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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #52 on: February 13, 2017, 04:52:43 PM »
The 1100, 2100, and 3100 are electronic and what was quoted. The 1000, 2000, and 3000 are cable. That electronic controller adds $200. Parts are the entire Hurricane System but they make a special one for me that has a hoses and fittings package more suited for a mid-engine configuration. You want the 1100 for that application.

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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #51 on: February 13, 2017, 04:01:51 PM »
SM,
   That compressor is a couple of hundred dollar part that comes with the complete system for $1,250. You can buy all of the parts individually, without the compressor, but that is probably going to be over $1,250 and you still do not have the system tailored to a mid-engine car.

Can you provide a list of the parts included for the 1250$? Would also like the electronic version & billet slide control #45-0114B.  Also I'm not sure which would be best for the ferio the series 1100 2100 0r 3100. Thks 76!!

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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #50 on: February 13, 2017, 03:48:55 PM »
SM,
   That compressor is a couple of hundred dollar part that comes with the complete system for $1,250. You can buy all of the parts individually, without the compressor, but that is probably going to be over $1,250 and you still do not have the system tailored to a mid-engine car.

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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #49 on: February 13, 2017, 03:28:35 PM »
I called old Air
They state the Hurricane system requires the use of a fix displacement compressor. They also recommend a parallel condenser.

The Grand Prix Gtp has a variable compressor, which could be made to work with the fiero system... or so I have been told.


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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #48 on: February 13, 2017, 03:10:50 PM »
Let me comment a little further so not to confuse anyone, some of the old ac compressors could handle R12 and R134 and some can't. If you put R134 in a compressor that it isn't meant for it will burn it up. Just check and see if your compressor is compatible with both before doing the change over.
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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #47 on: February 13, 2017, 02:47:31 PM »
I'm no certified mechanic, but when I changed my Fiero over from R12 to R134 all I did was drained the old freon installed the new fittings for R134, then oiled and refilled it with R134. No cleaning or modifying of the old compressor, just drain and refilled with new and drove it almost 5 years no problems. Agian I am not a certified mechanic so what worked for me may not be right but it worked, make sure to check with an actual mechanic before doing this as not doing it the right way could end up ruining the compressor.

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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #46 on: February 13, 2017, 02:36:12 PM »
Exactly right Sisqocracker. The Freon changeover was late 80's-early90's, there is not a firm date for all models. You can drain, clean, and modify an old compressor to work with the new Freon but it is more trouble than it is worth, and you still have an old compressor.

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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #45 on: February 13, 2017, 10:46:17 AM »
HA HA!  Good one 76!  My 95TA was a "new" type, so yeah should be good.  I'm sure 76 would say (y/n) if he knew the year you were talking about.  I reckon ya meant newer GP instead of old 80's an older GP.   ::headbang

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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #44 on: February 12, 2017, 08:47:25 PM »
I started to say yes if it was a new Pontiac, but then I thought about it again, where did you find a new Pontiac?

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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #43 on: February 12, 2017, 08:20:34 PM »
I sell Old Air systems modified for the special line requirements of a mid-engine car, and with your choice of compressor mounting bracket, $1,250.

does the old air system work with a new Pontiac Gran Prix GTP ac compressor?  thks!

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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #42 on: February 12, 2017, 01:07:55 PM »
Flux Capacitors may have gone out but J.C. Whitney still has them, along with their atom smasher distributors and vortex inducing hood ornaments, all of which greatly improve gas mileage. I am not sure of the year it happened, but the type of Freon used in automotive AC units was changed and the old stuff like a Fiero is not compatible. I sell Old Air systems modified for the special line requirements of a mid-engine car, and with your choice of compressor mounting bracket, $1,250.   

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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #41 on: February 12, 2017, 12:33:51 PM »
Guys, guys, when Zingus43 was giving me my annual physical last week, I perused the same question to him.  He said that flux capacitors went out with the flip phone.  It has been replaced with the X-97b zeon smasher.  If you don't believe me, he gave me the co-ordinates of the black hole that will prove it to you.

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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #40 on: February 12, 2017, 11:54:44 AM »
SM one thing, is 170 Amp a little over kill??  my BMW has 65 modules and use 140 , and some beemers new one use water cooled 150. just saying.
would you after you  relocate your Alternator post picture please ? love see how's mounted .
 take care ,good work.

lol, could be :)  but the flux capacitor requires a lot of power!

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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2017, 11:31:55 AM »
 SM one thing, is 170 Amp a little over kill??  my BMW has 65 modules and use 140 , and some beemers new one use water cooled 150. just saying.
would you after you  relocate your Alternator post picture please ? love see how's mounted .
 take care ,good work. 

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Re: G28 - Simple Mans, Simple REDO of an G28 LP640
« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2017, 11:26:40 AM »
SM
 Charley said it will not work with either unit due to diff freon.
 I paid like 1400$ complete pkg incl. extra long pressure hose and 45* fittings. and ac condenser

Thank you, good information to know!!