access panel? It would depend if the front of the trunk compartment blocks access to the latch I suppose. Just a thought.
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Yes I will try that tomorrow. I can put it on a lift and check it out.
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SUCCESS! I was able to get front trunk open. The cable looks like it's missing the end that keeps it in the release. I put a bolt on it for now, but is there something that should be crimped on? Thanks again for the help.
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Your local hardware store should have replacement barrels that have a screw in the end to clamp down on the wire.
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1. Find a replacement cable and install it or buy a correct length cable at a bicycle shop with the correct ends already installed.
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SUCCESS! I was able to get front trunk open. The cable looks like it's missing the end that keeps it in the release. I put a bolt on it for now, but is there something that should be crimped on? Thanks again for the help.
Congrad's that's exactly how you you figure it out. It was build some how, so you know you can fix it. That's a big hurdle over come, take your time and you'll solve the air lift as well. Checking the switch is a good start then start to follow those wires, maybe to a bad fuse or bad relay or they got disconnected, maybe shorted but you should find a fault as you trace it. This is way easier said than done and it may mean some disassembly, just document as you go so you'll remember how to put it all back.
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Lambolegend...
I created new ends on a cable when I needed to be able to pull knowing it wouldn't come off.
Get an uninsulated crimp-on wire terminal large enough to fit over the cable that has been folded over 180* (doubled back). Fold the cable back and slip it into the crimp part of the terminal end. Crimp and solder the cable into the terminal end and cut off the loop or forked part of the terminal end leaving just the crimped part.
This has worked well for me.
RT
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Lambolegend...
I created new ends on a cable when I needed to be able to pull knowing it wouldn't come off.
Get an uninsulated crimp-on wire terminal large enough to fit over the cable that has been folded over 180* (doubled back). Fold the cable back and slip it into the crimp part of the terminal end. Crimp and solder the cable into the terminal end and cut off the loop or forked part of the terminal end leaving just the crimped part.
This has worked well for me.
RT
He knows what he speaks of he built this
https://youtu.be/s3TWlxlfxLk (https://youtu.be/s3TWlxlfxLk)
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Great suggestion!
All the attention this car has brought, This pic seems to be the most talked about.
Now driving around. Engine light came on and thought it was my worst fear, Fortunately using scan tool the code came up P1651 $10 GM Fan 1 relay control. The car was runnung hot, but I discovered it was low on antifreeze. Fan 1 seems to be running high speed all the time now. The car starts fine and seems to run good. Any suggestions?
Thanks again for everyone's input, it's all appreciated. I'm really loving this community.
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Like the pic. Would love to see more of your car.
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Like the pic. Would love to see more of your car.
Cute kid, mine are in their early 20s now and after 8 years with the car still suggest going to a show together. They like the attention too.
Have you checked the relay the default may be to kick the high fan on for protection because the low side is out. I don't have a fiero wiring diagram. Have you picked up a Haynes service manual for the fiero it should have it these really help on servicing the car and are only $30.
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That's a great suggestion 88.Countach. I also have I guess a couple of other noobie questions. I took the wheels off to inspect, What would be the torque on the lugnuts? I put 80lbs for now.
Also the engine is 3800 supercharged, Do I just make up a model to look up oil filter? example 2006 Pontiac Grand Prix?
Thanks again.
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That's a great suggestion 88.Countach. I also have I guess a couple of other noobie questions. I took the wheels off to inspect, What would be the torque on the lugnuts? I put 80lbs for now.
Also the engine is 3800 supercharged, Do I just make up a model to look up oil filter? example 2006 Pontiac Grand Prix?
Thanks again.
The service book or online will tell you fiero specs on the torque, 80 could be a little low, I put the lambo's up to 100 it's what it was at. If some are still at the original torque you can use the torque wrench in reverse, start at 70 and if it clicks go to 80, if it doesn't click and the bolt spins you know its between 70 and 80, see if you can nail it down on the next lug. This isn't always the best since if the last guy just impacted them on they could be wrong nut it should be in the ballpark. Best to check them periodically for loosening.
Using the Grand Prix may work fine, see if you can read some part numbers or something off the filter on the car now. Then you should be able to confirm with that filters part number fits the same Grand prix you picked. Sometimes guys have to change the filter to something shorter etc... due to a clearance issue (or a lickedy lube had a slightly different version in stock and they stuck it on) so don't be surprised if its a little different. The seal area and threads should be the same.
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Lambolegend, have you viewed this car in Pickering(previous owner), prior to the Sauga owner? It had bit less issues, safety was done(I couldn't buy it as is,) and the fuel gauge was still working then. Headlights burnt though. Did you check out the silver one that was on autotrader for 35k near Sarnia/Camlachie? It had a passenger wheel gap, and window didn't entirely close. Anyways, you we're spotted on torontocarspotting - facebook, with a few replicas, and near Ancaster I believe. If you would like to sell after a summer or two, around 50k, certified, let me know. It is a very unique ride, turn's a lot of heads. Cheers.
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xcentric,
No I haven't viewed any of the cars you have mentioned. Neither in Pickering. I was able to fix most, if not all the mechanical problems, I believe only electrical issues now. I've looked up on Facebook and yes that was me in Ancaster. I can't tell you amount of attention I have been getting it's almost staggering. I'm sure at least a thousand pictures have been taken as well and that's just the ones I know of, I had no idea about the ones posted of FB.
I would entertain any serious offers. My heart is really with a mercy and I would move on to that challenge.
Thanks for the information
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Here is a Murci project for you Lambolegend. It just needs rear body panels and tail lights.
Oh, and remove the wrap for sure. :LL: Great project for someone for the right price.https://www.copart.com/lot/53167969 (https://www.copart.com/lot/53167969)
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xcentric,
No I haven't viewed any of the cars you have mentioned. Neither in Pickering. I was able to fix most, if not all the mechanical problems, I believe only electrical issues now. I've looked up on Facebook and yes that was me in Ancaster. I can't tell you amount of attention I have been getting it's almost staggering. I'm sure at least a thousand pictures have been taken as well and that's just the ones I know of, I had no idea about the ones posted of FB.
I would entertain any serious offers. My heart is really with a mercy and I would move on to that challenge.
Thanks for the information
Well, the Countach and Diablo, IMO, turn more heads than modern - common exotics.
Any of the attention from females? lol. I had a F355, lot of thumbs up, primarily kids/men only.
There used to be a triangle G Murci replica, but those look fake, like a non stretched Fiero Countach!
Does MTO go by your insurance appraisal tax, or do we jot down a more "desirable" number ? =)
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"Does MTO go by your insurance appraisal tax, or do we jot down a more "desirable" number ? =)"
For my vehicle, MTO went by the purchase receipt. I would imagine since you have to purchase the seller's kit, which gives us information of all the previous owners.
I do realize it will be difficult to get a good murci replica in Canada as it is for any good replicas for that matter. My understanding so far of being able to import one seems quite difficult.
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maybe email me on that murcie car? ronlambo@shaw.ca , Ron , Vancouver
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Guys , any diablo replicas for sale in alberta or anywhere in canada ? very serious about buying one . completed ones only please . Mike271284@gmail.com
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Highjacking to see if there’s any top of the line diablo roadster replica for sale that someone heard of in Canada . Could be a nearly finished project that I would have Ron dolling complete or à completed one .
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Have a complete new, never started NAERC diablo roadster for sale if you are interested