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Build Diaries => Aventador => Topic started by: Neils88 on September 16, 2019, 07:59:06 PM
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Since I'm sure many people here don't follow my build thread on PFF, I figured I should start a build thread here as well. I likely won't put a lot of detail here, but I will try to post pics to keep you all up to date on my progress. The full build thread will remain at PFF: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/134807.html#p0 (http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/134807.html#p0)
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I would like to separate a trim piece that is part of a full panel, and then create the necessary mounting tabs so that it can be reattached after it is painted (it will be black while the rest of the panel will be white). However, I'm worried that the trim piece may experience high wind loads while driving that may result in the new fiberglass on the part delaminating and the trim piece being ripped off.
Does anyone know of the best way to do this?
I've attached a couple pics to show which trim piece I'm referring to.
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Neil,
I think anything you do to try and bond that on as a removable piece will fail over time. This is because it is not held on by much and subject to a lot of wind force.
I would suggest cutting it off and then make a flange to bolt it to the rocker. After the flange is complete, pull a quick mold of the part and flange this way it is all one piece.
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Neil,
I think anything you do to try and bond that on as a removable piece will fail over time. This is because it is not held on by much and subject to a lot of wind force.
I would suggest cutting it off and then make a flange to bolt it to the rocker. After the flange is complete, pull a quick mold of the part and flange this way it is all one piece.
Thanks Glenn. You're probably right. I was hoping there was a quicker/easier solution but I guess I'll buckle down and do it properly.
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you could make a cover piece,similar to the carbon fiber overlay that has some material inside as well as cover the complete outside
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you could make a cover piece,similar to the carbon fiber overlay that has some material inside as well as cover the complete outside
I hadn't thought of that. Though it would likely be as much work as just creating a new part with a built in flange. I'll definitely consider it though!
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I’ve been pondering myself how to do this with all the panels that are supposed to be removable. I’m thinking the flanging molding method is in my near future
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Managed to finish some work in the engine bay. The cross brace/ shock support is actually structural since I removed the Fiero trunk completely. The shocks are just for show however. The real ones are in the stock Fiero location, but aren't visible even with the open 20" rims.
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Just went through your build on the other forum. Very impressive engineering.
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Just went through your build on the other forum. Very impressive engineering.
Thank you Lambobuilder. :)
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Recently, I've been working on the wiper system. By getting this finished I'll be able to finalize the fiberglass around the windshield, which will be a big step forward. Originally I wanted to use the Fiero wiper mechanism and wiper arms. However, the link system (used by most cars, including Fieros) turned out not to be feasible as a result of the tight space. Additionally, the Fiero wiper arms are terrible looking. I decided the best thing was to purchase the oem Aventador wiper arms. I'm also going to use the system from an MGB. This uses a cable driven system, which allows installation in tight spaces. The only modification required was to change the wiper posts from the standard straight spline to the tapered spline used by Lamborghini, Audi, VW, etc. This involved a little bit of machining and welding, but turned out to be relatively simple.
I still need to finish mounting the system, but that should be relatively simple.
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After a year long hiatus, I'm finally back to the car. We moved from Ontario back to Nova Scotia and built our retirement home. Unfortunately, thanks to covid, it took us forever to build the new house... but well worth it! The Aventador stayed in storage in a trailer for the whole time. I finally have a decent size garage... and just ordered a Maxjax M6 two post car lift. Should be here next week.
Ok... back to work... ::bounce
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I looked up the Maxjax to see if it mounted to the ceiling in any way. I think that it lacks in support as it depends solely on that small plate on the bottom and will require a balanced load for sure. Just $.02
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The Maxjax M6 is "portable" 2 post lift (ALI certified). The total lift is 48". The posts are not full height so no, it is not designed to be attached to the ceiling. The posts can be unbolted and rolled away on wheels to make room. The pump is on a cart and hooks up with quick connects. I chatted with someone who has two of them... he loves them and has never had any issues.
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Looks like a great setup with lots of room. Can't wait to see your next steps on the car.
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I just received the new Wilwood Superlite 4 piston calipers. I had them done in Lemans yellow. I still have to order the rotors, hats and the electric parking brake calipers. The front rotors will be 14" and 13" for the rears. I'll be machining the brackets myself. (In case anyone is interested, the entire setup costs about $7k Cdn.... not including the brackets... ouch)
It'll be good to get rid of the stock Fiero rotors lol
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Finally got the lift installed and set up. Melted my first hammer drill on the first hole. Clearly wasn't up for the job. 10 holes, 7/8", 5" deep. Bought a new Milwaukee rotary hammer. It had no problem with the remaining holes.
Now I finally have access to every part of the car!
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Wow! great setup you have there. Looks like you are set up for a wonderful retirement! enjoy ::LAMBO
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Hmmmm.... I never seem to post any updates. Most under- panel work is complete... just getting ready to start the bodywork. Hoping to be painted by this summer.
I took a little time away from the garage (thanks to covid) but was able to start work on the some of the dash/ center console components. I priced the oem Aventador components and many of them were a little too expensive. However, I've managed to get a few oem, combined with some similar Huracan and Audi parts. I am going to put together a setup that looks close, and at a fraction of the price. With a little creativity and some 3d printing I'm hoping that when I'm finished it'll look and function close to oem. Of course I still need to get it all working so I'm just starting the process of decoding each individual component so that they can all communicate.
