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Re: OEM murci chassis
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2013, 11:55:03 AM »
I see ok thank you. I'll do some research about that test

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Re: OEM murci chassis
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2013, 11:16:28 AM »
Maybe the best thing to do would be measure the hardness of the metal with a Rockwell test or something similar.
Just check the hardness of the metal in an undamaged section and compare it to where the fire was.

Years ago I restored a '69 Superbee that had been in a small brush fire and the front drivers side got cooked but everything including the sub frame and sheer panel were OK. Just the fender needed replaced.

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Re: OEM murci chassis
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2013, 12:33:58 PM »
Ok thanks I might start on another car then before working on this car for months and then findig out the shell is distorted. Id rather not take the risk.Thank you for the comments and advice.

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Re: OEM murci chassis
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2013, 12:26:53 PM »
Wait a few years and purchase an OEM Murcie used.   Fewer headaches.

Best advice I've heard yet!   8)

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Re: OEM murci chassis
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2013, 12:25:40 PM »
Ok thanks guys. Will the fire make the metal weak?

Anytime there is a fire, there is a risk of the temper being knocked out of the metal and it becoming to soft.  If I was in the same position and starting with a OEM frame that had a fire, I would start by taking it to a frame shop and having it checked out for straightness (what caused the fire, a wreck?) and any softening or distortion of the metal.  This would also be a decision point for selecting a smaller and lighter weight engine that produced 400HP or less and wasn't as much strain on the car overall.

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Re: OEM murci chassis
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2013, 12:18:40 PM »
I've heard that a Audi A6 drive train will pretty much bolt up to a Murci frame and axles with only minor mods to the frame and engine / transmission mounts.  The newer 3.0 V6 is rated at 300HP which could easily be bumped up into the 350HP - 400HP range which some massaging. 

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Re: OEM murci chassis
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2013, 11:41:12 AM »
Ok thanks guys. Will the fire make the metal weak?

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Re: OEM murci chassis
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2013, 11:28:03 AM »
Like Jim said ,wait and buy one later
Maybe you should ask that question on Lamborghini forum not in kitcar forum
They know better , such as in long run will it give problems since fire damage.

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Re: OEM murci chassis
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2013, 11:11:24 AM »
Ok thanks guys. I have the chassis but it is in poor condition. The car suffered an engine fire. The damage was not too extensive though. But the car has now been stripped back and painted in primer. I can get all the parts for the car and with OEM engine will run me approx 70-80k. Do you guys think its worth it or should I just buy one later.?

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Re: OEM murci chassis
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2013, 10:51:37 AM »
Wait a few years and purchase an OEM Murcie used.   Fewer headaches.
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Re: OEM murci chassis
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2013, 08:24:11 AM »
Hi guys. I wasn't sure where to put this but I wanted some advice. I have an OEM Lambo murci chassis. It is going to cost me 30-35k to drop the original engine in. I was thinking g of going ls2 twin turbo with a stroker kit. And Porsche transaxle. I could probably do this for around 15k I think. Any ideas guys? Which way would u go?

You say you have the chassis.  Is it just the chassis or do you have the entire car that needs a new engine?
If you have the entire car that needs a new engine, what you do would depend on how nice the condition is.  If it is really nice, replacing the original engine, or rebuilding the original engine would seem to be the right thing to do.  Anything less than nice leaves the decision up to you.  Non-original makes it a custom build with a more difficult resale if and when you sell.

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Re: OEM murci chassis
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2013, 06:36:31 AM »
a solid g50 transmissions is going to run you AT LEAST $6500 used and 12k new. Add that to the cost of the LS plus all supporting mods for it, your at another $7500 for it to be done RIGHT. Spend the extra and go the OEM route. Lambo chassis with lambo drivetrain=much more monies for you. Only a person building a replica would want to buy that chassis, and not even close to what you would have in it. Thats my educated (I am an auto tech and built many non kit car cars) opinion. :D Again, it is my opinion, o no need to flame . :D

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Re: OEM murci chassis
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2013, 05:28:26 AM »
The v12 would be awesome but don't forget to include all the accessories to make it work. Computers, wire harness, sensors, transmission, front differential, axles ect ect.
A LS2 may not sell for as much but you won't have as much $$$ into the project. A stroked twin turbo ls2 will make about 800-900hp!

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Re: OEM murci chassis
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2013, 03:15:24 AM »
Yes that would be nice! What do you guys think of the resale value? Better to put v12? Will the lsx range fit easily? Looks like the v12 is much bigger but sits lower in the engine bay is that correct? V12 would be easier to put in too...plug and play

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Re: OEM murci chassis
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2013, 01:48:25 AM »
I think a super charged ZR1 or ZL1 matted  to a Porsche trans work be awesome ::thumbup.
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