The light switches and the drive mode buttons all run on a LIN bus. The start button and the center console accessory button panel (power windows, hazard, esc, lift etc) are all basically hard wired (separate pins per function), the MMI uses RS232, and the climate control uses LIN bus and CANbus.
The LIN bus was fun to crack without access to running vehicles. I have the Aventador drive mode switches completely decoded (buttons plus leds). The Huracan headlight switches annoyingly use the same LIN bus address as the Aventador drive mode switches, so they'll have to run on separate buses. Next up will climate control.... that should be fun.
And no... the Audi forum guys were no help for anything.
Finding the LIN bus addresses is easy enough (only 60 possible).... but it is really tough to figure out the control codes. Audi helped create the standard for the LIN bus, but they don't bother following it themselves. I literally had to start pumping random codes to the switches until something happened and I could then narrow it all down. I almost fell off my seat the first time the drive mode switches lit up.
Once I have everything decoded, I'll try to put together an info sheet with all addresses and codes if there is anyone else wanting to go this route.
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Thought I'd post some updates just so you know I'm still here working on the car. After about 8 years of work on the car, I'm finally getting ready for doing the bodywork/ painting. I decided to build an enclosure to keep the dust and paint in.... and the wife's complaining out. It has air inlet and outlet filters and several box fans for air flow (with outlet ducts running outside). It took me a few hours to hang the plastic. After the bodywork is complete I'll change the plastic sheeting so there won't be any dust carryover for the final painting. I'm not a great painter/ body work guy.... but hopeful I'll improve as I go. Because of the mix of materials (fiberglass, smc, plastic, metal) I'll be starting with an epoxy sealer over everything before I get into the final bodywork.
Of course, due to health, I only can work a few hours at a time in garage. Of course I use the couch time effectively. I use the time to do any programming, electronics, 3d part design, fend off wife's complaints and research.
I've got the dash now mostly finished. Just needs a little more programming (specifically the 2 little side screens) and then some final fitting of the pieces. Eventually it will also get leather wrapped.
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Dash is really impressive! I'm no painting expert either but have picked up a few tips along the way. I documented my process on the Diablo. May be something useful, or not.... :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADDkudjD1So&list=PLaPE0IsfT25dlJhh9RsWSR7Z7fHS6oBLg&index=7&pp=gAQBiAQB (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADDkudjD1So&list=PLaPE0IsfT25dlJhh9RsWSR7Z7fHS6oBLg&index=7&pp=gAQBiAQB)
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Dash cluster looks great
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You'll be surprised how much motivation it gives you when you first see the car in one primer color! Keep going! Cars looking great.
Just a little tip, when body working over those fiberglass patches you did, make sure you use a poly honey or poly resin to make your filler more viscous. This will help fill in the small micro pinholes from the glass process. You can even brush it on.
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It's been a busy summer, so I haven't spent as much time on the car as I would have liked. I did manage to prep the car and get it covered with an epoxy sealer. I can actually (finally) say I've started the bodywork.
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Now the fun begins.
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The bodywork is slowly progressing. At the same time, when I'm not sanding, I've been working on the interior components. I now have a "first draft" for the center console. It uses some oem Lamborghini parts (Aventador and Huracan) and Audi parts strung together using some 3d printed trim to simulate the full Aventador console. This is all topped off using a generic Android entertainment system (navigation, radio, phone, back up camera, etc).
I still have a bit more "hacking" to go so that I can make everything fully functional and appear to work as intended. I've also ordered some different color filaments for the 3d printer. I'm hoping that I can make the trim pieces closer match the oem parts.
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Spectacular work as always. Appreciate the updates.
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Thanks Dale. I find I have to put in a lot of extra effort to try to keep up with the high quality work of you and the others here!!
I did use some (ok... lots) poetic license on my design. For instance, I couldn't bring myself to use a 7" screen like the oem one... went with a 9" display since I thought it looked better. Also, I took a chance with the Huracan switches. They are all the correct switches, just with an updated look.... and they were much cheaper than the Aventador switches for some reason. I also have the matching light switch unit so most people won't notice. My display can start up with the Lamborghini logo. It also has a CanBUS input and is supposed to display oem climate control information. Haven't tried it yet, but that would be a bonus. I'm still working on mapping the MMI buttons and dials, but it should work well to control the display (which is also a touch screen so I'll have to figure out some bidirectional control).
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love the console coming along nicely!
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Great work Neil, your car is coming along nicely. I like the center controls and panel you made.
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The bodywork continues... To me, this is the least fun part of the build. But it is progressing. I have a few low spots to correct and some gaps to tidy up, then I'll give it another epoxy sealer coat and a number of polyester primer coats. Then back to the endless block sanding...
I also reworked the nose emblem indent. Much happier with it now.
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This is the tedious part that everyone sees when it's finished. If only they knew of all the effort that was involved in everything under the skin. Great job.
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Looking at this brings back some painful memories for me, all the aligning of panels and making gaps consistent, filling glassing sanding and priming, and then doing it again and again 'til its right LOL.
People who have never built one of these could never imagine all the work that goes into what most think are the simplest things.